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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: Kinko]
    #23593258 - 08/30/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I dont think hurting animals makes one a sociopath. People used to treat animals far worse, and they were well functioning people

the equasion of an animal abuser to a socipath is unwarented, as its possible to not even believe animas feel in any significant sense


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23593264 - 08/30/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's retarded animals have the same organs we do ... Making us animals ourselves.


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: Kinko]
    #23593271 - 08/30/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They do, but they dont think as we do and cant suffer as we do.


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23593970 - 08/30/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's an awfully sure position to say animals don't think and feel the same as us.  Can you prove that with facts?


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23594012 - 08/30/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's an awfully sure position to say animals don't think and feel the same as us.  Can you prove that with facts?



See, when someone asks for 'proof' of a philisophical position it shows they are just trying to attack and make the other look like a fool.

Most animals cant conceptualize at all. I could understand maybe arguing for certain species.
They cant think complex thoughts because ther is noone inside to talk to. Humans talk to themselves with their mind. Animal communication is not language. People say it is because we like to project. Animal comuication is signals
without the ability to conceptualize, you cant form an identity, you cant thing through problems, you are just a reacting machine.

Ive explained it a few other times here too

Id probably still do something if this type of action came into my presence though.
maybe it is just evil in an inexplainable way

stil, we are terribly inconsistan in how we decide what cruelty to animals is


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #23594028 - 08/30/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's an awfully sure position to say animals don't think and feel the same as us.  Can you prove that with facts?



See, when someone asks for 'proof' of a philisophical position it shows they are just trying to attack and make the other look like a fool.




It worked.


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23594031 - 08/30/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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They do, but they dont think as we do and cant suffer as we do.



they can't suffer like we do?

:facepalm: no. wrong.


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23594032 - 08/30/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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specialpeopleclub said:
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abltsandwich said:
That's an awfully sure position to say animals don't think and feel the same as us.  Can you prove that with facts?



See, when someone asks for 'proof' of a philisophical position it shows they are just trying to attack and make the other look like a fool.

Most animals cant conceptualize at all. I could understand maybe arguing for certain species.
They cant think complex thoughts because ther is noone inside to talk to. Humans talk to themselves with their mind. Animal communication is not language. People say it is because we like to project. Animal comuication is signals
without the ability to conceptualize, you cant form an identity, you cant thing through problems, you are just a reacting machine.

Ive explained it a few other times here too

Id probably still do something if this type of action came into my presence though.
maybe it is just evil in an inexplainable way

stil, we are terribly inconsistan in how we decide what cruelty to animals is




We talk to ourselves because that's a way to interpret the world.

An animal can think about the world. Maybe they don't talk to themselves but what's your point? They're still conscious.


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23594037 - 08/30/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:doublefacepalm:


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23594053 - 08/30/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

suffering in you mind and the pain of injury are differant things

an injured animal wants to survive, but an injured human wants to survive bcause he knows the consequences of death and loosing their future also



I think most of our sympathy for animals is projection and an emotional reaction

Id like to hear this 'other way'


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23594056 - 08/30/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i don't care about what it wants. i care about what it feels, and it feels pain...like if i smacked you in the fact, specialpeopleclub...you'd feel pain, right? like i take my hand and WHACK backhand your face...there's pain.

same with the dog.


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23594057 - 08/30/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Id like to hear this 'other way'




You have a track record for lacking observation and an inability to accept anything which doesn't align with your preconceived notions.

Not worth the time.


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23594060 - 08/30/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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differant




Wow!

I'll take a #4 with a large fries, and no ice in the Dr Pepper please.


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23594091 - 08/30/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I can see the argument for pain being significant. Im not sure how bad pain is without knowledge of the pain
Its like, you break an arm, and the pain of the arm isnt much, but the knowledge of being crippled is painful

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Id like to hear this 'other way'




You have a track record for lacking observation and an inability to accept anything which doesn't align with your preconceived notions.

Not worth the time.



It isnt preconcieved. I used to feel the other way. I was a vegan for a while.


so many insults. I dont spell the best, my intellegence must be so low
I feel so stupid


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23594175 - 08/30/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

knowledge of the pain is a gating mechanism. if you beat an animal, it cowers does it not? it defends itself, given the right creature.

methinks you are incorrect on your assertions specialpeopleclub. you changed once...you shouldn't have such a problem taking into account that you're flagrantly wrong; and that even if you had a point somewhere, you aren't able to make it clear and assertive, or prove it's correct.


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: timelapses]
    #23594355 - 08/30/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

couldnt read the article but he sounds like a douchebag. No death sentence for sure, but I would suggest a one-way ticket on a boat to Antarctica.


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23595582 - 08/30/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

this is nuts, I can't believe someone can go to prison for ten years for killing a dog. there's your nanny government taking care of its beloved citizens.


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: timelapses]
    #23595604 - 08/30/16 09:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I hate seeing people abuse animals, shit really gets to me.  I love animals, all of them.


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23595620 - 08/30/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I can see the argument for pain being significant. Im not sure how bad pain is without knowledge of the pain
Its like, you break an arm, and the pain of the arm isnt much, but the knowledge of being crippled is painful

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Repertoire89 said:
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specialpeopleclub said:

Id like to hear this 'other way'




You have a track record for lacking observation and an inability to accept anything which doesn't align with your preconceived notions.

Not worth the time.



It isnt preconcieved. I used to feel the other way. I was a vegan for a while.


so many insults. I dont spell the best, my intellegence must be so low
I feel so stupid



Bruh didn't you know dolphins are smarter than humans but get slaughtered like dogs ( pun intended ) by the japenese ?


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Re: Stupid fuck sprayes lysol in a puppy and kills it over a dispute with girlfriend [Re: Kinko]
    #23595702 - 08/30/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm really glad I don't know many people because if I see something like this happening I would give props to the offender perhaps relate to him I abused animals as well ( ninja turtle )    let him beat the animal no problem , make the illusion that I am his friend perhaps an accomplice, then when he would be by himself walking I would hit him beside the head , drag him to a secure location and kill him slowly..    Its rather easy to get away with murder if you have a clear mind and wear protective clothing g.



I am going to kill someone in a few hours and could use your pro tips. DM me.


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