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The Phleg
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: plasma]
#23694898 - 09/30/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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no its not
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musiclover420
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: The Phleg]
#23694928 - 09/30/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just saw this and put it in the news but it should go here as well:
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Susan Ash :
"WE'RE GETTING A CHANCE TO BE HEARD; OFFICIALLY! Just off the phone with Congressman Pocan's office. The DEA will be releasing a statement in the next few days about opening a public comment period and exactly what that will look like. Obviously we are going to need to flood them with comments! Aside from every single person writing in with their testimonies, we will need to get as many medical professionals (preferably MDs) and scientists to submit comment and testimony as we possibly can to challenge the claims that Kratom is an opiate and that it has no medicinal use. This is a very big deal y'all. It's completely unprecedented. And regardless of what happens, it means our voices have been heard!!! As an aside but also important, with Congressman Pocan being our champion, no more calls are needed to his office. I sincerely thanked him on behalf of all of us (and if you live in WI, you should send a thank you), but let's let them now focus on seeing this process through with us!
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: musiclover420] 1
#23695294 - 09/30/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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We are winning! Double your efforts, If you haven't called yet, call ! If you have, call again! Write up testimonies of how kratom helps you and why it should not be banned and send them in during the public comment period!
Now is the time ! Shove our truth bombs down the maw of the ugly DEA worm until we blow this ban to pieces.
We got this! Kill this Ban here and now!
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musiclover420
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#23695365 - 09/30/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Check out this great reply I got from one of my congressman Mr Peter DeFazio:
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Dear Mr. *******
Thank you for your message in opposition to the Drug Enforcement Agency’s (DEA) decision to classify kratom as a Schedule I controlled substance. I appreciate hearing from you and share your concerns .
As you know, in August the DEA filed a notice of intent to place the Southeast Asian plant kratom to Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act on September 30. Kratom, an opioid derived from the leaves of the kratom plant, is used both recreationally and for medicinal purposes including pain relief. Kratom is currently legally sold in Florida, Colorado, New York, and North Carolina.
I have long had concerns with the DEA, who as you may know has kept marijuana on Schedule I despite its medical uses , defying all logic . Including kratom in Schedule I classification means the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) considers it to be just as dangerous as heroin and LSD.
You will be pleased to know that I joined my colleagues in sending a letter to the DEA, urging the agency to delay their final decision to place kratom in Schedule I and to consider input from stakeholders and researchers on their decision. I also signed on to a letter to the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) urging Director Shaun Donovan to use statutory authority to require the DEA to delay their proposed action.
Oregon's death rate from opioids has more than quadrupled in the last 10 years. The Oregon Health Authority reported that an average of three Oregonians die per week from prescription opioid overdose. And it’s not just Oregon, in 2014 almost 2 million Americans suffered from substance abuse disorders relating to prescription opioids while another 586,000 were addicted to heroin. It’s time we attack this epidemic head-on.
Classifying kratom as a Schedule I controlled substance places a moratorium on federal funding for research of the drug as a remedy for opioid withdrawal. More research needs to be done on this substance to explore its ability to support individuals with chronic pain and opioid addiction, and the DEA’s movement to deter this research without public input is absurd.
Thanks again for contacting me. You can be sure that I will continue to advocate for safe alternative methods for pain management. Please keep in touch.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: musiclover420]
#23695479 - 09/30/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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-------------------- "It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti FARTS "There is no need for conspiracy where interests converge" - George Carlin Every one of you should see this video. "If you bombard the earth with photons for a while, it can emit a roadster" - Andrej Kerpathy
 
Edited by Bigbadwooof (09/30/16 09:07 PM)
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Mr. Magic



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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23696755 - 10/01/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well its not in effect now but it will be.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Mr. Magic]
#23698341 - 10/01/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mr. Magic said: Well its not in effect now but it will be.
We shall see, young Padawan.
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Moonshoe
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Mr. Magic]
#23698557 - 10/01/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mr. Magic said: Well its not in effect now but it will be.
Naw
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: musiclover420]
#23699678 - 10/02/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow musiclover, what an amazing response!
I'm going to send more emails today.
Last night I gave my mom and her friend some red md. They loved it. It breaks my heart that the friend lost her son to heroin. I lost a close companion recently to that same monster. Literally feel pain in my heart thinking how this outlet may not be available to current and future addicts.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Moonshoe]
#23702536 - 10/03/16 06:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said:
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Mr. Magic said: Well its not in effect now but it will be.
We shall see, young Padawan.
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Moonshoe said:
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Mr. Magic said: Well its not in effect now but it will be.
Naw

