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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
    #23613471 - 09/05/16 01:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Sorry but that stuff is just nutter. I've been watching Alex jones recently since trump seems to be getting some of his material from Infowars. The guy is an entertainer. He's very creative with facts. (Like "Bernie Sanders lawyer killed right after launching lawsuit" is really "low level legal assistant dies right after serving DNC with lawsuit filed by his employer.") if you dig into their stories, they are full of misrepresentations like thaf.

As soon as I hear the word globalist, I tune out... I know I'm about to get a heavy dose of wild imagination.




LOLOLOL....... so a legal team's assistant died, not even the actual attorney, and they made some big conspiracy out of it? :lolsy:




Are you talking about Shawn Lucas? And if so, you're going to just gloss over the fact that he did indeed serve a class-action lawsuit to the DNC Services Corp. and Chairperson Debbie Wasserman Schultz at the DNC's headquarters in Washington, D.C.?? And you don't find it just slightly too coincidental or oddly fishy that he was found laying dead on his bathroom floor by his girlfriend shortly thereafter? And instead of letting that information penetrate and wash over you, you instead want to nitpick Alex Jone's for colloquially referring to him as Bernie Sander's lawyer? Good God, man. Talk about frivolous details. Anything you can do to avoid having to assess the rest of the information, eh?

What do you think about the DNC staffer, Seth Rich, an alleged Wikileaks source, who was murdered near his home in D.C.? Or do you think his murder was yet another coincidental occurrence of untimely death?


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    #23613472 - 09/05/16 01:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Great Scott]
    #23613480 - 09/05/16 01:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Are you talking about Shawn Lucas? And if so, you're going to just gloss over the fact that he did indeed serve a class-action lawsuit to the DNC Services Corp. and Chairperson Debbie Wasserman Schultz at the DNC's headquarters in Washington, D.C.?? And you don't find it just slightly too coincidental or oddly fishy that he was found laying dead on his bathroom floor by his girlfriend shortly thereafter? And instead of letting that information penetrate and wash over you, you instead want to nitpick Alex Jone's for colloquially referring to him as Bernie Sander's lawyer? Good God, man. Talk about frivolous details. Anything you can do to avoid having to assess the rest of the information, eh?

What do you think about the DNC staffer, Seth Rich, an alleged Wikileaks source, who was murdered near his home in D.C.? Or do you think his murder was yet another coincidental occurrence of untimely death?




You're talking about this guy?

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Some versions of the rumor tried to associate Lucas with a sinister plot linked to Hillary Clinton by asserting that he was the "lead attorney" in the DNC lawsuit, but he was just one of the process servers who delivered papers to a DNC office. (Lucas was named in a motion [PDF] filed on 22 July 2016 by the DNC, seeking to dismiss the suit on partial grounds of improper service.) What anyone would have to gain by retroactively murdering a process server remained unexplained by conspiracy theorists.




http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/04/dnc-lawsuit-process-server-shawn-lucas-has-died/

So it's not even the lead attorney that died, it was just one of the smaller guys on the legal team. If they were going to assassinate somebody, you would think they would choose the person who is actually responsible for serving that lawsuit.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Hobozen]
    #23613494 - 09/05/16 01:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Word. I gotta decompress and listen to some tunes after all this fruitless firing of truth torpedoes at Kood's impenetrable brick wall of libtardation.



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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
    #23613496 - 09/05/16 01:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, and Snopes has an article about Seth Rich too.

Apparently when Seth was found, he was not only alive, but conscious and breathing at the time of the shooting. Surely he would have stated or told the police officers that this was the work of hit men.

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Police reported that Rich was conscious and breathing at the time of the shooting. Had he any information about his murder having been a set-up, he likely would have conveyed such to attending officer before he died of his wounds shortly thereafter.




Not only that, but according to the phone conversation he had with his girlfriend just moments before he was shot, he was headed home. Not to an FBI meeting in the middle of the night on Saturday like rumors supposedly claim.

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Immediately after that portion, the article quoted the elder Rich regarding the moments prior to his son's death. According to Joel Rich, Seth was on the phone with his girlfriend when the shooting started, and Rich indicated to his girlfriend that he was nearly home and not headed out for an FBI meeting implausibly scheduled in the middle of the night on a Saturday




The original source that perpetuated this claim is also known to have falsified several other stories about assassinations that never happened

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Rich was the second deceased individual "connected" to Clinton by WhatDoesItMean.com and the third inaccurately reported as endangered by the candidate. The same outlet falsely claimed hacker Guccifer (Marcel Lazăr Lehel) was missing and presumed dead after he purportedly hacked into Clinton's e-mail, and just prior to that the site claimed former UN official John Ashe had been murdered on the eve of his providing scheduled testimony against Clinton. Guccifer was confirmed alive and well by officials at the facility in which he was housed, and a federal prosecutor's office affirmed Ashe's legal troubles were in no way connected to Clinton.




