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#23592125 - 08/30/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Two questions i have about the differences of LSD and mushrooms [Re: ruaware] 1
#23592177 - 08/30/16 12:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I always liked the analogy of being in the driver's seat (LSD) versus the passenger seat (Mushrooms). (And let's not forget the trunk: DMT )
Mushrooms are like an experience that is happening to you, or is being forced upon you. Mushrooms are more about a loss of control, a loss of energy and motivation, and a loss of mental control. The visuals are MUCH more geometric to say the least. The visuals are much more simplistic and less dramatic, yet at high doses the intensity of visual alteration is completely insane. Whole surfaces on mushrooms can turn into bright neon glowing shapes and patterns. A room can stretch out visually until it looks like something is hundreds of feet away. Open eye flashes of visuals of geometric images are common at higher doses.
Mushrooms are also deeply, deeply mentally altering, perhaps more deeply mentally altering than anything else I've tried. Mindfuck is more intense on mushrooms than on any other psychedelic I've tried by far. They also have an enormous emotional range including experiencing overlapping and paradoxical emotions (like scared and calm, happy and sad). I also personally find music to be extremely enhanced on mushrooms, much more so than other psychedelics.
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Re: Two questions i have about the differences of LSD and mushrooms [Re: nooneman]
#23592185 - 08/30/16 01:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I always thought it was funny when people say lsd is like schizophrenia. I mean i get where your coming from, but have you ever been schizophrenic? And if you have wouldn't that comoletely change how you experience lsd to the point that it would be hard to take your word for it?
Again, i totally get where your coming from (I've said the same on my hardest trips), but at the end of the day, if you haven't been schizophrenic i don't think you can really compare it to anything else.
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Re: Two questions i have about the differences of LSD and mushrooms [Re: ruaware]
#23592242 - 08/30/16 01:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes and no, I would say no, but there are similarities. The mindfuck on mushrooms gets so intense that at high enough doses it eventually completely annihilates your ability to control your own thoughts or think at all in general.
It's like being swept up into a mental tornado or a hurricane, and eventually losing all control and being totally overrun by uncontrollable mindfuck thoughts.
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Re: Two questions i have about the differences of LSD and mushrooms [Re: ruaware] 1
#23592335 - 08/30/16 03:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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In that case yeah they're kinda similar. I would say acid makes me feel like I'm getting closer and closer to the answer, where as shrooms make me feel like i had a bag put over my head, i was drove around the block, i saw the answer, got knocked out, then woke back up right where i started and i can't quite put what i saw into words or how i got there.
Like acid lets you consciously get so fucking close to it but you don't see it. Shrooms knock you unconscious, plants the answer in your brain for a minute, then completely wipes the answer from your memory.
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Re: Two questions i have about the differences of LSD and mushrooms [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#23592379 - 08/30/16 03:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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LuSiD enthusiast said: shrooms make me feel like i had a bag put over my head, i was drove around the block, i saw the answer, got knocked out, then woke back up right where i started and i can't quite put what i saw into words or how i got there.

This is seriously one of the most accurate descriptions I've ever read.
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Re: 3 questions i have about the differences of LSD and mushrooms [Re: ruaware] 1
#23593495 - 08/30/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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ruaware said: Question 1: Would you guys say the mental effects during the trip are different on LSD and mushrooms? I've only ever taken LSD, and its great and magical, but at the same time its very similar to i guess what i would assume is schizophrenia and insanity. It has a lot of similarities. I could totally imagine a schizophrenic or insane persons brain working this way. The irrational thought, and craziness... its just so similar. Especially the speed and chaos. Feels like insanity, is the best way i can say it
First off no they are considerably different mentally you can read the differences between the two on these pages here (subjective effects) and no you're not going to find a more accurate website or list of effects so you might as well read it and pay attention.
