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CookieCrumbs
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Adden]
#23599242 - 08/31/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Adden said: Yeah same, at the point where it looks like I'll be going to doctors for my pain meds.
Basically 3 months physical therapy to get muscle relaxers and painful injections, so they can give you a 30 day supply of ten vicodin. I bet 2017 sees a rise in heroin and pill use/abuse while legitimate pain patients won't get dick. They'll just poison your renal system with tylenol/ibuprofen/naproxen, or mess up your head with gabapentin. What a circus.
Yeah legal pain relief is an ass. They say most heroin addiction starts with prescription opiates but neglect to mention all the hoops and bullshit one has to jump and dolly over in the medical world to get legal relief when they can just go and buy it off the street. None of those condescending questions, papers to sign, wraps sheets to fill, tests (often expensive and uncomfortable) A to B to C and back to A and talking to a slew of people including pain management specialists that try to tell you how you should feel.
Why the fuck would you deal with a bunch of snooty white coats that are going to treat you like an addict whether you are or aren't and play games with you for weeks when you're in pain when you can just buy it from some guy you know?
Kratom is going to die out for similar reasons. It's highly unlikely that reward is going to be worth the risk and hassle for smugglers.
Our system truly disgusts me.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Crumist]
#23599287 - 08/31/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Crumist said: I never had much of any luck with Kratom. "toss and wash" sucks balls *blech* and taking 20 capsules isn't much fun either. Was never able to get much of an effect beyond what might be placebo, and I tried a couple different suppliers.
Really sucks for those of y'all who use it.
Can someone with a level head give me an assessment on how likely it is we are looking at kratom being scheduled? I haven't really seen kratom in the news or anything
Why would kratom make the news ? 
Not a good idea to advertise putting a plant on schedule 1 right now when they're slowing eating the marijuana ban. Only people that know about it are people who already have an interest in drugs or deal with chronic pain and bothered to research alternatives or people with serious on going mental anxiety and depression that don't want or don't get relief from prescription shit.
And considering most americans are on prescription drugs and believe that if anything else worked it would be marketed and endorsed by their doctor... Eh. Most people who watch mass media news probably wouldn't know the difference between kratom and poison sumac.
No reason to make the sheeples ask questions now.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23599294 - 08/31/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You goofed my quote a little but I'll forgive ya. My response was to tdubz.
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tdubz said: Yeah same, at the point where it looks like I'll be going to doctors for my pain meds.
Basically 3 months physical therapy to get muscle relaxers and painful injections, so they can give you a 30 day supply of ten vicodin. I bet 2017 sees a rise in heroin and pill use/abuse while legitimate pain patients won't get dick. They'll just poison your renal system with tylenol/ibuprofen/naproxen, or mess up your head with gabapentin. What a circus.
Me personally tho.. I'm all set. It's a shit show and I'm glad I'm out. I'm sorry for everyone else in pain. I know it too well. I just hope you folks have the means to stock up or find a reasonably priced overseas vendor.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Adden]
#23599307 - 08/31/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah my bad. Radomly lost the wifi and it bugged out my attempts to quote. Oiy smartphones can be dumb sometimes.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23599398 - 08/31/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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No worries, CC. 
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Adden]
#23599511 - 08/31/16 11:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I <3 Kratom
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: abltsandwich]
#23599516 - 08/31/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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me too I'm eating like 3 diff kinds right now, I can only get so high though no matter how much I eat there is a threshold and I have never really properly nodded from it.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tripp23] 2
#23599527 - 08/31/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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tripp23 said: I apologize in advance for repeat post but we must win this. Keep fighting!! Edit:. In all honesty.. I wish the mods would sticky this or something..
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Petition against Kratom Schedule one
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/please-do-not-make-kratom-schedule-i-substance
Apparently the Attorney General signs this into law. If possibly we get enough people to message them about the issue, maybe they will decline the opposition.
Attorney General:
https://www.justice.gov/doj/webform/your-message-department-justice
Please donate so we can hire a well connected, experienced attorney in DEA matters, a federal lobbying firm AND a public relations firm.. link below..
https://americankratomassociation.nationbuilder.com/donate

https://m.facebook.com/KratomMarchDC/?tsid=0.8573095026312494&source=typeahead
http://www.kratommarchdc.com
Share it like wildfire!!
