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nuentoter
conduit



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Re: Forbes: DEA files for temporary scheduling of Kratom and It's bioactive components. [Re: fivepointer]
#23603985 - 09/02/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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fivepointer said: How can Congress delegate law making to a Star Chamber like the DEA? Only Congress makes laws. Totally illegal and should be challenged.
Dear filed for it, did not enact it. Anyone can file for laws, Congress gets the power to approve or not.
They will unless petitions go through.
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tripp23
Kratom Freak



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Re: Forbes: DEA files for temporary scheduling of Kratom and It's bioactive components. [Re: nuentoter]
#23604455 - 09/02/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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****Attention****
Quote:
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE OF SIGNING OFF THE EMERGENCY BAN ON KRATOM!
Email asap when possible!
Correspondence to the department, including the Attorney General, may be sent to:
U.S. Department of Justice 950 Pennsylvania Ave. NW Washington DC 20530-0001
The department may be contacted by phone at the following:
Department Comment Line: 202-353-1555 Department of Justice Main Switchboard: 202-514-2000
Peter J Kadzik Assistant Attorney General Contact Office of Legislation Affairs: 202-514-2141
Intergovernmental Affairs and Public Liaison: 202-514-3465
Michael J Lewis, Office of Diversion, Drug Enforcement Administration Administration; Mailing Address: 8701 Morrissette Drive, Springfield, Virginia, 22152 Telephone: 202-598-6812
Also please contact the assistant secretary of HHS Karen B Desalvo, MD, MPH, MSc
Acting Assistant Secretary for Health:
Email Address: ASH@hhs.gov
Telephone: 202-690-7694
Jim Esquea
Assistant Secretary for Legislation (ASL)
Telephone: 202-690-7627
Kevin Griffis
Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs (ASPA)
Telephone: 202-690-7850
Colleen Barros
Acting Assistant Secretary for Administration (ASA)
HHS Office of the Secretary
Email Address: asaio@hhs.gov
Telephone: 202-690-7431
Just for the record, we are beginning to win! Keep fighting!!!
**Remember to sign and share the petition in my sig!!**
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timelapses
Life in free form



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Re: Forbes: DEA files for temporary scheduling of Kratom and It's bioactive components. [Re: corneliushatt]
#23605149 - 09/02/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Guess changing your life around means doing things that protesting won't get you locked up to where you can't make significant changes to this corrupt system. Or maybe just some lifestyle changes.
If you are on board you have all my support as you recognize significant causes. More power to you.
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LuSiD enthusiast
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Re: Forbes: DEA files for temporary scheduling of Kratom and It's bioactive components. [Re: timelapses]
#23605486 - 09/02/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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BUMP!
Since apparently we can't get a sticky!!!???
I would really hate if somehow a kratom eater missed all this and wanted any after the 30th.
(Admittedly this thread would be lower in terms of priority than the other, but like i said right above this)
-------------------- I'm addicted to coke, weed, booze, ludes and speed. Not LSD, you can't get addicted to LSD, it was built by scientists. I ain't got no demons that gonna get woke. In erowid we trust. Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.
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Jvells
Unity



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Re: Forbes: DEA files for temporary scheduling of Kratom and It's bioactive components. [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#23605685 - 09/02/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is so so sad. Its saved me from so so much hell right now...and jst in time for classes starting up. Im astounded by how easy it was with how much h i was doing...im not using anything right now. And kratom isnt addictie for me either. Ugh, my motivational levels are top notch now too being clean. So happy and just fuck..damn dea anythin good comes around and we ban it. Didnt we learn from mj?
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Grylls



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Re: Forbes: DEA files for temporary scheduling of Kratom and It's bioactive components. [Re: Jvells]
#23605916 - 09/02/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I signed the petition and called the # for the Department of Justice comment line and left a quick story of my ex using kratom to get off heroin and myself using it to kick my alcohol/adderall dependency.
I've been following the petition and it swelled enormously in 24 hours. At least the community is there and active and I somewhat hopeful.
This is so sad. I'm a daily, one-dose user to combat my ADD and depression/anxiety. I know the DEA will laugh at the petition and will continue to push it to Schedule I status. I'm already beginning to taper off because at the end of September it will all be over.
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Konyap

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Re: Forbes: DEA files for temporary scheduling of Kratom and It's bioactive components. [Re: Grylls]
#23606214 - 09/02/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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fucking mental people want to ship you out and cart you off...
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Eywa_devotee
Goddess Worshiper


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Re: Forbes: DEA files for temporary scheduling of Kratom and It's bioactive components. [Re: Konyap]
#23606702 - 09/03/16 12:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wish that people would do what needs to be done, the tree of liberty is very dry and almost dead. It's time to water it. Enough said.
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musiclover420
psychonaut



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Re: Forbes: DEA files for temporary scheduling of Kratom and It's bioactive components. [Re: Eywa_devotee]
#23606729 - 09/03/16 12:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Screw watering it, the tree needs to get uprooted and have all its rotten parts removed, then the entire garden should be re built from the ground up before re planting it.
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BoomBoom
Nuke worker-Its a blast!



