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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #23592032 - 08/29/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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But if we build a massive wall we'll get only the most athletic of the bunch :vaped:




I hate Trump, but I like this idea.

Fuck the wall, let's build an obstacle course and make this a reality TV show. :awesomenod:

USA! USA! USA!




Basically a pole-vaulting audition.  Who wants to be an Olympian?

If they can jump over, then they get citizenship, and we get to send them to the Olympics for us.  It's a win-win!


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23592036 - 08/29/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Did anyone see that female swimmer that iced the competition? I didnt catch much of the Olympics this time around because of rio being the shit hole it is, but I saw that, and I was fucking blown away by the lead she managed to get on everyone.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23592046 - 08/29/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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But if we build a massive wall we'll get only the most athletic of the bunch :vaped:




You see, this is something I can get behind, because this:

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specialpeopleclub said:The Great Wall didnt work anyway




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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23592088 - 08/29/16 11:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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It's only predominantly white nations where people push for diversity and open borders.




Yet its the whites that attempt to kill everyone periodically. Throughout history and even today, when you look at incidents of mass shootings and whatnot.

and something thats slightly related, America media is even starting to talk about the "Alt-right" aka neo-nazism. Makes me uneasy thinking about how your media outlets are actually taking the time to lend credence to a thinly veiled supremacist movement.




"Thinly veiled supremacist movement"? Lol, what? American media is the opposite of white supremacy movements, it's sometimes almost like white people are supposed to be embarrassed or ashamed to be white or something. Idk what you're talking about. Was this supposed to counter my comment that it really is only European countries, America, and Canada that are under such pressure to let in immigrants and welcome "diversity", even at their own expense? Because it didn't. I know you have a grudge against whitey because you're First Nation (even though your people weren't in North America first either) but you gotta realize, the things I'm saying are only called "white supremacist" when a white guy is saying it. White people aren't the only ones who realize it.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Eminence] * 1
    #23592098 - 08/29/16 11:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I never heard of any one other then a white person speak of this supposed "shame" we all want you to feel. Where does this idea even stem from?


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23592110 - 08/30/16 12:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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China's wall kept out the pillagers and rapists.
Trumps wall just wants to keep out the people trying to cut your grass at a bargain rate




oh... those people






Why did you post a picture of black people, it's clear that they are Americans and not illegal immigrants :facepalm:


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Eminence]
    #23592117 - 08/30/16 12:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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It's only predominantly white nations where people push for diversity and open borders.




No... it's not... first off, no countries have "open borders" in the way you're describing it.

If you're referring to the Schengen agreement, that is only for people within the EU to be able to travel freely to any other country in the EU.

Similar to how Mexico has a similar "open border" agreement with America, they allow Americans to travel freely without any visa documentation for purposes of tourism, even though a lot of Americans going to their country are criminals and fugitives who are escaping the law.

India and Nepal also have similar open border policies with each other.

If you look up top 10 immigrant-friendly countries (and by immigrant-friendly, they mean ones with the loosest immigration laws), and some of the countries in the top 10 list include Singapore, United Arab Emirates, Brazil, and Israel.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23592135 - 08/30/16 12:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The truth is, if the USA wanted to completely get rid of illegal immigrants, they could have done this years ago. They could have abolished cash money, and implemented credit-card style transactions anywhere you go. Think a system like Google Wallet or Apple Pay, where you use your mobile phone or a credit card to not only receive your paycheck, but to pay back your neighbor $50, or pay for a class, or even tip a stripper. We might already be in the stages of this happening, in fact.

And if you make it so only people with a valid social security number, or a valid tax ID or visa number could be part of these payment systems, that pretty much solves the illegal immigration problem right there.

Not only that, but this system would also have gotten rid of tax evasion, along with a host of other problems.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
    #23592153 - 08/30/16 12:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I am pretty sure the Mongolians were more of a threat to China, at the time, than Mexico or Mexicans currently are to the United States of America.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Shroomopotamus] * 1
    #23592155 - 08/30/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

One's an ancient wall that still stand to this day.  The other's an imaginary wall that will never be built.  :shrug:


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
    #23592161 - 08/30/16 12:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The truth is, if the USA wanted to completely get rid of illegal immigrants, they could have done this years ago. They could have abolished cash money, and implemented credit-card style transactions anywhere you go. Think a system like Google Wallet or Apple Pay, where you use your mobile phone or a credit card to not only receive your paycheck, but to pay back your neighbor $50, or pay for a class, or even tip a stripper. We might already be in the stages of this happening, in fact.

