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OfflineFalcon91Wolvrn03
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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: Maroon] * 2
    #23594798 - 08/30/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Maroon said:
What large monetary change happened about 40 years ago?



Trickle Down economics.



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Banks now create money out of thin air, give loans with fake money, then charge unpayable interest as the money was fabricated and over produced. Is this sustainable?



Banks have created money out of thin air since the 1600's.  It provides tremendous flexibility for Governments to do things such as raising money for war and providing a stimulus to prevent a Great Depression.  It's something that can be paid back if Government chooses to collect more than it spends.

Unfortunately, as explained above, Government lowered taxes on the rich in the 80's, so debt/GDP started going up ever since:



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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23595178 - 08/30/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Bubbles85 said:I've had a look online myself and can't confirm the numbers as concrete, but from what I've read, only 500,000 slaves from West Africa were actually bought to North America during the Slave Trade.

...

Obviously the forced sacrifice of those people should not be disregarded, but it seems to be portrayed today, as if the slaves are solely responsible in many regards for making North America what it became, which seems highly unlikely if those numbers are correct.




PSB says 388,000, which seems small until you consider the nation's total population was around 3million by the time the import of slaves was outlawed.

Totally agree with you Falcon, I would just add that the dick measuring contest that was the Cold War buildup didn't help our deficit. Nor does our aging population. Also would like to point out that beginning in the 80s it had been a time of tightening belts on the domestic front. The "war on poverty" was a failed '60s experiment by Reagan's election, which also featured the debut of the "welfare queen."


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: ChemicalSpark] * 1
    #23595854 - 08/30/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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ChemicalSpark said:
Has anyone else noticed that the more liberal America has become, the shittier it's gotten?


The U.S was at its peak during the 50's and that was at a time where we didn't pander to the pussies like we do now days.


COINCIDENCE?    I think NOT!!!



Lets get back to slapping the bitch out of people. The world will be a better place!



I'm not a liberal but this is insane. The government's job should be to make sure everyone is cared for on a basic human level, that no one's human rights are violated. They're still failing miserably, but they're doing far better now than they were in the "good ol' days". If the 50s were so fucking great in your opinion, I guess you think a woman's place is in the kitchen, since before feminism that's where we had to be. I'm a 60s child (born in the 80s but with the counterculture in spirit); most of the good to have come out of this fucked world in all of history is a result of the 60s revolution. Before that, females were universally enslaved by their families and their dominator husbands.


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: Alyssa]
    #23596657 - 08/31/16 08:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:peace:


Edited by ChemicalSpark (11/22/16 10:29 AM)


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: ChemicalSpark] * 2
    #23596671 - 08/31/16 08:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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ChemicalSpark said:
I'm all for women having the same rights as men



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ChemicalSpark said:
my wife will be a stay at home mom



Don't you see the contradiction? I feel really sorry for whoever you bamboozle into marrying you. Chaining her to the home so that she can raise "my children" (not "our children", mine because I'm the male, the head of the family, never mind that she's the one who has to go through labor) is not supporting equal rights at all, you're stuck in the past before women's liberation. Seriously, fuck that shit. I'm appalled that the shroomery has given you such an overwhelming "broproval" for this thread. Misogyny still runs deep in millennial males.


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: Alyssa]
    #23596699 - 08/31/16 08:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Alyssa said:
Quote:

ChemicalSpark said:
Has anyone else noticed that the more liberal America has become, the shittier it's gotten?


The U.S was at its peak during the 50's and that was at a time where we didn't pander to the pussies like we do now days.


COINCIDENCE?    I think NOT!!!



Lets get back to slapping the bitch out of people. The world will be a better place!



I'm not a liberal but this is insane. The government's job should be to make sure everyone is cared for on a basic human level, that no one's human rights are violated. They're still failing miserably, but they're doing far better now than they were in the "good ol' days". If the 50s were so fucking great in your opinion, I guess you think a woman's place is in the kitchen, since before feminism that's where we had to be. I'm a 60s child (born in the 80s but with the counterculture in spirit); most of the good to have come out of this fucked world in all of history is a result of the 60s revolution. Before that, females were universally enslaved by their families and their dominator husbands.




That's total nonsense, my grandmother and her 5 sisters were constantly working various jobs during the late 1930's and beyond. Even after she got married and had my father and uncle she returned to the workforce.

It was a choice for her and many other women, the nice thing for most of them it was just a choice, a man made enough for them to stay home with the children, most women don't have that option today.


