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TNK
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23604583 - 09/02/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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If anything, they will isolate the active chemicals, and sell those in pill form. Along with a plethora of other innate and not so innate chemicals and fillers. Along with trade marketing and patenting the plant as a whole.
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LuSiD enthusiast
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tripp23]
#23604685 - 09/02/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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tripp23 said: ****Attention****
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Just for the record, we are beginning to win! Keep fighting!!!
**Remember to sign and share the petition in my sig!!**
I appreciate this and everything, but what exactly is happening that makes you say we are beginning to win?
(I apologize when i butcher this quote, i edited on my phone which is a pain in the ass, and wanted to save everyone from the same wall of text twice)
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morrowasted
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: ModestMouse]
#23604698 - 09/02/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
ModestMouse said: If Kratom gets banned and donald trump gets elected we will be in the dark ages
One of those things is definitely going to happen and it isn't the latter.
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CookieCrumbs
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#23604765 - 09/02/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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LuSiD enthusiast said:
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tripp23 said: ****Attention****
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Just for the record, we are beginning to win! Keep fighting!!!
**Remember to sign and share the petition in my sig!!**
I appreciate this and everything, but what exactly is happening that makes you say we are beginning to win?
(I apologize when i butcher this quote, i edited on my phone which is a pain in the ass, and wanted to save everyone from the same wall of text twice)
I was wanting to ask this too. How do u think we are winning?
I'd like to know of the specific nature of progress.
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JustForToday
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Moonshoe]
#23604820 - 09/02/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: I ordered 2 kilos of kratom before the ban, which doesn't effect Canada so far anyway.
However, if kratom became unavailable, I know drugs that i would use to replace it would potentially include:
SAMe Tianeptine Pregabalin/Gabapentin Modafinil/Armodafinil Isopropylphenidate Myrrh
Which brings me to my next question. Why is lyrica scheduled? Can anyone tell me why? I mentioned it to my doctor about trying that for anxiety rather than gabapetin in rehab and he said he couldn't give it to me.
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TNK
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: JustForToday]
#23604835 - 09/02/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Because of it's side effects and over-dose potential.
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Bigbadwooof
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Moonshoe]
#23604847 - 09/02/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: I ordered 2 kilos of kratom before the ban, which doesn't effect Canada so far anyway.
However, if kratom became unavailable, I know drugs that i would use to replace it would potentially include:
SAMe Tianeptine Pregabalin/Gabapentin Modafinil/Armodafinil Isopropylphenidate Myrrh
Have you tried any of the flouroamphetamines? Like 2-fma/2-fa?
Im considering purchasing some.
Also considering buying isopropylphenidate. I would really like to have some good stimulants around for those times when I need to get some shit done.
I used to buy a lot of ritalin and Adderall from friends, but they are not available anymore.
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Eggtimer
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23604977 - 09/02/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said:
Quote:
LuSiD enthusiast said:
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tripp23 said: ****Attention****
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Just for the record, we are beginning to win! Keep fighting!!!
**Remember to sign and share the petition in my sig!!**
I appreciate this and everything, but what exactly is happening that makes you say we are beginning to win?
(I apologize when i butcher this quote, i edited on my phone which is a pain in the ass, and wanted to save everyone from the same wall of text twice)
I was wanting to ask this too. How do u think we are winning?
I'd like to know of the specific nature of progress.
I think they just mean there are more signatures closer to the goal. That's not winning though, the petition will most likely be wrote off with a generic response sadly.
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badchad
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: JustForToday]
#23604995 - 09/02/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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JustForToday said:
Which brings me to my next question. Why is lyrica scheduled? Can anyone tell me why? I mentioned it to my doctor about trying that for anxiety rather than gabapetin in rehab and he said he couldn't give it to me.
Because it showed a positive signal for abuse in clinical trials and development.
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TNK
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Eggtimer]
#23605001 - 09/02/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Indeed, if America woke up tomorrow and signed a petition legalizing Marijuana and got over 5 million signatures, it's still hard to believe anything would change.
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musiclover420
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: TNK] 2
#23605037 - 09/02/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Even if the petition fails its a start at least. More people are being made aware of the issue and some are writing people in positions to stop this.
Its impossible to say if it will have any real impact and sadly it very well may not keep kratom from being scheduled but its better then doing nothing...
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moonrockmushy
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: musiclover420]
#23605048 - 09/02/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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True that brother.
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LuSiD enthusiast
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23605481 - 09/02/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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BUMP!
Since apparently we can't get a sticky!!!???
I would really hate if somehow a kratom eater missed all this and wanted any after the 30th.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast] 1
#23605529 - 09/02/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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45k signatures at the time of this writing. In only 4 days. God i really don't want to see it stall out.
How does this compare to previous petitions? I have no frame of reference hinestly but it looks good.
WWE MAY GET TO HEAR THE WHITE HOUSE SAY OUT LOUD "we have heard your concerns, but this is a public health crisis and as such we have decided to move foeward with the bill to temporarily place kratom as a schedule 1 narcotic until medical benefits have been proven" YIPEE
But i still have hope.
-------------------- I'm addicted to coke, weed, booze, ludes and speed. Not LSD, you can't get addicted to LSD, it was built by scientists. I ain't got no demons that gonna get woke. In erowid we trust. Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#23605541 - 09/02/16 05:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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haha nothing is going to happen if you get 450k signatures, lol. kratom, lol.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#23605545 - 09/02/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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the DEA is about to suplex the drug communities of the world, right after a stiff arm bar with the recent marijuana letdown
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Acaterpillar
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: plasma]
#23605767 - 09/02/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kratom will still be around. It's easy to conceal and hard to detect by means other than direct testing.
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I know he is trolling this thread right now, but he is right. This could get a million signatures and nothing would change.
Unfortunately the damage is already done, nothing will stop this. I didn't want to be pecimistic in this thread, but I want everyone to understand the situation at hand and make provisions for their medicine.
The stakes are really high in this game. I really hope all these good people dont end up back on heroin/pills. Please take care of yourselves.
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: danielx]
#23605782 - 09/02/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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But at least we're trying. I feel like people should be madder than they are, myself included, but this is just kinda expected with our government. Freedom hating overachieving asshats that they are.
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musiclover420
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23605943 - 09/02/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: But at least we're trying. I feel like people should be madder than they are, myself included, but this is just kinda expected with our government. Freedom hating overachieving asshats that they are.
I would be more mad if I had not seen this coming a mile away so I am mainly shocked it happened so soon.
They have been working up to this for awhile though it seems. Still a huge steaming load of though
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