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    #23590295 - 08/29/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I wanna pick up some SFD's...but where from?


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Re: SFD'S [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23590310 - 08/29/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: SFD'S [Re: amidogen]
    #23590358 - 08/29/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Not as good a price as mycopath, but maybe the shipping is cheaper.  And they have a variety of sizes.

http://www.fungi.com/search-results.html#/?q=Synthetic%20Filter%20Discs


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Re: SFD'S [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #23590813 - 08/29/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

ive been trying to figure out if you can buy a sheet or whatever of the material and
make your own. The number of quarts i have means id spend uhhh ALOT on SFDs...


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Re: SFD'S [Re: mushboy]
    #23590826 - 08/29/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I believe you can Iron polyfill to create SFDs

*Edit: fixed link URL


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Re: SFD'S [Re: TheLongComma]
    #23590929 - 08/29/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

bad link^


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Re: SFD'S [Re: mushboy]
    #23591185 - 08/29/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

link works on my end.  I got mine from mycosuppy and they are great


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Re: SFD'S [Re: Kenetic]
    #23591208 - 08/29/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Amidogen-Thanks brotha! You da man!

Oh btw, the quote in your signature is awesome man...truly awesome

Kinetic- Thanks brotha, link worked great for me!


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Re: SFD'S [Re: Kenetic]
    #23591244 - 08/29/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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link works on my end.  I got mine from mycosuppy and they are great




I ment the other link now fixed. Thanks longcomma!


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Re: SFD'S [Re: mushboy]
    #23591301 - 08/29/16 07:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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ive been trying to figure out if you can buy a sheet or whatever of the material and
make your own. The number of quarts i have means id spend uhhh ALOT on SFDs...




You can cut the SFD into little circles.. from a 90mm SFD, I can make SFDs for 9 jars, if I recall correctly. for reference


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Re: SFD'S [Re: herrenvolk]
    #23591312 - 08/29/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I was meaning a large sheet to cut my own 90mm discs.


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Re: SFD'S [Re: mushboy]
    #23591324 - 08/29/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I was meaning that by cutting each SFD into small circles, it becomes much more cost-efficient. i.e. you can make enough sfds for 90 jars using 10 90mm SFDs.


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Re: SFD'S [Re: mushboy]
    #23591329 - 08/29/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Noob moment...

I guess I'm under the impression a full disc would
Give more gas exchange then a 1/8 drilled hole but
I could order and cut them out.

I dont always cut myself but when I do its on drilled lids:mostinteresting:


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Re: SFD'S [Re: mushboy]
    #23591334 - 08/29/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

you mean when you do


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Re: SFD'S [Re: Kenetic]
    #23591342 - 08/29/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: SFD'S [Re: mushboy]
    #23591454 - 08/29/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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ive been trying to figure out if you can buy a sheet or whatever of the material and
make your own. The number of quarts i have means id spend uhhh ALOT on SFDs...




They do not sell sheets of the material, only disks of varying size.  The pre- cut disks are the best! IMO.  Take them out of the packaging, pop em in your jars, and you can get on with your day.  Cutting disks to size and gluing them on the lids sounds like quite a project, and I don't believe they work as well, or last as long as uncut filters.  For the convenience alone, a buck a piece seems pretty reasonable.  Even cheaper if you buy in bulk.  Going cheap on filters is like going cheap on car tires.  You will ultimately get where you're going, but you'll probably have a lot more problems a long the way.


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Re: SFD'S [Re: mushboy]
    #23591502 - 08/29/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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ive been trying to figure out if you can buy a sheet or whatever of the material and
make your own. The number of quarts i have means id spend uhhh ALOT on SFDs...