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: Alyssa]
    #23596701 - 08/31/16 08:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:peace:


Edited by ChemicalSpark (11/22/16 10:30 AM)


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: Alyssa]
    #23596710 - 08/31/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Alyssa said:
Quote:

ChemicalSpark said:
I'm all for women having the same rights as men



Quote:

ChemicalSpark said:
my wife will be a stay at home mom



Don't you see the contradiction? I feel really sorry for whoever you bamboozle into marrying you. Chaining her to the home so that she can raise "my children" (not "our children", mine because I'm the male, the head of the family, never mind that she's the one who has to go through labor) is not supporting equal rights at all, you're stuck in the past before women's liberation. Seriously, fuck that shit. I'm appalled that the shroomery has given you such an overwhelming "broproval" for this thread. Misogyny still runs deep in millennial males.




I also believe if a couple decides to have children one parent should stay at home during the child's developmental years.  The funny thing is that a lot of men are now taking that role if the female has a better paying job, so things have changed.

Ideally the mother should be the one that stays home and cares for the children, it's usually what's in the best interest of the children and that's the most important aspect of it.


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: qman]
    #23596742 - 08/31/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

Alyssa said:
I'm not a liberal but this is insane. The government's job should be to make sure everyone is cared for on a basic human level, that no one's human rights are violated. They're still failing miserably, but they're doing far better now than they were in the "good ol' days". If the 50s were so fucking great in your opinion, I guess you think a woman's place is in the kitchen, since before feminism that's where we had to be. I'm a 60s child (born in the 80s but with the counterculture in spirit); most of the good to have come out of this fucked world in all of history is a result of the 60s revolution. Before that, females were universally enslaved by their families and their dominator husbands.




That's total nonsense, my grandmother and her 5 sisters were constantly working various jobs during the late 1930's and beyond. Even after she got married and had my father and uncle she returned to the workforce.

It was a choice for her and many other women, the nice thing for most of them it was just a choice, a man made enough for them to stay home with the children, most women don't have that option today.



I should have said generally, because universally does imply 100%. My bad. There were exceptions, but they were rare, unlike today where mostly (consider the gender pay gap, for example) equal rights are the norm. Feminism isn't so much about procuring theoretical equal rights anymore as it is about people's attitudes, which are still horribly misogynist, and crime. FGM, human trafficking and rape are things that feminism today is combating, so don't give me this bullshit about how feminism is obsolete or however you express your negative views on it. If you hold negative views on feminism in general (rather than criticizing a specific subset of it as I do), you are misogynist.


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: ChemicalSpark] * 1
    #23596753 - 08/31/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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ChemicalSpark said:
Quote:

Alyssa said:
Don't you see the contradiction?




What contradiction?



Being stuck at home raising "your children" (they're her children, they came out of her body, so fuck laying claim to ownership of them) is not having equal rights. You can go out and do whatever you want, she has to stay home and deal with the incredible burden of being your wife, making you fucking sandwiches and getting you beer while you watch football (at least metaphorically if not word for word).


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: Alyssa]
    #23596764 - 08/31/16 09:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This isn't a political issue at the roots. It seems we all blame greedy politicians on different sides of the spectrum. So one must look at what motivates this greed for a majority of this broad spectrum.


It's money!!!!!


So for real lets talk about the actual root of these issues and get to the bottom of this corrupt debt leverage money system. What branch  has authority of the federal reserve


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One must ask why they would be complicit in crimes against humanity? Is debt based money really worth whoring out your credibility for?


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: qman]
    #23596769 - 08/31/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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qman said:
I also believe if a couple decides to have children one parent should stay at home during the child's developmental years.  The funny thing is that a lot of men are now taking that role if the female has a better paying job, so things have changed.

Ideally the mother should be the one that stays home and cares for the children, it's usually what's in the best interest of the children and that's the most important aspect of it.



What's the ratio of stay-at-home dads to stay-at-home moms? Very, very small. Unfortunately, people still think like you to a depressingly large extent, and the female gets the shaft almost all of the time.


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: Alyssa]
    #23596770 - 08/31/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:peace:


Edited by ChemicalSpark (11/22/16 10:30 AM)


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: ChemicalSpark]
    #23596798 - 08/31/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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ChemicalSpark said:
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Alyssa said:
consider the gender pay gap, for example




Is there a law that states women must be paid less? NO! There isn't!

