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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: musiclover420]
    #23674016 - 09/24/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Surely it can go the same route cannabis did. It's not nearly as potent as pot,
I feel. I mean you just chop it up and drink it down for christ's sake.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23674029 - 09/24/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
Well if that's true then is neh impossible that the FDA will approve it. They never approve herbal medicines. Ever. Ever ever ever.

But that would at least give us another year of freedom, if nothing else. Crossing my fingers that it's true.




I am not hopeful about the FDA part but if they put the ban on hold that alone would be a pretty big victory.

Maybe that will allot us time to pool funds to get the FDA research underway :shrug:


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: musiclover420]
    #23677752 - 09/25/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #23677890 - 09/25/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

@cookie crumbs  they may not approve the plant but i can see big pharma isolating and using the alkaloids to create meds


@bloodwhip same.  it's as good of news as we can realistically expect i guess. really hope it works out.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #23677949 - 09/25/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

One of the recommended articles in that was:

DEA Leader Now Certain: Heroin More Dangerous Than Pot



....


:lol:


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Apostle]
    #23677952 - 09/25/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

True, and I hope for that if nothing else. It would make the DEA change it's ban specifications.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23677955 - 09/25/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Good point.

Though thc pills have existed for a while all why marijuana was schedule 3 and supposedly had no medicinal value.


how does that work?


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Apostle] * 1
    #23677981 - 09/25/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know. I don't see how anyone who has half a brain doesn't think the DEA's substance scheduling and enforcement is completely arbitrary.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23677997 - 09/25/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

true


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Apostle]
    #23679621 - 09/26/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

URGENT!!

WE HAVE A FEW MORE HOURS BEFORE THEYRE DONE SIGNING!! PLEASE CALL YOUR REP NOW TO TELL THEM TO SIGN!! WE JUST GOT ANOTHER TWO (2) REPS ADDED ON AS SINGEES for a total of 47!!  PLEASE CALL NOW!!


I figured I'd post here as well to get attention!  Will post more details of signees later.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tripp23]
    #23679703 - 09/26/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

call who?

What do i say?


in Florida by the way.

i never signed the petition either. can i still do it?

appreciate ya man.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Apostle]
    #23679718 - 09/26/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I dunno about the rest but you can still sign the petition and I think you should.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23679760 - 09/26/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

will do.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Apostle]
    #23680665 - 09/26/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just emailed both my Senators and one from Iowa on accident...
:lolsy:

Everyone please do the same! If your lazy I will post a long email here people can copy and paste to their senators.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: musiclover420]
    #23681355 - 09/26/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tripp23]
    #23686464 - 09/28/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What's the latest?

Is there still a need to email/call around?


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #23686516 - 09/28/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

the latest is....


drum roll please....





WERE FUCKED!


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23687533 - 09/28/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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tripp23 said:
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URGENT!!! SENATOR HATCH DEAR COLLEAGUE LETTER!!!

Senator Hatch is one of the longest serving senators and is probably the most well-known leader on dietary supplement issues in the country! We do have a draft copy we can't share until it's finalized tomorrow morning.

This is IT!!! We likely only have TWO days to get signees, but so many have already shown interest thanks to all who have made calls and sent e-mails already!

Call, tell them your age and occupation, that you are a responsible consumer of the botanical kratom because it has *helped you by ______ and ask that they sign the Hatch Dear Colleague letter asking the DEA to delay the proposed scheduling of Kratom "to allow for both a public comment period and sufficient time for the DEA to outline it's evidentiary standards to the Congress on the justification of this proposed action."

In the morning he may have an original co-signer making it a bipartisan effort, so it may become the Hatch (R) and ________ (D) letter) .

Call 202-224-3121 and press option #1 for Senate. Find and e-mail your senator here http://www.senate.gov/senators/contact/

ENDLESS PRESSSURE! ENDLESSLY APPLIED!




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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #23690409 - 09/29/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This was just sent by one of my vendors.  I am confused though as they t says to make calls, preferably Mon or Tues, and that we only have two days to do so? 