They do not sell sheets of the material, only disks of varying size.  The pre- cut disks are the best! IMO.  Take them out of the packaging, pop em in your jars, and you can get on with your day.  Cutting disks to size and gluing them on the lids sounds like quite a project, and I don't believe they work as well, or last as long as uncut filters.  For the convenience alone, a buck a piece seems pretty reasonable.  Even cheaper if you buy in bulk.  Going cheap on filters is like going cheap on car tires.  You will ultimately get where you're going, but you'll probably have a lot more problems a long the way.



true. also if 'pre-cut'.. where is the 'sheet'??

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mushboy said:
I guess I'm under the impression a full disc would
Give more gas exchange then a 1/8 drilled hole....




also id prefer to buy a lbs of meat to make my own burgers instead
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Re: SFD'S [Re: mushboy]
    #23591529 - 08/29/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

freshly prepared hamburgers are the tits!  But we are not talking about hamburgers though....unless you are eating the disks?  The place where they make the filters is waaay better at making filters than anybody here.  Some things are best left to the pros.


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Re: SFD'S [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #23591568 - 08/29/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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....The place where they make the filters is waaay better at making filters than anybody here.  Some things are best left to the pros.




one could say the same about buying a pre-made
grow kit thats made by the 'pros'
I am trying to figure out HOW they are made and WHAT they are made out of ya know?


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Re: SFD'S [Re: mushboy]
    #23591602 - 08/29/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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....The place where they make the filters is waaay better at making filters than anybody here.  Some things are best left to the pros.




one could say the same about buying a pre-made
grow kit thats made by the 'pros'
I am trying to figure out HOW they are made and WHAT they are made out of ya know?




Those grow kits are assembled by a bunch of shit hustlers.  They are professionals at taking all the noobes money, and that's it.  If you want to know those kind of specifics, you will probably have to contact a company that makes the disks.


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Re: SFD'S [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #23591633 - 08/29/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

indeed my point. how can a piece of 'sfd' be $1 plus/minus when the bulk
material comes from somewhere...

if its simply ironed out polyfil than my wife is gonna be pissed when
i trash her iron making over 100 90mm discs with melted shit burned
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Re: SFD'S [Re: mushboy]
    #23591701 - 08/29/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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indeed my point. how can a piece of 'sfd' be $1 plus/minus when the bulk
material comes from somewhere...

if its simply ironed out polyfil than my wife is gonna be pissed when
i trash her iron making over 100 90mm discs with melted shit burned
to the bottom :bitchsmack:




A sheet of SFD material(which is probably more like a roll hundreds of feet long) is not going to be cheap, or even available for sale.  They will also probably not cut you off a couple feet from it, either.  I think the point you are getting at is that you are a cheap ass.  You wouldn't even buy your own iron to make your filters???  Sorry, wife of mushboy.  My pre-cut filters made from a facility that makes working filters for a living perform well.  Maybe skip the next bag of weed and instead buy a set of 100 filters for $50 - $60.  Or have fun melting shit.  Your call.


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Re: SFD'S [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #23591750 - 08/29/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

good lord dude. :judyfacepalm:


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Re: SFD'S [Re: mushboy]
    #23591760 - 08/29/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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....The place where they make the filters is waaay better at making filters than anybody here.  Some things are best left to the pros......Those grow kits are assembled by a bunch of shit hustlers.  They are professionals at taking all the noobes money




one could say the same about buying a pre-made
grow kit thats made by the 'pros'
I am trying to figure out HOW they are made and WHAT they are made out of ya know?




those same places also sell grow kits.. make a living?? wtf


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Re: SFD'S [Re: mushboy]
    #23591857 - 08/29/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

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....The place where they make the filters is waaay better at making filters than anybody here.  Some things are best left to the pros......Those grow kits are assembled by a bunch of shit hustlers.  They are professionals at taking all the noobes money




one could say the same about buying a pre-made
grow kit thats made by the 'pros'
I am trying to figure out HOW they are made and WHAT they are made out of ya know?




those same places also sell grow kits.. make a living?? wtf




Has anybody ever told you that you're kind of dumb?  Perhaps shake and bake meth might be more up your alley.  Probably way cheaper to make than mushies :meff:


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Re: SFD'S [Re: mushboy]
    #23591885 - 08/29/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

ive been doing this for ten plus years. and i post pics of
what i have done and what i failed at. where are yours?

oh wait you. posted like once and bought grains off a vendor and fucked them up. good use of money since i am a cheap ass right? 

sit your 50~ post/2week ass down before i make change.