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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
    #23613551 - 09/05/16 01:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Are you talking about Shawn Lucas? And if so, you're going to just gloss over the fact that he did indeed serve a class-action lawsuit to the DNC Services Corp. and Chairperson Debbie Wasserman Schultz at the DNC's headquarters in Washington, D.C.?? And you don't find it just slightly too coincidental or oddly fishy that he was found laying dead on his bathroom floor by his girlfriend shortly thereafter? And instead of letting that information penetrate and wash over you, you instead want to nitpick Alex Jone's for colloquially referring to him as Bernie Sander's lawyer? Good God, man. Talk about frivolous details. Anything you can do to avoid having to assess the rest of the information, eh?

What do you think about the DNC staffer, Seth Rich, an alleged Wikileaks source, who was murdered near his home in D.C.? Or do you think his murder was yet another coincidental occurrence of untimely death?




You're talking about this guy?

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Some versions of the rumor tried to associate Lucas with a sinister plot linked to Hillary Clinton by asserting that he was the "lead attorney" in the DNC lawsuit, but he was just one of the process servers who delivered papers to a DNC office. (Lucas was named in a motion [PDF] filed on 22 July 2016 by the DNC, seeking to dismiss the suit on partial grounds of improper service.) What anyone would have to gain by retroactively murdering a process server remained unexplained by conspiracy theorists.




http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/04/dnc-lawsuit-process-server-shawn-lucas-has-died/

So it's not even the lead attorney that died, it was just one of the smaller guys on the legal team. If they were going to assassinate somebody, you would think they would choose the person who is actually responsible for serving that lawsuit.




Just FYI, Snopes is not an authority on anything. It's a mom and pop operation started by a husband and wife who have no formal background or experience in investigative research. They basically just use google like everybody else. And it's been found to post a lot of false findings. The main political writer/fact checker is a woman named Kim Lacapria who is a liberal leftist hack just like you. So that's your echo chamber in action. :smirk:

It's true that Shawn Lucas was a lawsuit processor, not a lawyer. And it's true that he served the lawsuit to the DNC. And it's true that he wound up dead on his bathroom floor for some fucking reason. I'm not saying I'm 100% positive that he got whacked, just that when you factor in that this is yet another mysterious death in a long list of deaths associated with Hillary Clinton's political career... it's at the very least what most discerning people would consider as being a bit fishy.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
    #23613567 - 09/05/16 02:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Great Scott]
    #23613570 - 09/05/16 02:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Just FYI, Snopes is not an authority on anything. It's a mom and pop operation started by a husband and wife who have no formal background or experience in investigative research. They basically just use google like everybody else. And it's been found to post a lot of false findings. The main political writer/fact checker is a woman named Kim Lacapria who is a liberal leftist hack just like you. So that's your echo chamber in action. :smirk:




They don't just "use google" like everyone else. In the case of Shawn Lucas they contacted his employer and the DC Metro Police. In the case of Seth Rich, they sourced the DC Police's press release, and contacted the department. It's not like they just make shit up, they investigate and source materials and cite their sources like any journalist is SUPPOSED to do.

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It's true that Shawn Lucas was a lawsuit processor, not a lawyer. And it's true that he served the lawsuit to the DNC. And it's true that he wound up dead on his bathroom floor for some fucking reason. I'm not saying I'm 100% positive that he got whacked, just that when you factor in that this is yet another mysterious death in a long list of deaths associated with Hillary Clinton's political career... it's at the very least what most discerning people would consider as being a bit fishy.




You mean another death, just like hacker Guccifer, who was found alive and not dead after all?

What would Clinton have to gain by killing a processor? We're talking about some low-level guy who is easily replaced by anybody, not the person who was the brains behind the operation.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Great Scott]
    #23613576 - 09/05/16 02:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Snopes:burke:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/17/fact-checking-snopes-websites-political-fact-checker-is-just-a-failed-liberal-blogger/

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/

http://accuracyinpolitics.blogspot.com/2013/05/snopes-got-snoped.html

There's more where that came from too. I'm not the only one who's called them out on their shit. They're just another leftist shill outlet.




That's very, very convenient, and a tactic that is commonly displayed by conservatives.

If you don't like a source because it disputes your findings, simply call it "liberal media," and dismiss everything that way.

It's way too convenient and allows them to pretty much dismiss anything they don't like for practically no reason at all.

In this case, these articles are simply dismissing Snopes because the author is "a Democrat."

That's just like me dismissing every single site you show me simply because they're "conservative," instead of actually reading and looking into what the article is saying. Do you not realize how ridiculous and all-too convenient that is?