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/LSD https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Psilocin
Second off LSD does not give anything even close to what someone with schizophrenia would have. This isn't the 1950s anymore we know precisely what LSD does now. If you want to experience something like what people with psychosis or schizophrenia have take Datura or Benadryl. Even a lot of weed has more in common with psychosis, now LSD can give you delusions but this doesn't seem to be a psychotomimetic effect really it seems more based on one's imagination running wild and projecting itself on one's perception.
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Question 2: Are colors different on LSD and shrooms? on LSD i see a lot of separated colors. Like the pink floyd album cover of the light going through a prism. Or if you look at the reply section of the post there will be a red letter A, and next to it a rectangle with separated colors. I get a lot of that on LSD. It also kind of reminds me of the RGB color scheme. It gives the whole trip a very, very, very artificial tone. Or at least when you notice it.. I posted an image of it as well. Its something thats hard to describe, but if anyone else has had it, they'll know what i'm talking about.
I'd say overall mushrooms are much more colorful and the colors are definitely brighter and more saturated. On LSD the colors are more radiant and full of light; more effulgent.
I get more color shifting on mushrooms and just more colors in general, there's more of an iridescent effect with psilocybin not to mention at night the colors are much more luminous than with acid, more glow in the dark. Glow sticks are awesome on mushrooms and even in the daytime colors in general can feel so deep and intense that you can almost taste them.
On mushrooms the colors are more variegated and just overall more motley and abundant.
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edit: Question 3: I just saw another thread where someone said LSD is like "Cracking the code, finding the key, waking up, figuring it out, beating the system, rising with the tide. Sometimes calm and collected, other times messianic and manic." - this is EXACTLY how LSD feels for me and i really don't like it
And he says shrooms are like "Moments of spiritual bliss followed by bouts of analytic thought. An innocence about my thinking, a feeling of wonder at things like deep time, the universe, the beauty of a tree. Very zen like, aesthetic." - which sounds like what i'm looking for.
Would anyone else agree with this?
Yes that was a pretty apt description I think of LSD. Acid in a way feels more "unlatching" and just like a surging rush. Mushrooms are much more disclosing and epiphanic and the mushroom itself is engaged with you and there with you the entire time, the difference is that mushrooms actually has a mind of its own and it doesn't feel very earthly at all which is usually the most surprising part to most people. The shroom trip is a guided journey and LSD is most definitely not a guided journey.
Mushrooms are more alien and flowing, more beautiful and HD. It feels like exploring or traveling.
I'd say LSD is better for aesthetics and things like art, music and nature. As well as things like energies and vibrations and whatnot. It has a sort of Hindu vibe and is in some sense more bucolic and rustic. LSD feels more personal in some way and is what most people I think "expect" a profound experience to be. They never expected something like mushrooms though; so emotional, meaningful and beautiful yet so zany and elfin, so otherworldly and so full of eerieness. It cracks jokes and there's chattering, double entendre puns and child-like transdimensional jokes and behavior...trickery. Contradictions that will make your headspin if you think about them and utter confusion and strange dreamy architectonic forms.
Much more emotional, dynamic and 'alive' than an LSD trip which has much more continuity throughout.
Edited by AuroraBorealis88 (08/30/16 02:50 PM)
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Re: 3 questions i have about the differences of LSD and mushrooms [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23593512 - 08/30/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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And no the midnfuck is completely different on shrooms that's what helps sets them apart. Mushrooms are very garbled in the trip in the beginning and have more noticeable stages than LSD.
The mindfuck with LSD is more cyclic, melty/liquidy, perceptual, disorganized, and cartoony
The mindfuck with Mushrooms is more ambiguous, perplexing, familiar, bizarre, alien, eerie, hypnotic and climatic.
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Re: 3 questions i have about the differences of LSD and mushrooms [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23594676 - 08/30/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I concur with a lot of what AuroraB said in both of those posts ^^^...
I was going to chime in with some similar things, but dude put it into words better then I could have.
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