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globejs
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: musiclover420] 1
#23606092 - 09/02/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just got this email
. Sure invoice will follow in a little bit Thanks and pleAse reference the links below.
The aka has really organized a serious effort to fight this in congress. Nancy pelosi's son is at the head of the organization. The Botanical Legal Defense and aka have hired two high powered law firms and a congressional lobbyist, which will cost $350k a month. All the vendors are donating money. One has put up 50k$ already. The pharmaceutical industry has plenty of money to burn so this can only be won if. We all unite and contribute. The sanders campaign showed that small donations can add up and make a difference
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xbloodwhipx

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: musiclover420]
#23606094 - 09/02/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh yeah, no suprise that it happened. I am, however, extremely shocked it happened this year, I wasnt expecting a kratom ban for like, another 5 years.
Damn...
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cez

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#23606183 - 09/02/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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tdubz



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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#23606188 - 09/02/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was expecting at least another year or two also.
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CookieCrumbs
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: globejs]
#23606484 - 09/02/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
globejs said: Just got this email
. Sure invoice will follow in a little bit Thanks and pleAse reference the links below.
The aka has really organized a serious effort to fight this in congress. Nancy pelosi's son is at the head of the organization. The Botanical Legal Defense and aka have hired two high powered law firms and a congressional lobbyist, which will cost $350k a month. All the vendors are donating money. One has put up 50k$ already. The pharmaceutical industry has plenty of money to burn so this can only be won if. We all unite and contribute. The sanders campaign showed that small donations can add up and make a difference
This sounds good. Thanks for sharing. I'll chip in when I get home.
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CookieCrumbs
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: danielx]
#23606512 - 09/02/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
danielx said: I know he is trolling this thread right now, but he is right. This could get a million signatures and nothing would change.
Unfortunately the damage is already done, nothing will stop this. I didn't want to be pecimistic in this thread, but I want everyone to understand the situation at hand and make provisions for their medicine.
The stakes are really high in this game. I really hope all these good people dont end up back on heroin/pills. Please take care of yourselves.
The thing that gets me though, that really pisses me off, is I stock up on what was once my very legal pain medicine... What happens if I get busted for several kilos of a schedule 1 drug? It doesn't sound like anything good.
This is half the reason why people do illegal shit. Because they see no reason not to when they are considered a criminal for silly shit like this.
If we had laws that actually made a lot of sense and really were in the best interest of the people, in the land of the FREE, maybe people wouldn't break them so often. I wonder if they've ever thought of that.
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tdubz



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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23606518 - 09/02/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Better believe they will bust people, no point in stocking up just another reason for the cops to come kick your door.
A kilo of Kratom is going to get you like a life sentence.
I'm eating mine up all right now might as well it's going to be hard to shit in the morning.
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Apostle
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tdubz]
#23606529 - 09/02/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Boy is it depressing that you are only slightly off when you say that.
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CookieCrumbs
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Apostle]
#23607640 - 09/03/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmmm... Yeah great incentive not to do heroin instead. Or to deal it.
I think I might be mad enough for all of us.
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Apostle
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23607665 - 09/03/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I do both. i would be a liar if i said kratom didn't get me loaded but it's hardly something the public needs to be protected from. This is insanity.
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tripp23
Kratom Freak



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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23607669 - 09/03/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Friendly reminder to attend the Kratom march on Sept. 13th if possible, and please sign and share the petition in my sig!!! We must keep moving forth!
Also,
These are the people responsible for signing off the Emergency Kratom ban.
Email asap when possible!
Correspondence to the department, including the Attorney General, may be sent to:
U.S. Department of Justice 950 Pennsylvania Ave. NW Washington DC 20530-0001
The department may be contacted by phone at the following:
Department Comment Line: 202-353-1555 Department of Justice Main Switchboard: 202-514-2000
Peter J Kadzik Assistant Attorney General Contact Office of Legislation Affairs: 202-514-2141
Intergovernmental Affairs and Public Liaison: 202-514-3465
Michael J Lewis, Office of Diversion, Drug Enforcement Administration Administration; Mailing Address: 8701 Morrissette Drive, Springfield, Virginia, 22152 Telephone: 202-598-6812
Also please contact the assistant secretary of HHS Karen B Desalvo, MD, MPH, MSc
Acting Assistant Secretary for Health:
Email Address: ASH@hhs.gov
Telephone: 202-690-7694
Jim Esquea
Assistant Secretary for Legislation (ASL)
Telephone: 202-690-7627
Kevin Griffis
Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs (ASPA)
Telephone: 202-690-7850
Colleen Barros
Acting Assistant Secretary for Administration (ASA)
HHS Office of the Secretary
Email Address: asaio@hhs.gov
Telephone: 202-690-7431
Keep on fighting!!
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globejs
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23607674 - 09/03/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nobody is going to come knocking your door down for kratom. They will make sure suppliers and stores are adhering to the law but not private homes lol
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Apostle
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tripp23]
#23607694 - 09/03/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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People really shouldn't start killing these faggots in these letter agencies.
That'd be fucked up.
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Love_spirit
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tdubz]
#23607731 - 09/03/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The only place I could imagine you getting a life sentence is texas or something. Even then I doubt most cops could even identify what it is. You could say it's tea or something. Point is don't be a fucking coward. It's an injustice that a perfectly safe plant is being demonized. Get mad and stay mad.
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LobsterSauce


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Love_spirit]
#23607752 - 09/03/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't be a coward, ya right.
Go straight to jail. Do not pass go.
Do not collect $200.
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Apostle
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LobsterSauce]
#23607766 - 09/03/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I did that when i was a young lad who believed in and voiced that it was my right to smoke weed, while on probation.
Ended up violating and doing time. smoked while i was in there. would do again.
fuck prohibition.
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LobsterSauce


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Apostle]
#23607802 - 09/03/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What sort of hindrance could this have on your life?
Will all potential employers know this?
I'd like to think employers could look passed a case of someone being in jail for smoking but I'm not sure this is the case.
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Apostle
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LobsterSauce]
#23607819 - 09/03/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh the consequences i faced if i smoked weed went far beyond a weed charge. I got a couple (violent)felonies and lost a chance to have them taken off my record for failing that drug test. But at least i stuck by my beliefs, right?
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LobsterSauce


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Apostle]
#23607833 - 09/03/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Are you actually in Florida?
By all accounts, the police and laws are unforgiving there so in that town, I would play by the rules or go elsewhere.
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CookieCrumbs
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Love_spirit]
#23607870 - 09/03/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cops will seize and test anything in a bag. I doubt they'd seize a plant that looks like it belongs to an herb garden but if it looks like a weed grow operation I'm sure they'd seize that too.
Though people have been growing and stashing weed since it was banned. It can be done, and done without all of us going to jail. But bad things happen. You have an itruder in your home and you need to call the cops... Or one of your roommates does something you'd never think they'd do and they have warrant to search your home. It's an unlikely risk but it is still a risk. And it shouldn't need to be.
Small quantities can be easily disguised but its still way, way fucking more sketchy than I'm comfortable with to "stock up"
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