The third one about them just using Google is simply flat-out incorrect. They do actual investigations where they contact other newspapers or departments in order to investigate stories.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
    #23613586 - 09/05/16 02:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quick. Hide your staplers, put Kevlar over the photocopier. Who knows when Clintons reign of blood will end!!!


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
    #23613587 - 09/05/16 02:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Apparently when Seth was found, he was not only alive, but conscious and breathing at the time of the shooting. Surely he would have stated or told the police officers that this was the work of hit men.





The thing about cover-ups is that they're, you know, covered up. It was declared a mugging and nothing was stolen from him. But whatever, without first hand information, we will likely never really know exactly what all took place. I do know that the bars closed well before 4:19 AM and he was within 30 minutes walking distance to his home. There's an elapsed time of around 90 minutes between closing time and when he was supposedly shot. It's definitely fishy. And again, if you look at this in combination with the long list of alleged Clinton deaths, the cumulative coincidence factor is hard not to notice.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Great Scott]
    #23613603 - 09/05/16 02:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I do know that the bars closed well before 4:19 AM and he was within 30 minutes walking distance to his home. There's an elapsed time of around 90 minutes between closing time and when he was supposedly shot. It's definitely fishy. And again, if you look at this in combination with the long list of alleged Clinton deaths, the cumulative coincidence factor is hard not to notice.




So, what are you suggesting? That he was out at the bars drinking till 2AM, then met with some seedy FBI agent at 3 or 4 in the morning on a Saturday night?

He could have simply gone to grab food after the bar closed like so many drunks do. I always stand in line at the taco truck after the bars close for at least an hour before I even get to place my order in.

Don't you think if he were being assassinated, that they would have taken some belongings to make it look like a real mugging, then thrown away his belongings in a trash bin a few miles away? We're talking about trained professionals here, that know how to make a murder look authentic. These aren't your average, run of the mill $5,000 hit-man.

Yeah, let's go through that body count. We already went through Seth Rich and Shawn Lucas.

There's John Ashe - Ashe was only scheduled to attend some standard pre-trial meetings. Apparently the claim that he was set to testify against Clinton originated from conspiracy blog writer Sorcha Faal.

There's Victor Thorn, who is simply the author of many conspiracy books perpetuating things such as Holocaust Denial, that Israel was responsible for 9/11, and all his books on Clinton were similarly based on rumor, hearsay, and conspiracy theory. Why they would choose to kill him and not the thousands of other conspiracy nutters out there who knows. Not many people even know of this guy's work.

The only one of these deaths that is remotely suspicious is Gareth Williams, who was an actual M16 spy found naked and stuffed inside a duffel bag with a padlock on the outside. But of course, the only connection he has to Clinton is that he "once hacked into Bill Clinton's secret data." More likely he was assassinated, but it had to do with his work being an M16 spy.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
    #23613611 - 09/05/16 02:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Don't you think if he were being assassinated, that they would have taken some belongings to make it look like a real mugging, then thrown away his belongings in a trash bin a few miles away? We're talking about trained professionals here, that know how to make a murder look authentic. These aren't your average, run of the mill $5,000 hit-man.




Furthermore, this is what his own mother said:

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“There had been a struggle. His hands were bruised, his knees are bruised, his face is bruised, and yet he had two shots to his back, and yet they never took anything,” his mother, Mary Rich, told NBC News.




Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/3363073/was-seth-conrad-rich-murdered-for-exposing-election-fraud-conspiracy-theories-build-after-death-of-young-dnc-staffer/#qzMoDxsr5U66zLsz.99

Does that sound like the work of a hit man to you? To waste time and endanger yourself by possibly getting caught by engaging in a struggle and fighting with that person before shooting them?


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
    #23613625 - 09/05/16 02:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You're right, it's all a vast right wing conspiracy meant to bring down the saintly Hillary Clinton, the beloved philanthropist and defender of innocents. All this is just a vain attempt to stop her from making the world a better place for everyone. Now go to your Globalist Overlords and be one with the borg. I'm out.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Great Scott]
    #23613631 - 09/05/16 03:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No seriously, does that sound like the work of a hit man to you?

Signs of a struggle, bruising all over his face and hands and knees. THAT sounds like a professional hit to you? :lol:


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Great Scott]
    #23613985 - 09/05/16 07:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Apparently when Seth was found, he was not only alive, but conscious and breathing at the time of the shooting. Surely he would have stated or told the police officers that this was the work of hit men.





The thing about cover-ups is that they're, you know, covered up. It was declared a mugging and nothing was stolen from him. But whatever, without first hand information, we will likely never really know exactly what all took place. I do know that the bars closed well before 4:19 AM and he was within 30 minutes walking distance to his home. There's an elapsed time of around 90 minutes between closing time and when he was supposedly shot. It's definitely fishy. And again, if you look at this in combination with the long list of alleged Clinton deaths, the cumulative coincidence factor is hard not to notice.




