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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: morrowasted]
    #23594946 - 08/30/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I do not use kratom to get high.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: morrowasted]
    #23594948 - 08/30/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I agree no one should be thinking "shit well now that this is gone I'll have to turn back to dope"

That's just fuckin stupid.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23594960 - 08/30/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have just started experimenting with Kratom and was literally about to make a post about it when this caught my eye. I just found a vendor with nice prices online so I will definitely be stocking up. Probably going to run up to my local headshop and grab some product as well, even though it's like $25 an oz. But the quality is quite good even though I am new to the Kratom game. I love botany so I will definitely try to hurry up and get some  plants as well.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23594981 - 08/30/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I could rave at everyone who uses it for pure recreation reasons, as that is predominately what it is used for and surely what has caused attention to it.


I didn't want to use kratom because it was so similar to opiates. Instead I suffered for years with chronic pain until I became a very bitter person that dreamed only of suicide. Only when I had a mental break did I give it a chance. And it has given me the most functional life I have ever had for the last 3 years. I hate depending on any drug. But this one was tolerable, both to my body and to my mind and it helped me manage the pain well enough that I could have a life. A decent work life without calling out all the time. A decent social life without cancelling plans all the time.


It's not "just quit" for me. I could be mad at all the people who have recreationally used and abused it like you for helping to throw away the one good light in a deep dark hole of chronic pain... but I won't. I've been sitting here crying for the last hour instead. This is devastating for me. I'm legitimately scared to once again deal with the pain with nothing to really hold it back or control it. More so I'm scared of the person I will become with having to deal with it. Opiates, no opiates, I lose.


Unless I find something else. But in years of research I haven't found anything half as effective or safe as kratom. It's beyond shitty for me man.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23595014 - 08/30/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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ModestMouse said:
I agree no one should be thinking "shit well now that this is gone I'll have to turn back to dope"

That's just fuckin stupid.




I am not a junkie I have never done heroin. It is a different animal for me. I have bad impulse control with certain substances. But I do legitimately need something to manage pain.


Junkies, yeah, find something else to fixate on.
I can't go to cigarettes or weed or whatever to feed my need for an addiction. I managed my kratom well and never let myself get to the point of addiction. I never had withdrawals. From what I've read and what I understand from recreational kratom users I've talked to I also took significantly less than other daily users.


I don't mean anything bad toward recreational uses or people who use it to manage addiction. I don't have any animosity to any of you, as I believe you have every right to use a plant as you may. I just don't like being thrown into that boat when I'm not. I like even less that what is essentially my medication is being outlawed because it was in that boat.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23595018 - 08/30/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If I'm not mistaken Vinsue and a few other members also uses it for pain management. It kinda fucks them too, though I admit I don't know to what extent.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23595045 - 08/30/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How much do you use for pain, can you stock up on it while you can?


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: morrowasted]
    #23595046 - 08/30/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

morrowasted said:
Quote:

CookieCrumbs said:
Not that I think the petition will do much, even with the 100,000 signatures, but I got to at least do something.


I really do not want to go back to opiates.



you dont have to dude just quit :huxleyfacepalm:




Haha. He even did a proper reaction to his own post.

Yeah how about it. While we're at it let's just make peyote, mushrooms, passionflower, yerba mate, grapes, apricots, and grass illegal as well, since you know, stuff can be like bad for you, "dude", and stuff. And water. God, that stuff has killed billions of people over the years.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: ServantOfBaphomet] * 1
    #23595089 - 08/30/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm so upset. I used this to get off suboxone. It's a miracle drug, and doesn't even get you high.

We need to start a lobby group to fight for our rights.

Of course this is made illegal, people can circumvent Big Pharma to get off opiates.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23595091 - 08/30/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It doesn't seem too hard to grow kratom. It  likes similar conditions to marijuana, maybe a little higher humidity. For a couple hundred bucks you could turn a closet into a kratom garden and harvest fresh leaves almost every day. 100 watt t5 fluorescent should be enough for a couple small plants. Upgrade to 400 watt hps if you need more.

https://www.worldseedsupply.com/growing-kratom-indoors-how-to-grow-the-easy-way/


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: ServantOfBaphomet]
    #23595096 - 08/30/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23595097 - 08/30/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

CookieCrumbs said:
I could rave at everyone who uses it for pure recreation reasons, as that is predominately what it is used for and surely what has caused attention to it.


