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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: badchad]
    #23598185 - 08/31/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I signed it, surprised to see it double over night, it means a lot of people are concerned and we do deserve some type of response from the white house however petty it may be.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: invitro]
    #23598205 - 08/31/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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invitro said:
How much do you use for pain, can you stock up on it while you can?




Sorry I missed your post last night during my moment of womanly hysteria. ...':lol:


On bad days I can use upwards of 20g. Some days I don't need any. I'd say I averaged 12g. I have a stash that will probably last me a couple more months but since I'll likely be moving soon I can't really stock up as much as I'd like. I am looking into getting some seeds and possibly growing a plant for personal use one day. The unknowns and the unreliable nature of the future still has me rather concerned.


For a little while I was looking into poppy tea as a back up but that seems unreliable as fuck, hard to measure, and if I fuck up I could choke and die on my own vomit. Or just pass out and stop breathing. I'll admit I'm not all that interested in that.

Maybe for emergencies I guess but... I'm looking into safer less "fuck me up scotty" type shit right now.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tdubz]
    #23598234 - 08/31/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Oh yeah I'm happy to see so many people jumping in to oppose this. Even if it doesn't do much good at least I know alot of people understand it is wrong.


To be honest I'd always worried about a stigma of kratom. One reason why I reacted so harshly last night. I've always worried that people just assume I'm making up excuses to get high... Some people have.

I haven't seen or read much support for the bill. But I feel better knowing there is adamant opposition :thumbup:


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23598237 - 08/31/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

AFAI am concerned the legal equivalent is buprenorphine/suboxone.  That shit is hard as hell to stop though.  As far as weak opiates go kratom alkaloids are the miracle drug that people make suboxone out to be.  It has a more concrete cieling dose that actually discourages frequent redosing, and it is 100x easier to withdraw from.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23598736 - 08/31/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Welp, I'm buying one more kilo and then bidding adieu to this plant with which have a love/hate relationship


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: morrowasted]
    #23598816 - 08/31/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah same, at the point where it looks like I'll be going to doctors for my pain meds.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tdubz]
    #23598845 - 08/31/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

And it looks like I will depend on the Dominicans so I am not a yawning sneezing mess of depression.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: morrowasted]
    #23598846 - 08/31/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I am fucking pissed. I signed the petition also. They have no fucking right. This is like watching marijuana be scheduled all over again. I can't believe people are so nonchalant about this. Even if you don't use kratom, these are our fucking right. This is supposed to be 'the land of the free'. The government has no right to tell me I can't use kratom. To make it a fucking FELONY! To lock people up in prison for using it. This is wrong.

We are on a fucking drug forum. Why aren't more of you pissed off? I am incredibly angry. I am bitter.

I'm sick of the DEA playing daddy, telling people they can't have herbal supplements like fucking kratom. This is outrageous.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23598866 - 08/31/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I agree man this thread should be at the top of the forum until they ban it for everyone to see so that people can wake up. This is not a drug for pure recreation, this plant like marijuana has many potential uses for several types of disease.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tdubz]
    #23598925 - 08/31/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah same, at the point where it looks like I'll be going to doctors for my pain meds.




Basically 3 months physical therapy to get muscle relaxers and painful injections, so they can give you a 30 day supply of ten vicodin. I bet 2017 sees a rise in heroin and pill use/abuse while legitimate pain patients won't get dick. They'll just poison your renal system with tylenol/ibuprofen/naproxen, or mess up your head with gabapentin. What a circus.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Adden] * 1
    #23599000 - 08/31/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23599022 - 08/31/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You just started being infuriated?  I'm beyond livid. The war on all the other drugs, the war on humanity? Everything else wasn't enough to get you there?


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23599108 - 08/31/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well this is fucked up. No doubt my home Canada will play copycat with this law in the near future.

I have never tried the stuff and only just ordered 50g yesterday to see what the hype is all about only to read about this a few hours later.

Fuck the drug war and fuck unjust laws.  :feelsbadman:


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Canadian Jesus]
    #23599123 - 08/31/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

OMFG.... this is the worst news I have received all year. FUCK.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: br33zy] * 1
    #23599140 - 08/31/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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OMFG.... this is the worst news I have received all year. FUCK.




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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23599156 - 08/31/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Of course something powerful is identified and must be controlled so they can tax it. Government money machine looking out for its piece of the pie.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23599159 - 08/31/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've spent the past two days scrambling, figuring out how I'm going to help my chronic pain patients, and whether I'll be continuing my business after the 30th.

All I can say is that this really fucking blows, but sadly I can't act like I'm surprised.

On the bright side, business is better than it's ever been from everyone stocking up.  :lol:


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Penelope_Tree]
    #23599179 - 08/31/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I never had much of any luck with Kratom. "toss and wash" sucks balls *blech* and taking
20 capsules isn't much fun either. Was never able to get much of an effect beyond what might
be placebo, and I tried a couple different suppliers.

Really sucks for those of y'all who use it.

Can someone with a level head give me an assessment on
how likely it is we are looking at kratom being scheduled?
I haven't really seen kratom in the news or anything


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Crumist] * 1
    #23599191 - 08/31/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's not just likely, it's going to happen.
The question is whether it will be unscheduled or not.
We can only hope so.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23599201 - 08/31/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I apologize in advance for repeat post but we must win this.  Keep fighting!!  Edit:. In all honesty.. I wish the mods would sticky this or something..

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Petition against Kratom Schedule one

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/please-do-not-make-kratom-schedule-i-substance

Apparently the Attorney General signs this into law.  If possibly we get enough people to message them about the issue, maybe they will decline the opposition.

Attorney General:

https://www.justice.gov/doj/webform/your-message-department-justice

Please donate so we can hire a well connected, experienced attorney in DEA matters, a federal lobbying firm AND a public relations firm.. link below..

https://americankratomassociation.nationbuilder.com/donate




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