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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
    #23614071 - 09/05/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Seems like he just chose to stiff every single person that worked on Trump's Taj Mahal, because his businesses ended up not doing so well. The fact that he stiffed the piano guy and the guy who built the elephant statues tells me it's not a matter of shoddy or imperfect work.





it's kinda strange that you arent even concerned with how clinton does business.
so trump offered some folks less than originally agreed since his business was
tanking, that's better than just outright fucking them and since they accepted
those payment they had agreed to that as opposed to suing him to get the full
amount. just like the architect that didnt place a lien against the work he did
for trump, these things make it all more suspect


now the clintons, they're some dirty folks and somehow with everyone seeing prison
or probation, the arkansas mafia leaders did not, even though they destroyed
evidence, something hillay is certainly well known for now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_controversy

let's not forget how the clintins that were heavily involved with the S&Ls managed
to get them a $600 million payout from the government that was never repaid and
those savings and loan institutions still failed, it reminds me of the time Obama
gave a similar amount to a private company, it failed 2 years later and the obama
administration took all the documents before the FBI could confiscate them, then
of course there Chinagate, Travelgate, the cattle futures and countless others


for someone that isnt voting you sure as hell seem to be campaigning against trump
without even looking into his opponent


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
    #23614083 - 09/05/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Snopes:burke:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/17/fact-checking-snopes-websites-political-fact-checker-is-just-a-failed-liberal-blogger/

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/

http://accuracyinpolitics.blogspot.com/2013/05/snopes-got-snoped.html

There's more where that came from too. I'm not the only one who's called them out on their shit. They're just another leftist shill outlet.




That's very, very convenient, and a tactic that is commonly displayed by conservatives.

If you don't like a source because it disputes your findings, simply call it "liberal media," and dismiss everything that way.





it was learned from the liberals...






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In this case, these articles are simply dismissing Snopes because the author is "a Democrat."






does snopes have a slant on political issues?

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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Great Scott]
    #23614127 - 09/05/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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PeyoteZen said:You see, that's exactly your problem. You're closed minded and your programming is set to react that way without even giving it any further thought or inquiry. Would it make you feel any better if he used Nigel Farage's words and said "International Order". Or how about if he listed them all off as "The United Nations, The Council on Foreign Relations, International Banking Corporations, etc." and the dozens of other titles that this consortium consists of. You would be extremely naive to think that a Transnational Power Structure doesn't exist, and even more naive to think that they wouldn't drop the facade of benevolence and go full on global totalitarianism when given the right opportunity. It's been slowly building and consolidating power for quite a while now. You really, truly need to wake the fuck up and quit playing dumb, Koods.




When speaking to people you can't assume listen/read the same things you do, it would really help to
define "International Order/NWO/Globalist conspiracy" as "The UN, Council on For. Rel., etc." Using
niche jargon without defining it doesn't assist in communication or help your case.

How is Trump, with a business that is decidedly international, not a globalist?

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Best case scenario = Hillary Clinton is all of those things and more.




I disagree. Decades of intense scrutiny haven't convinced me that she is any of the negative things
Trump prides himself on. Trump is quite thoroughly immoral in my view, based merely on the things
written in his books. Clinton on the other hand has practically been raised in a vat to be our President.
She has shit tons of relevant experience and the proven ability to compromise and actually lead Congress (Obama's biggest flaw,
Clinton won't waste time crying to the American people about the meanies in Congress; she'll be bashing heads),
she has been a longtime advocate for women and children (you know how secretive and powerful children are in the NWO),
numerous diplomatic achievements, and political views far more in line with my own than Trump's.

I do disagree with her on some key points, and so my vote goes to Gary Johnson.

@CrystalG, I do hope you find a candidate you like and vote for them. It makes a much bigger difference
to a third-party candidate than it does to Trump/Clinton. By staying home, you convey dis-interest, which is
clearly not the case given your participation here.

@Pris, you have a rather optimistic view of how the civil court system works.

Win or lose, the Clintons are and will continue to be a staple of conspiracy theories just like the Kennedy's, Waco, and 9/11.
That doesn't convince any reasonable person there is anything of worth there, quite the opposite.
The rabid claims made by tin hat wearing conspiracy theorists acts as a protective cloak to the Clintons and in the ultimate
sense, will be partly responsible for the misbehavior undergone beneath this cloak. Just as the boy was responsible when he
was eaten by the wolf.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crumist]
    #23614253 - 09/05/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

if i was an American, i'd look around and see how conservatives and republicans and the alt-right act on the right, and how the SJWs and feminazis and cultural Marxists on the left act, and shoot myself.


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