And if you make it so only people with a valid social security number, or a valid tax ID or visa number could be part of these payment systems, that pretty much solves the illegal immigration problem right there.

Not only that, but this system would also have gotten rid of tax evasion, along with a host of other problems.



Similar to what I've been saying for years. People come here illegally because there is incentive. Too many focus on how to get rid of people who are already here, instead of focusing on ways to minimize incentive and prevent illegal immigration more rationally.

Making stricter labor laws for hiring of foreign workers would help tremendously as well. It would take very little time to really take effect if enforced.

It's far more logical to me than the idea of building walls and rounding people up for deportation, would be far cheaper to enforce, and is perfectly humane.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23592170 - 08/30/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Similar to what I've been saying for years. People come here illegally because there is incentive. Too many focus on how to get rid of people who are already here, instead of focusing on ways to minimize incentive and prevent illegal immigration more rationally.

Making stricter labor laws for hiring of foreign workers would help tremendously as well. It would take very little time to really take effect if enforced.

It's far more logical to me than the idea of building walls and rounding people up for deportation, would be far cheaper to enforce, and is perfectly humane.




Yeah, the problem is, a lot of illegal aliens usually don't work fast food or at any corporation that pays with a check. Usually companies that pay with a check are very strict about who they hire, you have to have a valid social security number to be employed by them.

Instead, they work jobs like picking fruit for farmers and construction work and things like that, who pay below minimum wage in cash. So you would have to have a team of people surveillancing the employees, and coming to verify all their documentation at these types of places.

It can be done, but I don't know how cheap it would be to enforce.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23592178 - 08/30/16 12:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Tell that to Texas, California, Arazona. We dont know how many illegals there are. They do alter the country. They have babies who vote and they tend to vote democrat because they are poor and poor people with no prospects or motivation are parasites

fuck them, no amnesty. Drone the border, and anyone coming across gets killed, or sent to prison.

Its sad they hae to do that, but we cant have the refuse of a poor country polluting where we live. im in Michigan and I hear people not speaking English constantly.

our culture is meaningless to the kids now though. e are in the affluence phase of our collapse. weak ass liberals.

The Great Wall didnt work anyway



where in general in the mitt? do you consider yooper a proper language? there are also areas where a fair bit of arabic, dutch/danish, french, german, and different scandinavian tongues are prominent. 

the funny thing about all the south west states is historically they are mexican, many street names and geography, why do you think that existing language would not carry over to the people living there currently?

poor people without prospects do not equate to parasites. the vast majority of the poorest people grind a hard ass life everyday.

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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23592187 - 08/30/16 01:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The government should ruined our incentive to buy drugs by giving them to us for free. aha


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #23592328 - 08/30/16 03:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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China's wall kept out the pillagers and rapists.




That's like, exactly the same reason Tump is for building a wall...



The Great Wall of China was made as a defense specifically against Mongolians military power. Mexico isn't exactly trying to invade the u.s.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23592331 - 08/30/16 03:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Mexico isn't exactly trying to invade the u.s.




Mexico also isn't exactly great protection from anyone trying to invade the U.S. through Mexico


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #23592360 - 08/30/16 03:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

if you think building a wall is stupid, practice what you preach.. Take the front door off your house and let anyone come in or out day or night since you're so trusting of the human race.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: liloldme]
    #23592370 - 08/30/16 03:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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if you think building a wall is stupid, practice what you preach.. Take the front door off your house and let anyone come in or out day or night since you're so trusting of the human race.




Really not analogous at all.

If anybody's going to break into your home, it's going to be criminals who want to rob you or maybe even rape you or kill you. Nobody breaks into another person's home for benevolent purposes.

Not people seeking a hot meal, or shelter and protection from mafia or gangs. I'm sure plenty of people would gladly open their home to such people who are tired and poor.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
    #23592374 - 08/30/16 03:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Why do people protect their vaginas if they don't like walls around Mexico?  Letting Mexicans cross the border is exactly like allowing anyone to sex you anytime.


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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Hippocampus]
    #23592429 - 08/30/16 04:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Uhhhh no. It's not even remotely similar. Like, at all. You don't personally own the land of the country in the same way that we personally own our vaginas.


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