So why should there be a law that enforces a quota to compensate?

That would be ASININE!

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Alyssa said:
feminism is obsolete




Damn right it is!

The only purpose it serves now is to brainwash women and create gender inequality in the Females favor.

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Alyssa said:
If you hold negative views on feminism in general, you are misogynist.




The fact that you can so broadly paint an entire gender as "misogynist" shows how ignorant and delusional you are.



You've "cleverly" ignored the parts of my post you can't take out of context and dismiss. Males are mostly misogynist. If there isn't a law saying females must be paid the same as males, we'll be paid less because the patriarchy undervalues us. I hold out hope that there's at least 1 genuine male feminist out there (not just someone who's pretending to be in order to get laid), but so far my hopes have been dashed. If there is one, I'm marrying him.


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: ChemicalSpark]
    #23596803 - 08/31/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

All these financial matters must stem from some unfair money control institutions.

I've heard since the removal of the gold standard. Banks have entrapped every person In a unpayable debt scheme with fractional reserve banking only compounding the debt crisis' that lead to the many issues you guys quiver over.

So we can end all of this today. What branch of the US govt has authority over this monopolized debt creators because we can be all of this inequality by identifying  that


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UNDENIABLE PROOF A MODERATOR (Enlil) USES FRAUDULENT POSTS TO SUPOORT HIS OPINIONS.  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23596771#23596771 ; anyone can verify my original post in its unedited format. This proves the length the disinfo whores will go to defend pseudo theories. What quack jobs. Time to get out of moms basement.

One must ask why they would be complicit in crimes against humanity? Is debt based money really worth whoring out your credibility for?


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: Alyssa] * 1
    #23596804 - 08/31/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Alyssa said:
Quote:

qman said:
I also believe if a couple decides to have children one parent should stay at home during the child's developmental years.  The funny thing is that a lot of men are now taking that role if the female has a better paying job, so things have changed.

Ideally the mother should be the one that stays home and cares for the children, it's usually what's in the best interest of the children and that's the most important aspect of it.



What's the ratio of stay-at-home dads to stay-at-home moms? Very, very small. Unfortunately, people still think like you to a depressingly large extent, and the female gets the shaft almost all of the time.




"gets the shaft"

Do you know how many working mothers who would love to stay at home with their children?  My mother and sister who were both stay of home mothers say it was the most rewarding experience of their lives, they wouldn't trade it for anything in the world.

It's not getting the shaft, it's being able to do what nature intended to happen in the first place, mothers caring for their young children.

Your modern feminism is only 50 year old, mothers caring for their young children goes back millions of years. :lol:


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: ChemicalSpark] * 1
    #23596841 - 08/31/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Expecting a 50/50 ratio of stay at home moms and dads is ignorant of biosocial gender differences.
Mothers do have tighter bonds to their kids for a plethora of reasons and much more often wish to spend more time with them.

A partner, regardless of the sex, who enables his SO to stay at home with the kids, gives a great sacrifice because work fucking sucks and often destroys people, when staying at home seldom does.

Every one should be made aware that this is a highly individual choice for every couple, there's no point in generalizing at all. There are just some tendencies rooted in biological differences that should be respected.
Forcing a loving mother to work full time, suggesting she'd be not standing up for her rights otherwise, does harm, too.


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: Alyssa]
    #23596843 - 08/31/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:peace:


Edited by ChemicalSpark (11/22/16 10:30 AM)


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: qman] * 1
    #23596853 - 08/31/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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qman said:
"gets the shaft"

Do you know how many working mothers who would love to stay at home with their children?  My mother and sister who were both stay of home mothers say it was the most rewarding experience of their lives, they wouldn't trade it for anything in the world.

It's not getting the shaft, it's being able to do what nature intended to happen in the first place, mothers caring for their young children.

Your modern feminism is only 50 year old, mothers caring for their young children goes back millions of years. :lol:



I don't think anyone should be forced to go out and work. This is about a female having the freedom to choose what she does with her life, as opposed to having the patriarchy choose for her like it did in the fucking "good ol' days". Maybe she doesn't want to work, maybe she wants to study or be an artist. Not being obligated to clean up your messes, make you dinner and care for children you hold up as being exclusively yours is the point; this is why we need feminism. Without it, things would go back to being how they were because of people like you.


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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: Maroon]
    #23596862 - 08/31/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:peace:


Edited by ChemicalSpark (11/22/16 10:31 AM)


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