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InebriaveritSaepe
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Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it.
#23595447 - 08/30/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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saythatagain



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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: InebriaveritSaepe]
#23595508 - 08/30/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is so fucking sick. That petition is pathetic but it's a start. I'd like to organize a protest. I'm seriously fucking ready to head down to the DEA offides and set myself on fire.
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jimmyBbuffet
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: saythatagain]
#23595568 - 08/30/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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saythatagain said: This is so fucking sick. That petition is pathetic but it's a start. I'd like to organize a protest. I'm seriously fucking ready to head down to the DEA offides and set myself on fire.
They would jusy say you were high and push their cause.
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shroomizzy
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: jimmyBbuffet]
#23595679 - 08/30/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Right to schedule I. despite anything... schedule I... Immediately. Hardest schedule of em all.... this enrages me. Like wow. The rants....
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ferrel_human
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Registered: 06/26/09
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: shroomizzy]
#23596015 - 08/31/16 12:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its gonna happen. No way to stop it. Another way to control the masses.
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impaired420
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: ferrel_human]
#23597182 - 08/31/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stock up now folks.
OBVIOUSLY a power play by big pharma to ensure their control on the opioid trade. Why let people self medicate with a plant when we can shove percocet down their throat.
This is fucking sickening.
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ferrel_human
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: impaired420]
#23597184 - 08/31/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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impaired420 said: Stock up now folks.
OBVIOUSLY a power play by big pharma to ensure their control on the opioid trade. Why let people self medicate with a plant when we can shove percocet down their throat.
This is fucking sickening.
The government doesnt run the government, big corporations run thw governmwnt.
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myceliups
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: ferrel_human]
#23597731 - 08/31/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Signed and shared with friends and family... I was searching for viable seed and cuttings but it looks like the world is almost out lol.
War on nature is absurd
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kactus.brand.g
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: myceliups]
#23597815 - 08/31/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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If i would have known all this,I would have strived harder to keep mine alive
Now,I gotta find a way to acquire another
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iwusthewalrus
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: kactus.brand.g]
#23597857 - 08/31/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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HA!! That means kratom will be more illegal than ketamine.
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Barracho
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: iwusthewalrus]
#23598001 - 08/31/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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How have laws ever stopped anyone from doing or getting what they want? I'd be willing to bet that most members from the US on this site are breaking a law.
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impaired420
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: Barracho]
#23598292 - 08/31/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm on 9grams of kratom right now FUCK THE DEA. All they want to do is get you addicted to their shit. Then when society deems you have a problem with that shit they put you on MORE or ANOTHER TYPE of THEIR shit.
"Don't you dare eat that plant. Take this percocet instead."
Do they even realize how detrimental this would be to thousands of people who use this plant as an alternative pain reliever as apposed to destroying their livers with NSIADs or getting addicted to fucking pharms for life.
Signed the petition,not very optimistic about it though... "We the people".....
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Peyote Road
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: impaired420]
#23598428 - 08/31/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am really curious to see what kind of black market there will be for kratom after this ban. I bet it will be available on darknet and extracts will become more popular as they are easier to smuggle. But I dont see kratom being profitable enough to become a street drug you can buy off a dealer. It's too bulky to smuggle, difficult to get into the country and not expensive or popular enough to make it worth the risk.
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MescalusMan
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: Peyote Road]
#23598607 - 08/31/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn!  This makes my blood boil! When will the drug enforcement assholes fuckin learn that prohibition never works?! I signed the online petition and I'm quite glad to see that others have as well. What's next? Chamomile tea?
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saythatagain



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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: MescalusMan]
#23598847 - 08/31/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I bet it will become nigh impossible to find outside of circles of growers like we have here. It's not powerful enough to lead to any black market trading.
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ferrel_human
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Registered: 06/26/09
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: Barracho]
#23598999 - 08/31/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Barracho said: How have laws ever stopped anyone from doing or getting what they want? I'd be willing to bet that most members from the US on this site are breaking a law.
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impaired420
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: saythatagain]
#23599001 - 08/31/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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saythatagain said: I bet it will become nigh impossible to find outside of circles of growers like we have here. It's not powerful enough to lead to any black market trading.
This exactly I don't understand this shit is like weaker than codiene and codiene is OTC is some countries...
Our federal government has to go. All they do is impede on our rights, rights as citizens and rights as sovergn people. It should be my choice what plant I want to pick and consume.
Like what's next they'll ban melatonin because you can vape it or take it with an MAOi and trip on it? Or ban chamomile and kava and Valerian because they act on GABA receptors?
Smh...
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ferrel_human
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: impaired420]
#23599011 - 08/31/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Actually in europe, melatonin eeds a prescription. Goes to show you europe the more liberal minded friend of america is right more often than.
I read somewhere that chemicals in beauty products, europe has ban something like 1600 of them because they cause cancer and all types of shit and the united states has only banned 11. Which means money talks. Without money there is no divided states of embarassment.
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Spanishfly
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: ferrel_human]
#23599903 - 09/01/16 03:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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No point my signing a petition referring to another country´s laws - but very good luck to you anyway.
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impaired420
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Re: Kratom to be placed in schedule 1. Petition to stop it. [Re: ferrel_human]
#23600347 - 09/01/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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ferrel_human said: Actually in europe, melatonin eeds a prescription. Goes to show you europe the more liberal minded friend of america is right more often than.
I read somewhere that chemicals in beauty products, europe has ban something like 1600 of them because they cause cancer and all types of shit and the united states has only banned 11. Which means money talks. Without money there is no divided states of embarassment.
Europe also prescribes 5-htp for depression...
You're right tho Ferrel... Money talks it's so very obvious. Why stop cancer when we sell a medicine for $1200 a session that kills %97 of people anyway...
It's sick as fuck. The federal govt wants us all sick and dependent upon them for everything from food to water to medicine.
They make money off all of it.
Same shit happened with cannabis. .that was the tcase that set the ground work for all of this bullshit. Banning plants...hey you can get high on oxygen too... Let's ban that next since we wanna ban fucking plants.
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