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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: badchad] * 1
    #23627940 - 09/09/16 03:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe in 100 years they'll have tested kratom enough to safely say it's a safer alternative to methadone to bring people off smack and they'll make a pill called kratinol.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #23628188 - 09/09/16 06:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)


I am sharing an update from my vendor:

Making Progress
The impending action to classify kratom as a Schedule I drug in the US has been getting steady exposure, thanks to courageous and impassioned voices. Proponents of keeping the plant legal are speaking out, and interesting parties are taking notice. However, there is still a long way to go, and the future of our ability to take control of our own lives with regard to herbal supplements remains uncertain. More on what you can do later, but first, thank you for taking the time to read about the latest developments on efforts to preserve our freedom.

Petition reaches 100k Signatures
Sometime on Sept. 7th, the petition to keep kratom legal surpassed one hundred thousand signatures. This is largely symbolic, as there are no guarantees that it will elicit a response from the White House. The milestone, reached after only 8 days, shows that users of kratom are not afraid to let their voices be heard and spreads awareness. The next goal is 200K signatures. If you have not yet signed the petition, please do so at the following link:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/please-do-not-make-kratom-schedule-i-substance
Libertarian Party Voices Support For Kratom Advocates
Libertarian Party presidential candidate Gary Johnson recently held an "Ask-Me-Anything" session on Reddit. A question on the kratom ban was overwhelmingly the most popular by upvotes, although it was not answered immediately, as the party took a day to compose a statement that many of us find encouraging. LNC Chair Nicholas Sarwark condemned the DEA in a press release, saying, "the DEA is headed in the wrong direction with kratom." The LNC agrees with opponents of the ban that kratom "is currently not hurting anybody" and that "no harm can be proven." For the full text, please visit:

https://www.lp.org/news/press-releases/lnc-chairs-comments-on-dea-scheduling-of-kratom-like-heroin
Your Support Is Needed
While the public outrage evoked by the upcoming kratom ban has been encouraging, and several popular media outlets such as Forbes, the Huffington Post, and the Washington Times have presented fair coverage of the herb, there is still benefit to be gained from contributing your voice. If you have not signed the petition, please do so and ask others to as well. While the temporary ban may not be averted, Congress would still have to enact a law within two or three years to make it permanent. Therefore, please CALL your representatives and let them know that the DEA's action is an extreme overreach of abuse of power. The power given to the DEA to emergency schedule a substance without normal review and comment was only meant for the most extreme and dire of circumstances, and the truth is that kratom does not warrant such action.

To easily find contact information for your representatives:
http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

For more information on how you can be a kratom activist:
http://www.americankratom.org/national_call_to_action

Thank you for devoting your energy to saving kratom, and thank you for your support over the years.


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To mingle with the Universe, and feel
What I can ne’er express, yet cannot all conceal.


Edited by birdeatingspider (09/09/16 06:50 AM)


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #23628554 - 09/09/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Because I love playing Devil's Advocate.....

Has anyone considered that maybe it's bad for you and the DEA really has your best interest in mind? Maybe mitragynine causes dick cancer?

Just kidding. Fuck the DEA and Fuck Obama.


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Brewmaster: Well, the mescaline will still be in there, but I'd be afraid of it conjealing and trying to escape after it grew in size from eating all the other shit in my fridge, and possibly my dogs if it got out.

Pithlit: sentient drugs, now that is an idea ...

OneMoreRobot: Idea? It's a fuckin' reality. You know Salvia? Nigga stole my TV.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Brewmaster]
    #23628600 - 09/09/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lmao
There are plenty of things that can give you dick cancer that are quite legal. ...don't jerk off with sun tan lotion...


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Brewmaster]
    #23628604 - 09/09/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Brewmaster said:
Because I love playing Devil's Advocate.....

Has anyone considered that maybe it's bad for you and the DEA really has your best interest in mind? Maybe mitragynine causes dick cancer?

Just kidding. Fuck the DEA and Fuck Obama.



If it causes dick cancer than without a doubt my dick shouldn't exist. Like even if it was a .00001% chance.

Hell i don't even believe the "liver hepatoxicity" claims people make. I have taken 30-40 grams daily for about 2 years and the 3 years before that was 20-30 daily.

Shit is as harmless as it gets. The farmers who supposedly have liver damage sit underneath trees munching leaves all day. I chug POWDER all day. Easily more wait then chewing a quid of the stuff.

It's disgusting when i mix it, it looks like fucking quicksand and i just chug it. I actually don't mind the taste at all anymore.:rofl:


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I'm addicted to coke, weed, booze, ludes and speed.
Not LSD, you can't get addicted to LSD, it was built by scientists.

I ain't got no demons that gonna get woke.


In erowid we trust.

Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #23628639 - 09/09/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It can effect your liver. I have had problems with swelling and liver counts since I OD'd on a suicide cocktail about 5-6 years back. Technically thats drug induced hepatitis.


I can feel it when it swells. It hurts, like inflammation tends to. And kratom can cause it to swell. But I've only ever noticed it when I've been taking moderate doses without a break for a long period of time or taking extracts "enhanced" or just plain taking too much. And I think the over dose of kratom is some of the worst hepatic inflammation pain I've experienced. Of course combining it with anything, if I drink half a beer, it triggers that too.



But I take 2 aspirin or god forbid one tylenol and I'm fucked up for days. In fact the worst episode I've had with my liver was when I was living on tylenol and tramadol. Have not had but one off liver count and significantly less episodes since switching to kratom and finding that good dose.



