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Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed.
    #23590368 - 08/29/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So I've got a few successful rounds of jars going. Wbs nocd with a syringe, one mini mono going on day two. And the jars are doing amazing on week two. I'm having trouble finding my way around the site. 


I'm looking for links/trusted cultivator journals to lead me forward-

I want to start with grain to agar so I'm looking for the best posts on that.

Also I'm looking for the best information on producing a clone - if anyone wants to explain to me how to better wade through the info on this site that would be most helpful.

Thank you and sorry for clogging up the boards with generalized questions!



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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23590394 - 08/29/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well, first off, you wanna start on agar not grains. Your jars look bacterial btw.
When you go straight to grain with a spore syringe, you will grow whatever happened to be in that syringe. Syringes are notoriously dirty, even from sponsors.
Start with agar, transfer clean growth to fresh plates, then do it again. After 2-3 or so transfers, if its looking clean, you can test what you have on grain.

I would say a good starting place for good clean spawn would be pastyplates. I say that to everyone, i know, but it truly is the best place to start from.for a noob thats actually serious about mush cult.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976/fpart/1/vc/1

Here is a link to a bunch of videos that may teach you a thing or 2.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21032261#21032261


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Psychedel.EXE]
    #23590407 - 08/29/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

thanks. Where are you seeing bacteria? It does look "fuzzy" All growth has been gradual. The species is known to be a fast colonizer. Edit: everything is white growth- discoloration is because I can't get a quality pic with my shitty little iPod.


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23590506 - 08/29/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Its the pressed up against the glass look, and the discoloration (that part might just be the pic). Looks thin and kinda wispy too. I would wait to see what others think.


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Psychedel.EXE]
    #23590544 - 08/29/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Pirate swazey has a journal that has just about everything trusted cultivator inocuole basically all the older members and pasty whytes easy agar tek if you're talking about taking one of those grains onto agar it can be done but may lead into cleaning it up it takes one drop of spore solution on agar to germinate


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23590552 - 08/29/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

And those jars don't look bad but when you see wet grain up against the glass it can be bacterial


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Psychedel.EXE]
    #23590563 - 08/29/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23590573 - 08/29/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They look good to me that's rhizo which can be good or bad if there is alot


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23590575 - 08/29/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They're most likely empty hulls that aren't being taken over and are pressed up against he glass? I haven't shaken at all, when I do - they all become coated after recovery.


There's not tons of rhizo growth, they seem to be mainly by the noc points.


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23590595 - 08/29/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ya as long as they don't look greasy wet you should be good I don't use wbs so I don't know how it looks at well


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23590623 - 08/29/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ya no grease or weird sweat. The last jars smelled just like fresh picked cubes. They were even fuzzier looking


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23590636 - 08/29/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Also I'm using rye next. Just using what I have til it's gone. I've been sneak feeding the birds around here trying to get rid of it.


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23591048 - 08/29/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Those jars actually look great. Myc doesnt look weird in those pics at all. My bad.


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Psychedel.EXE]
    #23591345 - 08/29/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks friend, The pictures can be deceiving for sure! It's better than nothing though, I suppose.

I'm now looking into grain to LC, thank you for your contribution.


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23591488 - 08/29/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm having trouble finding much on grain to LC.

What would be THE BEST way for me to "carry on the legacy" of these first colonizing jars?

Money and difficulty aside, what would give me the best chances at recreating this growth?


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23591523 - 08/29/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i like frank. -easy to follow and read
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17897163

and pasty plates are easy enough for a child to do! i LOVE THEM!!


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: mushboy]
    #23591537 - 08/29/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Nice , tyvm!


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23591960 - 08/29/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Teak said:
I'm having trouble finding much on grain to LC.

What would be THE BEST way for me to "carry on the legacy" of these first colonizing jars?

Money and difficulty aside, what would give me the best chances at recreating this growth?





I would never put grain to LC man thats azking for ickies

The best way would be to open one of those jars in front of a flow hood or SAB and fork a kernel with a sterile scalpel and put to agar. After a transfer or two and your satisfied you have a clean culture than you can put a wedge to LC or inoculate clean spawn to fruit out


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: mushpunx]
    #23592599 - 08/30/16 07:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for your input. Any links with comments would be appreciated. The more info I find the more it seems like g2g is the best. Why spawn to agar for more steps?


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23593243 - 08/30/16 11:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Thanks for your input. Any links with comments would be appreciated. The more info I find the more it seems like g2g is the best. Why spawn to agar for more steps?




Because its beneficial to you in the end. When a person is trying to cultivate shrooms, it takes a bit of time to get your myc expanded out to a point where you can spawn to a monotub. If you started out with a slightly bacterial master (which can sometimes slip by, especially if u noc'd up with a spore syringe), then you expand that into 8 more jars. you now have 8 bacterial jars for your mono.

With agar you can see contams WAAAY easier than you can see them in a grain jar. You can let the myc outrun contams and transfer healthy myc to another agar plate and let it grow out (maybe do this a few times) then use it as inoculate. That way you are insured that you have good clean healthy growth.

A) You wasted no grain.
B) You wasted no time.
C) You have a good yield when you are done.

EDIT: And when you finally have fruits, you are now experienced enough with agar that you can now have the confidence to clone


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: Psychedel.EXE]
    #23593724 - 08/30/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:


You wont know if you are working with a clean culture until you see it on agar and inoculate with a clean agar wedge.


Bacteria and mold can hide so well in spawn ,  unless there is something obvious like bad smell or visible mold (which rarely happens to me) the substrate wont turn green untill its been in fruiting conditions for a while.

Also, if you started with a clean agar culture and your tub goes green, you can rule out your culture as the cause- you made the mistake during G2G or inoculation


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Re: Where do I go from here? Noob guidance needed. [Re: mushpunx]
    #23595123 - 08/30/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Perfect , thanks guys! These explanations are commonly left out of most tutorials, not that I should need to be reminded that sterilization is key, it just been using outdated info.


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