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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: PatrickKn]
#23606777 - 09/03/16 01:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Great Scott] 1
#23606781 - 09/03/16 01:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Arizona and New Mexico are already Mexico, we can just cede them over.
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: PatrickKn] 1
#23606783 - 09/03/16 01:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trump should make the entire wall a giant hotel with 100% proceeds to America
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Shroomopotamus]
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Shroomopotamus said: Trump should make the entire wall a giant hotel with 100% proceeds to America
Brilliant!
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Shroomopotamus]
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Great Scott] 1
#23606827 - 09/03/16 02:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'm on it
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Shroomopotamus]
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Great Scott]
#23606875 - 09/03/16 03:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said: Did you know that the Afrikaners are a Southern African ethnic group descended from predominantly Dutch settlers first arriving in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries? They refer to their native land as the Vaderland. Therefore STORM TROOPERS!

Anthony Johnson was one of the first black colonists in America. Even owned property and slaves as a free man.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_(colonist)
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23606988 - 09/03/16 06:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: did you know that there are 62,000 customs and border protection agents? 62,000, unlike you, I didnt pull that number out of my ass, the exact number is 62,450, then you have the department of homeland security with 240,000
just how many people do you think we need to watch a wall?
Yes, but obviously the conservative premise is that border security is not doing enough to keep illegals out, and the current border we have is inefficient. Therefore, security measures would need to be added to efficiently secure the border. Yes?
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
#23607057 - 09/03/16 07:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The problem with that many border agents is the majority aren't on the border, and the ones who are there, are told to catch and release, or not to catch at all. We've turned our border patrol, into a babysitting service, illegals nowadays routinely walk up to border agents, becuase they know they will get a ride to the next town and be released "with the promise to show up to their court hearing" it's a fucking joke
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
#23607082 - 09/03/16 07:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: did you know that there are 62,000 customs and border protection agents? 62,000, unlike you, I didnt pull that number out of my ass, the exact number is 62,450, then you have the department of homeland security with 240,000
just how many people do you think we need to watch a wall?
Yes, but obviously the conservative premise is that border security is not doing enough to keep illegals out, and the current border we have is inefficient. Therefore, security measures would need to be added to efficiently secure the border. Yes?
let me say it again. there are border patrol checkpoints that are 100 fucking miles from the border that stop the cars with white people to ask if they're citizens because stopping the brown people is racial profiling, you reallocate those resources to the fucking border. somehow you think that with 300,000 people who's job it is to guard this country from intrusion by terrorists and illegal aliens that we need to hire more? fuck that, drag all of them to the border, make them hold hands and we can have a human wall. fuck that, we can play red rover along the gods damned border with the number of personnel already working for DHS
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23607116 - 09/03/16 07:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: let me say it again. there are border patrol checkpoints that are 100 fucking miles from the border that stop the cars with white people to ask if they're citizens because stopping the brown people is racial profiling
They're not stopping whites for that reason.
What you don't realize is that behind those border patrol checkpoint booths are X-ray machines that secretly scan cars to see if there's drugs or bodies hiding in the trunk of people's cars.
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
#23608178 - 09/03/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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They look through cars like this.
So just know that every time you cross the border or cross one of those checkpoints you're increasing your cancer risk 
I should add that one of these X-ray machines is the price of an expensive house, at $750,000 per piece. We already spend a SHIT-TON on legal, tourist border-crossing areas.
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G]
#23608220 - 09/03/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: let me say it again. there are border patrol checkpoints that are 100 fucking miles from the border that stop the cars with white people to ask if they're citizens because stopping the brown people is racial profiling
They're not stopping whites for that reason.
What you don't realize is that behind those border patrol checkpoint booths are X-ray machines that secretly scan cars to see if there's drugs or bodies hiding in the trunk of people's cars.
I don't believe this. Sorry. You need to support this claim. The liability involved in exposing people to high levels of ionizing radiation without consent is huge. I realize the government does some pretty shady shit, but this is just too over the top.
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: koods]
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Prisoner#1 said: let me say it again. there are border patrol checkpoints that are 100 fucking miles from the border that stop the cars with white people to ask if they're citizens because stopping the brown people is racial profiling
They're not stopping whites for that reason.
What you don't realize is that behind those border patrol checkpoint booths are X-ray machines that secretly scan cars to see if there's drugs or bodies hiding in the trunk of people's cars.
I don't believe this. Sorry. You need to support this claim. The liability involved in exposing people to high levels of ionizing radiation without consent is huge. I realize the government does some pretty shady shit, but this is just too over the top.
This isn't some secret, they have been doing this for at least a decade. I originally saw it in one of those 20/20 type of news documentaries where several TSA agents were being interviewed and were showing off their new equipment shortly after 9/11.
Here's a report from a government page, I don't know what they mean by "nonintrusive" X-ray however. Maybe they scan the car in a way that doesn't scan the passenger?
