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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: ChameleonTruffle]
    #23594022 - 08/30/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

your country is filled old abused cretins that love getting smacked around by old farts in robes. to be fair, so is most of the world.

by the way, senseless bans make the world turn round.

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: ChameleonTruffle]
    #23594027 - 08/30/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I know it's so inert and so rare outside of some internet circles it is just an obscene waste of resources when it comes down to it, but especially bad because it is so beneficial to me at this time in my life.

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: moonrockmushy] * 6
    #23594038 - 08/30/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Did anyone read this PDF file OP posted? The gov'ts rationale for scheduling shows that there were 16 reported deaths in 4 years and most were mixing it with other drugs like alcohol, benzo's, etc.

Holy fuck...there are 15 OD deaths a day in Baltimore for heroin alone...yet they have the audacity to ban this chemical that helps addicts get off of heroin? Our gov't is fucked...way too much attention on matters that should be left alone.

Also, it mentions that they have already approved tests that can detect it's main chems in blood and urine...So, you can't get over on PO's. This is just another bs smoke and mirrors deal to make something potentially very good and safe to look evil.
I used kratom to help beat Norco withdrawal symptoms after an extended period on them for a bad hip. I haven't taken any in years but I can sure see it's positive value.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Thayendanegea] * 1
    #23594052 - 08/30/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It's probable that opiate ODs will increase in general with kratom being made illegal.

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23594054 - 08/30/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

at this point, people deserve to start getting actions taken against them. i mean serious actions. well. i mean, that point has already arrived awhile ago, but...more so, it should be done, now.

these people are not really good at making decisions, they should be removed from control, or if they won't budge, then shot.

none of this is about  sense and reason, this is about making everyone bend and play by rules that gets them fucked in the ass.

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23594145 - 08/30/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

moonrockmushy said:
Think it is safe to say it wouldn't grow very far from the equator, and since it is a tree it would probably take years to see any decent yields.  Other than that I don't think it is particularly hard.



Look at these mounds of powdered krat



Lol, bullshit, that'sjust a fucking mountain from a helicopter.

Bicw try, but my dick ain't that easy to trick.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23594160 - 08/30/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Thayendanegea said:
Did anyone read this PDF file OP posted? The gov'ts rationale for scheduling shows that there were 16 reported deaths in 4 years and most were mixing it with other drugs like alcohol, benzo's, etc.

Holy fuck...there are 15 OD deaths a day in Baltimore for heroin alone...yet they have the audacity to ban this chemical that helps addicts get off of heroin? Our gov't is fucked...way too much attention on matters that should be left alone.

Also, it mentions that they have already approved tests that can detect it's main chems in blood and urine...So, you can't get over on PO's. This is just another bs smoke and mirrors deal to make something potentially very good and safe to look evil.
I used kratom to help beat Norco withdrawal symptoms after an extended period on them for a bad hip. I haven't taken any in years but I can sure see it's positive value.



GODDAMMIT, THIS SHIT IS IN DRUG TESTS NOW? :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

:wtf:<DOESN'T DO JUSTICE, SOMEONE, SUMMON ME A MASSIVE WTF GRAEM PLEASE!!!





Ok, calming down a bit, it's not like this will be part of a standard 5 panel test right? How long could it really be detected for?


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Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23594168 - 08/30/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Thayendanegea said:
Did anyone read this PDF file OP posted? The gov'ts rationale for scheduling shows that there were 16 reported deaths in 4 years and most were mixing it with other drugs like alcohol, benzo's, etc.

Holy fuck...there are 15 OD deaths a day in Baltimore for heroin alone...yet they have the audacity to ban this chemical that helps addicts get off of heroin? Our gov't is fucked...way too much attention on matters that should be left alone.

Also, it mentions that they have already approved tests that can detect it's main chems in blood and urine...So, you can't get over on PO's. This is just another bs smoke and mirrors deal to make something potentially very good and safe to look evil.
I used kratom to help beat Norco withdrawal symptoms after an extended period on them for a bad hip. I haven't taken any in years but I can sure see it's positive value.



That would be terrible if they started doing drug tests for it on probation. Im on paper until January and kratom has been my saving grace.

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: ak47myth]
    #23594222 - 08/30/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hey after reading over that bill a second time, its not for sure being scheduled yet.

Theres a "notice of intent" action on the bill which i believe means it has to go through the courts still to be approved or denied.

Regardless this still worries me. And ill certainly be stocking up.

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: ChameleonTruffle]
    #23594245 - 08/30/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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ChameleonTruffle said:
Stock up, kids. This is shameful as hell. Kratom doesn't even affect the vast majority of users I don't get this stupid countryyyyy




The government has no place trying to interfere with what we put in our body. I couldn't vote when the other drugs we illegalized so I gotta start somewhere.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23594248 - 08/30/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

This is all a conspiracy of the krat barons to sell more krat this month. 

How long does it keep anyway?  What is the oldest kratom anyone has ate?

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23594250 - 08/30/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I've never even tried it. I should stock up on some before I never get the opportunity. Might buy a pound or so.

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23594252 - 08/30/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

moonrockmushy said:
This is all a conspiracy of the krat barons to sell more krat this month. 




It's working. :lol:

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23594256 - 08/30/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

This is horrible news for my friend whom recently developed a heavy IV kratom habit.

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23594265 - 08/30/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

PatrickKn said:
I've never even tried it. I should stock up on some before I never get the opportunity. Might buy a pound or so.




It's not for everyone.

If you miss the opportunity, don't sweat it. You're not missing out on much.

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23594309 - 08/30/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Damn was actually eyeing this to maybe keep me clean in the early stages of my recovery.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: 1234go]
    #23594311 - 08/30/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

At the very least, the shroomery sponsor World Seed Supply is running a Kratom Blowout. 75/kilo, 600 and free shipping for 10kg. Might get 20kg if they'll take 1000.

I hope it doesn't disappear forever, but no drugs really disappear on the interwebs.

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: ChameleonTruffle]
    #23594325 - 08/30/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

ChameleonTruffle said:
Stock up, kids. This is shameful as hell. Kratom doesn't even affect the vast majority of users I don't get this stupid countryyyyy




werd. It did absolutely nothing for me, and we ate quite a bit. made my gf at the time puke :lol:.

why the hell they would schedule something like this is beyond me, but like someone else said it probably has to do with money.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: danielx] * 1
    #23594330 - 08/30/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

...aaaaand another drug with medical benefits bites the dust. :kaneclap:

Good job DEA. You Cunts.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: ManianFH]
    #23594343 - 08/30/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

mick said:
Quote:

ChameleonTruffle said:
Stock up, kids. This is shameful as hell. Kratom doesn't even affect the vast majority of users I don't get this stupid countryyyyy




werd. It did absolutely nothing for me, and we ate quite a bit. made my gf at the time puke :lol:.

why the hell they would schedule something like this is beyond me, but like someone else said it probably has to do with money.




You might have gotten shitty kratom then! Ive been taking it daily for over a year now and still cant stomach more than 5 grams without getting severe vertigo and nausea.

Definitely works also lol


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