Seriously, didn't one of the mods sticky their own anal mxe delusion threads? Idk about anyone else here (ok i do) but i would say this is pretty fucking big!!!
CAN WE GET A FUCKING STICKY?
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#23599531 - 08/31/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Someone pm a mod or 3...
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Edited by musiclover420 (08/31/16 11:18 PM)
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#23599534 - 08/31/16 11:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Agreed I asked asante but no reply.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tdubz]
#23599611 - 08/31/16 11:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Would there still be a demand for kratom if you couldn't get it on the clearnet? Would you buy kratom on the DNM o(especially if it was more pricy than it is already) our would you just spring for other cheaper, more potent opiods?
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Crumist]
#23599676 - 09/01/16 12:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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By the way, there have already been news articles about this. I have seen some on the internet. I just happened upon this knowledge while researching RC's on reddit. I was stunned. Would have never otherwise known!
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23599688 - 09/01/16 01:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was referring more to news about a kratom "epidemic" or hospitalizations. I figured manufacturesd public outrage and fear would precede any action on some niche herb, guess they don't even bother anymore.
I know one thing, getting your hands on these semi legal plants can be a real bitch. I don't see much salvia or kratom on the DNM and on the clear net attention like this can dry up supply and drive up prices.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: danielx]
#23599863 - 09/01/16 03:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Unintended consequence derived from willful ignorance Wake to find the rights you take for granted non-existent The world around you self destructs, centuries of blind trust Combine to form a worm to suck you dry for its own enrichment No consolation; enslaved by thieves and liars No resignation; embrace, adapt, survive
A seemingly deafening roar of silence Preceding a chaos reserved for giants Completely depleting imperial domination Bleeding its greed into a sea of subjugation
Free to be enslaved by the masters of your choice Corrupted republic infiltrated on every front By sycophantic agents of the bloodlines of royal cunts A legacy of squandering in mind numbing subterfuge Liberty inversion to nationwide servitude Conditioning the masses to be ignorant and consume Feeble minded drones taught to choose the path to total doom
Divide and conquer, strength in numbers The typical blueprint to seizing power The rise of a monster, feeding a hunger The violent extermination of evil fucking cowards A chaos reserved!
Your reign of ruin through deception and cold blooded crime Is hereby nullified The flame burns lucid, consuming this house of lies Devouring the bloodlines
Unintended consequence derived from willful ignorance Wake to find the rights you take for granted non-existent The world around you self destructs, centuries of blind trust Combine to form a worm to suck you dry for its own enrichment No consolation; enslaved by thieves and liars No resignation; embrace, adapt, survive
A seemingly deafening roar of silence Preceding a chaos reserved for giants Completely depleting imperial domination Bleeding its greed into a sea of subjugation
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Adden]
#23600268 - 09/01/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Adden said:
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tdubz said: Yeah same, at the point where it looks like I'll be going to doctors for my pain meds.
Basically 3 months physical therapy to get muscle relaxers and painful injections, so they can give you a 30 day supply of ten vicodin. I bet 2017 sees a rise in heroin and pill use/abuse while legitimate pain patients won't get dick. They'll just poison your renal system with tylenol/ibuprofen/naproxen, or mess up your head with gabapentin. What a circus.
whats wrong with gabapentin?
i use it to get through withdrawls.
should i stop?
i love heroin and have little aversion to using it but i'm still bummed about kratom. i actually have a kratom dealer and he seems like the law abiding type so im gonna see if he wants to unload his stockpile before the ban.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Apostle]
#23600328 - 09/01/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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**update**
The march for Kratom will be held on Sept. 13th, and NOT the former Sept. 8th!
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tripp23]
#23600335 - 09/01/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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where's it happening?
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Apostle]
#23600344 - 09/01/16 08:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shit, I wanna go to a kratom march where's it at?
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something super extreme
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tripp23]
#23600350 - 09/01/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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tripp23 said:
The march for Kratom
Fucking lol.
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Now is your chance to finally do something that matters SSE- to finally BE somebody.
You know what you need to do

Again and again until the ban is revoked.
You are the perfect assassin - a man with nothing to live for and nothing to lose can never be stopped.
just joking!!!! Don't do anything illegal!
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