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CookieCrumbs
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Lophosaurus]
#23668971 - 09/22/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think I've gotten a bit rambly with my contacts lol
I feel justified in being rambly though. 
God bless the anon that donated such a large amount. If I'm not mistaken that alone covers a third of what we needed to raise for the legal lawyer type people. ...no I don't know who they are right now.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23669360 - 09/22/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Got a response back from the senator a little bit more personal than the automatic ones needless to say he is not for kratom nor weed at all in the lone star state.
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Acaterpillar
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tdubz]
#23669421 - 09/22/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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tdubz said: Got a response back from the senator a little bit more personal than the automatic ones needless to say he is not for kratom nor weed at all in the lone star state.
I'd be interested to see what you wrote him and his response since I'm in Texas too.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Acaterpillar]
#23669435 - 09/22/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well a short explanation would be kratom has to be pharmaceuticalized in order to be "safe" and as for weed well federal law triumphs over state law and state defense.
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nolongrlurkin
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tdubz]
#23669544 - 09/22/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What the efff, fucking ander Crenshaw (fl), where u at?!?!?I hate to sound like Stan but I wrote u like a thousand times And u can't even give me an autograph?? Apparently u stand to lose too much.. Florida's a pill mill state if I've ever seen one. Ph show up here and get a methadone a day and we'll get u off them there scripts!! Logic=θ
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: nolongrlurkin]
#23670040 - 09/23/16 04:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yo im kinda buggin out, my usual vendor has sold out and i cant find another vendor who has fair prices to order one last kilo.
Id never normally ask, but these are desperate times. If anyone has a kratom vendor that does kilos somewhere around $100 PLEASE PM me.. id really appreciate it.
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nolongrlurkin
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: ak47myth]
#23670185 - 09/23/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Check eBay.. Try whatever vein tea.. I typed in maeng da tea and got at least one result.. 200G for 40 I think.. Scroll down to related items and Ta.. Da.. Listen guys, I won't be able to access the marketplace before (stupid fucking autocorrectx2)kratom is illegalize or banned or whatever we call it.. Pm me please please if u have cuttings or seeds..
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tdubz]
#23670221 - 09/23/16 06:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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tdubz said: Well a short explanation would be kratom has to be pharmaceuticalized in order to be "safe" and as for weed well federal law triumphs over state law and state defense.
It has to be pharmaceuticalized to be safe...
I have a coworker with that mentality. He has back pain issues and takes pain killers/muscle relaxers/anti-anxiety meds/OTC pain pills, on a daily basis.
Tried to explain kratom to him and he wasnt buying it. "I just go with whatever my doctors tell me i need, i trust them." He thinks its safe because his doctors prescribe it to him. :/
He misses work quite a lot because of stomach problems...
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Mr. Magic]
#23670335 - 09/23/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have a friend that's a former addict that just lives with terrible full body muscle spasms cuz she can't trust herself to take the pills her doc wants to give her. I recommend kratom and cited its extremely low probably for addiction and she looked it up and was like nope I can't take it kids use it to get high.
People act like addiction and relief are bad. She's addicted as fuck to coffee, and cigarettes at the time, but that's somehow better because they don't actually make her happy and drroves of the population are also addicted. K
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CookieCrumbs
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23670365 - 09/23/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't get me wrong, addiction is bad. My bro had a problem with kkratom. But he has a problem with everything. And I knew if it wasn't kratom it'd be my dad's Ritalin or my moms xanax or just liquor if nothing else.
I looked the other way much of the time he jacked my kratom. Mostly just because I'd rather him have a kratom habit than a benzo habit. Which he did end up having and got addicted to etizolam and had grand mal seizures from wds. least that taught him a lesson. But I'd rather not see that happen to anyone, much less my little bro.
Some people just have addictive personalities. I do too but I counter it by beating the shit out of myself when I go too far. Not a good look, so I can't recommend that method to anyone. Point is if you're an addictive person, chances are you're eventually going to find something to be addicted to. I pick at and peel the skin off my ears pretty much everyday because if I don't obsess over SOMETHING I have severe panic attacks.
Not addicted to kratom. I too am addicted to coffee and cigarettes. And in terms of safety I'd honestly rather be addicted to kratom than that latter one. I'd rather anyone I love to be addicted to kratom and coffee than almost anything else.
Which coincidentally go very well together kratom coffee tea is the shit.
...shame I'm probably never going to have it again...
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Mr. Magic


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23670568 - 09/23/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah i mean im addicted to kratom because i have an addictive personality. I knew very well after the first few times i took it "man this is something im going to take everyday" lol Not to the point that id say i have a problem though, like i wouldnt steal someone elses kratom.
I get what you mean though. That sucks that happened to your bro, etizolam sucks. Im currently tapering off etizolam. Ill be off of it this sunday and i plan on staying off it.
Kratom has been really helping me get through the withdrawals. Ive started taking slightly more kratom everyday, but i think its a good trade off. Id rather be addicted to the kratom.
Which now it doesnt matter. I have a little less than 2kilos, and cant get anymore so ill have to taper and quit kratom once i run low.
It really sucks because i love kratom. It seriously helps me get through the crazy hours i work. To me nothing really compares to kratom when it comes to productivity. It has the perfect combo of effects and not too much of any particular one, its just perfect.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Mr. Magic]
#23671108 - 09/23/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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its really special huh? Just the right amount of stimulation.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tdubz] 1
#23671346 - 09/23/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hear people saying that kratom is going schedule 1 and there is nothing we can do because pharma is against kratom or whatever. Yea big pharma is very powerful but so are votes, politicians want votes more than they want support from big pharma, because without votes they don't get elected.