“We have determined that it represents an imminent hazard, so we’re not going to drag our feet very long,” Baer told U.S. News. “It’s not a matter of if, it’s just a matter of when.”
Theyre not going to change their minds. I really wish they would too, but nah.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Mr. Magic] 1
#23702587 - 10/03/16 06:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well Defazios response gives me hope on the chance that the DEA may back down in fear of their decision being overrode. You cant stand behind all your decisions if you are fighting multiple losing battles and the country is largely rejecting your authority
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23702636 - 10/03/16 07:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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im keeping my fingers crossed, i have done everything i can. Im not trying to make anyone feel like its a waste or anything. I've also voiced my opinion, donated, signed the petition, would have been at the march if i wasnt so busy at work.
I just dont want to get my hopes up too high i guess. It is possible that they may back down if we keep pushing though and its awesome we're actually being heard. Just keep doing what you're doing guys. 
I dont mean to be super negative, sorry. Lol
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Mr. Magic]
#23702663 - 10/03/16 07:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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To beat this we need to believe and have faith!
YES WE CAN!
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Moonshoe]
#23704436 - 10/03/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have hope. However, the DEA doesn't exactly have a reputation for backing down, even when they are clearly (embarrassingly) in the wrong:
I swear this bitch is on drugs during the interview.
The comedic value of these two gems is further emphasized, when combined with the knowledge that in the not-so-distant past, a significant number of DEA agents were caught (with their pants down - hyuk hyuk) partying with Mexican drug cartels, fucking hookers, and using drugs, all courtesy of the 'big bad criminals'. This, while proclaiming that grandma down the street smoking pot to remedy her glaucoma should be thrown in jail, and likening marijuana abuse to cocaine abuse.
It's all a fucking sick joke.
-------------------- "It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti FARTS "There is no need for conspiracy where interests converge" - George Carlin Every one of you should see this video. "If you bombard the earth with photons for a while, it can emit a roadster" - Andrej Kerpathy
 
Edited by Bigbadwooof (10/03/16 05:32 PM)
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musiclover420
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23704452 - 10/03/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I remember that story about the DE agents at the cartel hookers and drugs party Do you remember what they were charged with if anything?
It really is a sick sick joke at the entire countries expense, and the DEA and many other greedy scumbags are laughing all the way to the bank...
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: musiclover420] 1
#23712486 - 10/06/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: birdeatingspider] 1
#23712972 - 10/06/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh my god that video is hilarious!
im gonna chug a kratom smoothie to it right now!
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TNK
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Connoisseur]
#23712978 - 10/06/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I bought some from a head shop that was having a blow out sale because if the impending laws.
40 grams for 10$ not too shabby.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23713019 - 10/06/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said: I have hope. However, the DEA doesn't exactly have a reputation for backing down, even when they are clearly (embarrassingly) in the wrong:
I swear this bitch is on drugs during the interview.
The comedic value of these two gems is further emphasized, when combined with the knowledge that in the not-so-distant past, a significant number of DEA agents were caught (with their pants down - hyuk hyuk) partying with Mexican drug cartels, fucking hookers, and using drugs, all courtesy of the 'big bad criminals'. This, while proclaiming that grandma down the street smoking pot to remedy her glaucoma should be thrown in jail, and likening marijuana abuse to cocaine abuse.
It's all a fucking sick joke.
The guy in the second video fucking KILLS it!
He is 100% correct!
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Connoisseur]
#23714526 - 10/06/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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He is a representative from Oregon, and I believe someone posted an email response from him in this very thread, illustrating his avid support for the anti-kratom-ban initiative, though I may be wrong.
I love his fuckin bow tie.
By the way, watch the man behind the DEA guy when he says, 'there have been a fair amount of tobacco related deaths' lmao!!! Isn't tobacco the number 2 cause of death in America? Second to hear disease? Which is often caused by... tobacco?
-------------------- "It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti FARTS "There is no need for conspiracy where interests converge" - George Carlin Every one of you should see this video. "If you bombard the earth with photons for a while, it can emit a roadster" - Andrej Kerpathy
 
Edited by Bigbadwooof (10/06/16 09:49 PM)
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