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On April 1, at the Interstate 19 checkpoint near Tubac, Ariz., agents arrested an adult female U.S. citizen attempting to smuggle two adult male Mexican nationals in the trunk of a Dodge Neon. Agents detected the stowaways using a nonintrusive X-ray device.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/local-media-release/2014-04-10-000000/border-patrol-checkpoints-technology-deny-criminal
They don't even use it just on the border anymore, they also use it at events without anybody's knowledge:
Here's some kind of activist or attorney or whatever at one of the checkpoints that uses X-rays:
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: koods]
#23608259 - 09/03/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also, those images don't look real. why is a person more opaque to X-rays than the engine block. There's no way. To actually be able to image through a vehicle with X-rays would require really high levels far exceeding what you would use in a medical setting. I'm not saying they can't do it, but there's no way they would do it with a live being inside,
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: koods]
#23608272 - 09/03/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: Also, those images don't look real. why is a person more opaque to X-rays than the engine block. There's no way. To actually be able to image through a vehicle with X-rays would require really high levels far exceeding what you would use in a medical setting. I'm not saying they can't do it, but there's no way they would do it with a live being inside,
I just linked you a government article where they talked about finding illegal immigrants hiding inside a car with that device. And another video of CBP using the device to scan vehicles at the Superbowl. That video is from the official US Border Patrol's Youtube page.
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Crystal G] 1
#23608281 - 09/03/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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In-land border checkpoints are unconstitutional and are only allowed to operate because of congressional authorization and legal loopholes. Their stated purpose (in writing) is to briefly detain motorists and their passengers and ask whether or not they are U.S. citizens. Motorists (and their passengers) are not obligated or legally required to even answer that question. But at the same time B.P. agent's policy is to not turn them loose until they can be adequately satisfied that they are U.S. citizens, the preferred method of which is to receive verbal confirmation from the motorist and their passengers. In addition, the CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) also states that B.P. Agents may request documentation to confirm proof of U.S. citizenship. Notice the word "request"...a request is not a lawful order, and you are within your lawful right to decline such request.
It's a whole ridiculous charade is all it is. If it's true what you say about these checkpoints having x-ray scanners, then that does not match the stated purpose of the checkpoints under the CFR. The only authority mentioned in the code that even resembles a search is the authority to see what is in plain view within the vehicle. (ie: peaking through the windows). The whole thing is laughable since the officially stated purpose of these checkpoints (which essentially translates to asking mostly white people whether they are undocumented Mexicans or not) is obviously disingenuous at best, and a fraudulent circumvention of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights at worst.
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: koods]
#23608292 - 09/03/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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On April 1, at the Interstate 19 checkpoint near Tubac, Ariz., agents arrested an adult female U.S. citizen attempting to smuggle two adult male Mexican nationals in the trunk of a Dodge Neon. Agents detected the stowaways using a nonintrusive X-ray device.
That's not what I'm talking about. Clearly, the people being smuggled can't consent to being X-ray if it requires X-rays to find them. I'm talking about the government secretly X-raying PEOPLE. That I don't believe. There must be some procedure where the driver is given the opportunity to not be exposed.
I mean, what's the point of doing it secretly? If you're at a check point and they want to X-ray you, then they would just say "we're going to X-ray your car.
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Re: The Great Wall of China vs The Great Wall of Trump [Re: Great Scott]
#23608309 - 09/03/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is what the Border Patrol manual states:
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Non-Intrusive Inspection (NII) technology enables CBP to detect contraband (e.g., narcotics and weapons) and materials that pose potential nuclear and radiological threats. Technologies deployed to our Nation’s land, sea, and air ports of entry include large-scale X-ray and Gamma- ray imaging systems, as well as a variety of porta- ble and handheld technologies.
An integral part of the CBP comprehensive strat- egy to combat nuclear and radiological terrorism is the scanning of all arriving conveyances and containers with radiation detection equipment prior to release from the port of entry. CBP’s nuclear and radiological detection equip- ment includes Radiation Portal Monitors (RPM), Radiation Isotope Identification Devices (RIID), and Personal Radiation Detectors (PRD) to 329 ports of entry nationwide.
CBP currently has 1,469 RPMs deployed. Utilizing RPMs, CBP is able to scan approximately 100 per- cent of all mail and express consignment mail/ parcels; approximately 100 percent of all truck cargo, 100 percent of personally owned vehicles arriving from Canada and Mexico; and approxi- mately 99 percent of all arriving sea-borne con- tainerized cargo for the presence of radiological/ nuclear materials. Additionally, CBP has deployed 2,811 RIIDs and 29,345 PRDs nationwide.
https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/documents/nii_factsheet_2.pdf
So, they are somehow scanning all incoming vehicles with this device. But they claim it is "non-intrusive," I don't know how. Perhaps the person either has to step out of the vehicle to scan, or they scan the vehicle in a way that only scans the trunk or something? I don't know the specifics.
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