Politicians I'm sure look closely at public sentiment polls on lots of issues and if it looks like the majority is leaning in favor of kratom, it stands to reason that politicians would be enticed to jump on that bandwagon.
Just because dea isn't elected doesn't mean you can't influence policy. The president elects the attorney general, who appoints the administrator of the dea.
You guys are raising public awareness too, which can shift sentiment and shift polls, and eventually shift policy. Could take a while but look what's been done with cannabis. Just a short time ago even if the individual states had a MMJ program the feds still considered it illegal, now the feds have given it legal status in states that allow it. That is huge.
Maybe we can get it started on the state level, and get just 1 state to issue doctor approved medical kratom licences and go from there. Raising public awareness, doing actual scientific studies is what brought cannabis this far.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: invitro]
#23671523 - 09/23/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The game of whack a mole continues... now elephant tranquilizer opioids are appearing on the streets... only 20 micrograms of this stuff can kill yea. Canadian police found 1 kg of this shit in Vancouver http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/health/carfentanil-drugs-opioids-addiction-health-1.3769774 "It's 10,000 times more powerful than morphine, 100 times stronger than fentanyl," It's also 3-5 times stronger than etorphine. 200-250 times stronger than Dermorphin from the amazon tree frog(phyllomedusa bicolor).
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: danielx]
#23671540 - 09/23/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is anyone interested in getting cuttings to root? The prices are exorbitant now.
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Love_spirit
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Herbalhug]
#23671544 - 09/23/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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$30 shipped last I checked. Is that alot?
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: The Cheshire Cat] 2
#23672307 - 09/23/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Cheshire Cat said: The game of whack a mole continues... now elephant tranquilizer opioids are appearing on the streets... only 20 micrograms of this stuff can kill yea. Canadian police found 1 kg of this shit in Vancouver http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/health/carfentanil-drugs-opioids-addiction-health-1.3769774 "It's 10,000 times more powerful than morphine, 100 times stronger than fentanyl," It's also 3-5 times stronger than etorphine. 200-250 times stronger than Dermorphin from the amazon tree frog(phyllomedusa bicolor).
They literally just finished talking about this in my local news. 33 dead. Fucked up. Guess the smartest choice of action is to take away things that aren't heroin and keep people off heroin, so that addicts who have recovered can go back to the heroin that's killing them. NATIONAL HEALTH CRISIS AVERTED!!!
I read about the kg in canada too. Apparently enough to kill every canadian 5 times. I read somewhere else that national production limits are something like 30-50 grams. Iirc this means that whatever nation exceeds that limit is cut off from the united nations trading and shipment routes. And to think your neighborhood dope boy is sprinkling "just a tiny bit yo" into everyones smack to make a buck. :vomit:
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#23672310 - 09/23/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well Canada has prescription heroin, look out Canada here I come, joking of course.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Lucis]
#23673938 - 09/24/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just got an interesting email from Kratom Infusion:
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Dear Friends, We would like to thank everyone that contacted his or her congressmen in support of Congressmen Pocan and Salmon by signing the ‘’Dear Colleague letter’’ This has been an overwhelming success so far 45 members of congress signed the letter to ask the DEA Not to Ban Kratom. The letter will be sent to Chuck Rosenberg, acting administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration, and Office of Management and Budget Director Shaun Donovan on Monday 26th. “This significant regulatory action was done without any opportunity for public comment from researchers, consumers and other stakeholders,” the lawmakers say in the letter to Rosenberg. “This hasty decision could have serious effects on consumer access and choice of an internationally recognized herbal supplement.” The letter to Donovan asks him to overrule the DEA, which is invoking a rarely used emergency power with just 30 days notice, warning the action "will put a halt on federally funded research and innovation surrounding the treatment of individuals suffering from opioid and other addictions.” SOMETHING FISHY IS GOING ON An article was published in the Boston Tribune 2 days ago:
 The article has since been removed from the newspaper but fortunately google has left his trace. We anonymously contacted the Boston Tribune for some clarification but they refused to comment on why the article was pulled. We managed to get a copy of the article which read as follows:
Upon news of the kratom ban, users and advocates of the drug assembled at the White House to protest the ban and gathered over 134,000 signatures on a We the People petition. According to DEA spokesperson Marcus Langley, the Drug Enforcement Administration made the decision to temporarily remove the scheduled ban of kratom upon the overwhelming feedback and outrage from those using the herbal drug to treat legitimate medical conditions. Langley told reporters at a press-conference that the DEA has requested the FDA (U.S. Food and Drug Administration) thoroughly investigate the drug prior to a decision being reached regarding the drug’s future legality within the United States. The DEA has announced a January 3rd, 2018, deadline for the FDA to provide the necessary insights into the benefits and risks of kratom use. If the FDA fails to provide conclusive results by the 2018 deadline, the DEA intends to permanently ban the drug and classify it at a Schedule 1 substance. The reversal of the scheduled kratom ban has many users excited and hopeful for the future of the drug’s mainstream use. Daniel McCarthy, a 54-year old kratom user in Dallas, Texas, told a CBS affiliate reporter, “As someone who attended the White House protest and signed the online petition, it feels amazing to have made a difference for hundreds of thousands of people -being an American is awesome!” As soon as we hear anything more we will let all of you know.
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Not sure if its legit or not yet but this would be great news...
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CookieCrumbs
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: musiclover420]
#23674005 - 09/24/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well if that's true then is neh impossible that the FDA will approve it. They never approve herbal medicines. Ever. Ever ever ever.
But that would at least give us another year of freedom, if nothing else. Crossing my fingers that it's true.
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