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Hatch Letter
After 51 House Representatives signed the Dear Colleague letter sent to the DEA and OMB, Orrin Hatch of the Senate has followed up with his own letter, currently being circulated to enlist support. Today and Tomorrow are the only days available for this to happen, so if you would like kratom to remain legal, please call your senators.

Here is the full text of AKA's request as posted on Facebook last night:

"URGENT!!! SENATOR HATCH DEAR COLLEAGUE LETTER IN NEED OF YOUR SENATOR'S SIGNATURE!

Senator Hatch is one of the longest serving senators and is probably the most well-known leader on dietary supplement issues in the country! We do have a draft copy but we can't share until it's finalized tomorrow morning. This is IT!!! We only have TWO days to get signees, but so many have shown interest thanks to all who have made calls and sent e-mails already!

Call, tell them your age and occupation, that you are a responsible consumer of the botanical kratom because it has *helped you by ______ and ask that they sign the Hatch Dear Colleague letter requesting the DEA to delay the proposed scheduling of Kratom "to allow for both a public comment period and sufficient time for the DEA to outline it's evidentiary standards to the Congress on the justification of this proposed action." (In the morning he may have an original co-signer making it a bipartisan effort, so it may become the Hatch (R) and ________ (D) letter) .

Call 202-224-3121 and press option #1 for Senate.

Find and e-mail your senator here http://www.senate.gov/senators/contact/

ENDLESS PRESSSURE! ENDLESSLY APPLIED"

On Friday, the American Kratom Association, the American Herbal Products Association, the Botanical Education Alliance, and National Strategies - a consulting firm hired, using donations, to engage the public influential leaders in government to enlist their support - held a conference call to discuss the status of their actions over the last couple of weeks. This is a very encouraging look into the behind-the-scenes efforts of some very generous people to protect the legality of kratom.

Please listen to the full recording, as it provides valuable insight into the extraordinary successes achieved by the AKA and its associates in a short amount of time:


Join the American Kratom Association facebook group for the latest updates. Also monitor the public AKA page. Finally, join the email list at the AKA homepage.

Your donations are desperately needed regardless of what happens this week. The AKA will continue to fight as long as there is money to pay for it. Our voices united stand a very good chance of setting right this injustice.

DONATE HERE: http://www.americankratom.org/donate/

Focus on the Senate
The Drug Policy Alliance has issued a complementary call to action, asking that you call all of the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Share your story if you have one, and say:
“I am calling to urge the Senate Judiciary Committee members to tell the DEA not to ban kratom. With the U.S. currently suffering from an overdose epidemic linked to opioids, the DEA is criminalizing a plant many people use to help with opioid withdrawal. If kratom is placed on the list of Schedule I drugs, people that possess kratom will face long prison sentences, and scientific investigation into its medicinal benefits will effectively be halted. Please tell the DEA not to ban kratom. Thank you.”

Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) - (202) 224-3744
Ranking Member Patrick Leahy (D-VT) - (202) 224-4242
Orrin Hatch (R-UT) - (202) 224-5251
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) - (202) 224-3841
Jeff Sessions (R-AL) - (202) 224-4124
Chuck Schumer (D-NY) - (202) 224-6542
Lindsey Graham (R-SC) - (202) 224-5972
Dick Durbin (D-IL) - (202) 224-2152
John Cornyn (R-TX) - (202) 224-2934
Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) - (202) 224-2921
Mike Lee (R-UT) - (202) 224-5444
Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) - (202) 224-3244
Ted Cruz (R-TX) - (202) 224-5922
Al Franken (D-MN) - (202) 224-5641
Jeff Flake (R-AR) - (202) 224-4521
Chris Coons (D-DE) - (202) 224-5042
David Vitter (R-LA) - (202) 224-4623
Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) - (202) 224-2823
David Perdue (R-GA) - (202) 224-3521
Thom Tillis (R-NC) - (202) 224-6342

With many thousands of calls, the Senate will be forced to take notice and hopefully bend to public pressure. Please set aside a few minute this week, preferably Monday or Tuesday, to call, at the very least, your two senators




To call the DEA directly - 202-307-7977


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #23694858 - 09/30/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

so is it scheduled now


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