But if a person with hepatitis were looking to get high with it I'd say its a bad idea. But I think in reasonable amounts healthy people can use it without any problems.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23628665 - 09/09/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think medical marijuana might be the best treatment for people with hepatitis. But obviously I don't have that in my state yet  :bored:


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23628676 - 09/09/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I tried the grapefruit tek this evening drinking it to wash down my usual 6.5g total spread in 12 caps which was otherwise having very little effect.

I'm pleased to find that this has brought back the feeling I used to get before my tolerance.  Very tranquil, slightly drowsy and very content.  It's like a dejavu of the early days.

I'll be trying the turmeric next, then turmeric and grapefruit combined, then just drinking the raw powder instead of capping.

It's a shame I've consumed 2kg of my post ban stash (having two doses a day to combat tolerance) before I discovered this, but our lessons do come late, :thumbup:


Edited by Duncan Rowhl (09/09/16 10:58 AM)


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23628810 - 09/09/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Duncan Rowhl said:
I tried the grapefruit tek this evening drinking it to wash down my usual 6.5g total spread in 12 caps which was otherwise having very little effect.

I'm pleased to find that this has brought back the feeling I used to get before my tolerance.  Very tranquil, slightly drowsy and very content.  It's like a dejavu of the early days.

I'll be trying the turmeric next, then turmeric and grapefruit combined, then just drinking the raw powder instead of capping.

It's a shame I've consumed 2kg of my post ban stash (having two doses a day to combat tolerance) before I discovered this, but our lessons do come late, :thumbup:



Does white grapefruit potentiate it? I know it works for benzo's amd opiates but never got around to trying with kratom.


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I'm addicted to coke, weed, booze, ludes and speed.
Not LSD, you can't get addicted to LSD, it was built by scientists.

I ain't got no demons that gonna get woke.


In erowid we trust.

Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #23628843 - 09/09/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Does anyone know a good vendor for green bali powder, like a kilo


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: DaMyrrhdurer]
    #23628888 - 09/09/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Check shroomery sponsors bud. I've done business with most of them and they're legit.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23628899 - 09/09/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

CookieCrumbs said:
Check shroomery sponsors bud. I've done business with most of them and they're legit.



I would recommend r/kratom for vendors. Most of the shroomery vendors are pretty pricey.


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I'm addicted to coke, weed, booze, ludes and speed.
Not LSD, you can't get addicted to LSD, it was built by scientists.

I ain't got no demons that gonna get woke.


In erowid we trust.

Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast] * 1
    #23628919 - 09/09/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:ohwell: no one is pricey right now.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23629011 - 09/09/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

CookieCrumbs said:
:ohwell: no one is pricey right now.



Like their dropping prices? Or there's really no way we can argue since we're fucked in 3 weeks?


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I'm addicted to coke, weed, booze, ludes and speed.
Not LSD, you can't get addicted to LSD, it was built by scientists.

I ain't got no demons that gonna get woke.


In erowid we trust.

Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #23629016 - 09/09/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I emailed my vendor and they never answered back :sad:


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Mr. Magic]
    #23629044 - 09/09/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Mr. Magic said:
I emailed my vendor and they never answered back :sad:



My vendor stopped accepting master card in the time between placing an order and him processing it. The site still has a master card option but he emailed and said they don't accept it anymore.:sad:


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I'm addicted to coke, weed, booze, ludes and speed.
Not LSD, you can't get addicted to LSD, it was built by scientists.

I ain't got no demons that gonna get woke.


In erowid we trust.

Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #23629050 - 09/09/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

LuSiD enthusiast said:
Quote:

Duncan Rowhl said:
I tried the grapefruit tek this evening drinking it to wash down my usual 6.5g total spread in 12 caps which was otherwise having very little effect.

I'm pleased to find that this has brought back the feeling I used to get before my tolerance.  Very tranquil, slightly drowsy and very content.  It's like a dejavu of the early days.

I'll be trying the turmeric next, then turmeric and grapefruit combined, then just drinking the raw powder instead of capping.

It's a shame I've consumed 2kg of my post ban stash (having two doses a day to combat tolerance) before I discovered this, but our lessons do come late, :thumbup:



Does white grapefruit potentiate it? I know it works for benzo's amd opiates but never got around to trying with kratom.




I imagine so.  I just have the regular, cheap grapefruit juice in a box.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #23629057 - 09/09/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

LuSiD enthusiast said:
Quote:

Mr. Magic said:
I emailed my vendor and they never answered back :sad:



My vendor stopped accepting master card in the time between placing an order and him processing it. The site still has a master card option but he emailed and said they don't accept it anymore.:sad:




I think this is where the Bitcoin is going to serve a worthy purpose through black market trading through the dark web.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Mr. Magic]
    #23629093 - 09/09/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Mr. Magic said:
I emailed my vendor and they never answered back :sad:




Yeah I put in an order over a week ago at the .us one and haven't received tracking or any conformation other than my payment was recieved.  Says 5-9 days shipping time, which I think I'm coming up on.  Kinda hesitant to order more, as they could easily fuck people over and not suffer anyway since they're going to have to shut down.

A couple weeks ago they shipped same day, and I had my package in 2-3 days, now I'm getting no response.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #23629097 - 09/09/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

LuSiD enthusiast said:
Quote:

CookieCrumbs said:
Check shroomery sponsors bud. I've done business with most of them and they're legit.



I would recommend r/kratom for vendors. Most of the shroomery vendors are pretty pricey.




World seed supply's kratom collection was selling kilos of maeng da for 75 bucks a piece if you email them your order but they didn't update the listed price on their site.


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