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Re: Forbes: DEA files for temporary scheduling of Kratom and It's bioactive components. [Re: musiclover420]
#23607439 - 09/03/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just took my morning dose of green vein maeng da and almost shed a damn tear at the thought of this senseless ban. It's been getting a lot of attention on Facebook recently and lots of people are asking what it is used for so I've tried to spread the good informative news as much as possible. I have successfully quit opiates with this wonderful plant.
Fuckin Freedom and shit.
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LuSiD enthusiast
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Re: Forbes: DEA files for temporary scheduling of Kratom and It's bioactive components. [Re: BoomBoom]
#23607676 - 09/03/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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BoomBoom said:
I just took my morning dose of green vein maeng da and almost shed a damn tear at the thought of this senseless ban. It's been getting a lot of attention on Facebook recently and lots of people are asking what it is used for so I've tried to spread the good informative news as much as possible. I have successfully quit opiates with this wonderful plant.
Fuckin Freedom and shit.
The sad thing is now I'm considering honestly getting some opiates shich I've used maybe 5 times in my whole life.(each time i used it once a day, no more than 2 days in a row)
Idk, my back pain became fucking unbearable after high school, i became such an anxious nervous trainwreck thay i had to drop out 2nd semester freshman uear in college. I was about to quit both my jobs over it, all this and i could never fall asleep. If i did it never felt like enough. I would sleep 20+ hours and still crave more sleep, just because sleeping meant no pain.
Then my doctor gave me xanax, i went about a month on it before i downed the whole bottle and a handful of dph hoping i would never wake up. Well i did, and had been in a hospital, gave my family a heart attack.
My immediate family wants absolutely nothing to do with me ever since this. They only txt me once every two or three months to satisfy their own sense of "obligation" and to not feel guilty. If ucking hate them.
Then I decided to try kratom one day. Ok, my life is shit and i have absolutely nothing to live for (no motivation to have sex or even find a girlfriend, yeah it would be nice but I've never seen any poind since we're all gonna end up in the dirt sometime with no warning) but this kratom is pretty good.
I started using it, i realized my life is a load of shit and i hate everything about it, but with kratom i could just put these thoughts off long enough to get through a work shift. I could finally live.
2 years of daily kratom use and i have 2 jobs (one full time one part time) and i helped a coworker start up a business. I work an average of 20 hours a day now. God work sucks but i can at least afford shit now.
Remember how i said i would sleep 20+hours and only crave more? With kratom i can work 20 hours one day, get home, eat shower and 3 hours till i have to work another 20 hours. I find that getting up and dosing a little in the middle of the night can make even a 2 hour nap feel like i slept through a full day. It's amazing.
And now it's all gone. I already plan on quitting the part time job and have no clue what to do from there.
I really don't no what I'm going to do in a couple weeks. The pain is going to come back like never before in the last 5 years and it really scares me. The thoughts are already flooding in like a waterfall that again i have nothing to live for and this time i won't even have that little bit of sunshine that let me handle these thoughts.
I really fucking hate my country and would only laugh if another 9/11 happened. Clearly our own nation doesn't give a shit about it's citizens so afaic it can go fuck itself.
-------------------- I'm addicted to coke, weed, booze, ludes and speed. Not LSD, you can't get addicted to LSD, it was built by scientists. I ain't got no demons that gonna get woke. In erowid we trust. Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.
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Jvells
Unity



Registered: 11/05/09
Posts: 3,031
Loc: East coast
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Re: Forbes: DEA files for temporary scheduling of Kratom and It's bioactive components. [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#23607827 - 09/03/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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My college teacher for a state and local government course (the ex mayor of springfield) I had to take showed up on my tv the other day running for sheriff and going on about how serious this opioid epidemic is and how we need to "start saving lives"...I emailed him about how i was in his class and how much kratom helped me...gave him the list of all the people enacting this bull (the list tripp23 gave) and sent the petition to him so he can see the sources of how it's causing deaths to rise...explained how its an antioxidant...just did the best i can man...let's hope he takes the next step if he truly cares to do some research or anything.
My next step is to email these people in tripp23's contact list. Thank you for that...
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Jvells
Unity



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Re: Forbes: DEA files for temporary scheduling of Kratom and It's bioactive components. [Re: tripp23]
#23607844 - 09/03/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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BUMP FOR IMPORTANCE
Quote:
tripp23 said: ****Attention****
Quote:
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE OF SIGNING OFF THE EMERGENCY BAN ON KRATOM!
Email asap when possible!
Correspondence to the department, including the Attorney General, may be sent to:
U.S. Department of Justice 950 Pennsylvania Ave. NW Washington DC 20530-0001
The department may be contacted by phone at the following:
Department Comment Line: 202-353-1555 Department of Justice Main Switchboard: 202-514-2000
Peter J Kadzik Assistant Attorney General Contact Office of Legislation Affairs: 202-514-2141
Intergovernmental Affairs and Public Liaison: 202-514-3465
Michael J Lewis, Office of Diversion, Drug Enforcement Administration Administration; Mailing Address: 8701 Morrissette Drive, Springfield, Virginia, 22152 Telephone: 202-598-6812
Also please contact the assistant secretary of HHS Karen B Desalvo, MD, MPH, MSc
Acting Assistant Secretary for Health:
Email Address: ASH@hhs.gov
Telephone: 202-690-7694
Jim Esquea
Assistant Secretary for Legislation (ASL)
Telephone: 202-690-7627
Kevin Griffis
Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs (ASPA)
Telephone: 202-690-7850
Colleen Barros
Acting Assistant Secretary for Administration (ASA)
HHS Office of the Secretary
Email Address: asaio@hhs.gov
Telephone: 202-690-7431
Just for the record, we are beginning to win! Keep fighting!!!
**Remember to sign and share the petition in my sig!!**
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Jvells
Unity



Registered: 11/05/09
Posts: 3,031
Loc: East coast
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Re: Forbes: DEA files for temporary scheduling of Kratom and It's bioactive components. [Re: Jvells]
#23607892 - 09/03/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I emailed the two people in that list with emails and poured by heart out about how serious this is again including facts. People please do what you can with the information provided here...this WILL SAVE LIVES.
BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE WORLD.
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