I didn't want to use kratom because it was so similar to opiates. Instead I suffered for years with chronic pain until I became a very bitter person that dreamed only of suicide. Only when I had a mental break did I give it a chance. And it has given me the most functional life I have ever had for the last 3 years. I hate depending on any drug. But this one was tolerable, both to my body and to my mind and it helped me manage the pain well enough that I could have a life. A decent work life without calling out all the time. A decent social life without cancelling plans all the time.


It's not "just quit" for me. I could be mad at all the people who have recreationally used and abused it like you for helping to throw away the one good light in a deep dark hole of chronic pain... but I won't. I've been sitting here crying for the last hour instead. This is devastating for me. I'm legitimately scared to once again deal with the pain with nothing to really hold it back or control it. More so I'm scared of the person I will become with having to deal with it. Opiates, no opiates, I lose.


Unless I find something else. But in years of research I haven't found anything half as effective or safe as kratom. It's beyond shitty for me man.



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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Crystal G]
    #23595102 - 08/30/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
I'm so upset. I used this to get off suboxone. It's a miracle drug, and doesn't even get you high.

We need to start a lobby group to fight for our rights.

Of course this is made illegal, people can circumvent Big Pharma to get off opiates.



it gets me high as fuck

maybe it doesnt get you high if you're used to hardcore opioids like bupe


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: danielx] * 1
    #23595107 - 08/30/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm doomed.

Welp, back to crippling depression/anxiety.

I wont take benzos, kratom was a godsend, fuck my life.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Lucis]
    #23595117 - 08/30/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This is a dick move.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
    #23595120 - 08/30/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13287689

Kratom can b grown outdoors in the warmer parts of the country. The south east looks ideal, especially Florida. And it's not like your neighbors or local cops are going to look twice at a kratom bush. It's not frost tolerant at all but you could probably cover it during cold spells.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: The Cheshire Cat]
    #23595121 - 08/30/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The Cheshire Cat said:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/please-do-not-make-kratom-schedule-i-substance
Petitions are already out my peoples!
7486 strong so far.




jeez dude anything but that really?...


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Konyap]
    #23595172 - 08/30/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm just trying to be optimistic my friend.:laugh:


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: morrowasted]
    #23595255 - 08/30/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

CookieCrumbs said:
I could rave at everyone who uses it for pure recreation reasons, as that is predominately what it is used for and surely what has caused attention to it.


I didn't want to use kratom because it was so similar to opiates. Instead I suffered for years with chronic pain until I became a very bitter person that dreamed only of suicide. Only when I had a mental break did I give it a chance. And it has given me the most functional life I have ever had for the last 3 years. I hate depending on any drug. But this one was tolerable, both to my body and to my mind and it helped me manage the pain well enough that I could have a life. A decent work life without calling out all the time. A decent social life without cancelling plans all the time.


It's not "just quit" for me. I could be mad at all the people who have recreationally used and abused it like you for helping to throw away the one good light in a deep dark hole of chronic pain... but I won't. I've been sitting here crying for the last hour instead. This is devastating for me. I'm legitimately scared to once again deal with the pain with nothing to really hold it back or control it. More so I'm scared of the person I will become with having to deal with it. Opiates, no opiates, I lose.


Unless I find something else. But in years of research I haven't found anything half as effective or safe as kratom. It's beyond shitty for me man.



look into akuamma seeds





I will thank you


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: The Cheshire Cat] * 2
    #23595266 - 08/30/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

For all of you in distress about losing kratom as a pain management tool stay strong! There are other plants related to kratom with similiar alkaloids and effects. This law makes Mitragynian Speciosa and the 2 main alkaloids illegal, that means related species will still be legal as long as they don't have either of the 2 main alks from kratom. Also extracts can get around this.

They might not be as efficient but there will be alternatives and eventually someone will find another effective one hopefully.


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