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Re: SFD'S [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #23591955 - 08/29/16 10:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Because I care.  Definitions from google.

manufacturer
man·u·fac·tur·er
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a person or company that makes goods for sale.

vendor
ven·dor
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a person or company offering something for sale.

Just because a vendor sells something, doesn't mean they make it, okay?  A vendor often sells crap along with their better quality products.  Why?  Because people buy it.  Business 101, sell things that people will buy.  The purpose of a business is to generate revenue.  Welcome to America.  Making and or selling mushroom kits (or any product) are only scandalous if they GUARANTEE it to work.  There are no guarantees in this hobby.  And they might work if you followed their instructions to a T, just like any other tek on here.  Buying SFD's from a VENDOR is fine, I promise.  If you want to find out about SFD sheets, contact the MANUFACTURER of SFDs.  Jesus...H...Christ, Pile.  Stay in school, kids.

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Re: SFD'S [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #23591975 - 08/29/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i dont live in 'america' and i speak klingon. so... :thaaannks:


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Re: SFD'S [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #23591977 - 08/29/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Mushboy, it appears they're made from cellulose -


  https://www.amazon.com/Wide-Mouth-Cellulose-Filter-Discs/dp/B00I1I7NOE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472532147&sr=8-1&keywords=Cellulose+filter+disc ;  


Idgaf so I'm not doing it, but a little searching/shopping around for something like "cellulose filter paper" might get you somewhere.


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Re: SFD'S [Re: jesustripped]
    #23591992 - 08/29/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

can no one understand i am thinking/looking for a SHEET(whatever the amount) of it. not 1.25per or .83c x 100??

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Re: SFD'S [Re: mushboy]
    #23592010 - 08/29/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Mushboy, I wasn't suggesting you buy the filter in the link, just citing a source that says they're made from cellulose.


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Re: SFD'S [Re: jesustripped]
    #23592025 - 08/29/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Mushboy, I wasn't suggesting you buy the filter in the link, just citing a source that says they're made from cellulose.




yes i am aware. thanks for the link :laugh:


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    #23592101 - 08/29/16 11:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Synthetic filter discs and cellulose filter disks are two different things. By definition, cellulose is not synthetic. :facepalm:


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Re: SFD'S [Re: herrenvolk]
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    #23592879 - 08/30/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well fuck me  :drysmash:


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Re: SFD'S [Re: jesustripped]
    #23593009 - 08/30/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I use these   thick felt sheets and cut them into little squares and they work just as good as cutting up the sfd's from vendors and is waaay cheaper...




sorry I don't have any pics of just grains colonizing but the sub/grain mixture would need just as much ge as grains to colonize.

oh yeah and the best part of these is you can just melt the plastic lid around the 1/4" hole with a torch lighter and then push the felt cutout on and done. Fully sealed and fully permanent plus they don't need any time to dry and no mess of silicon.

has made making tons of lids a very simple and a very quick task.


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    #23593024 - 08/30/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I use these   thick felt sheets and cut them into little squares and they work just as good as cutting up the sfd's from vendors and is waaay cheaper...




sorry I don't have any pics of just grains colonizing but the sub/grain mixture would need just as much ge as grains to colonize.

oh yeah and the best part of these is you can just melt the plastic lid around the 1/4" hole with a torch lighter and then push the felt cutout on and done. Fully sealed and fully permanent plus they don't need any time to dry and no mess of silicon.

has made making tons of lids a very simple and a very quick task.




I think i might try that!! thanks  mr. bosley!
also is that a cough syrup i see there... yummm


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    #23593068 - 08/30/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

sorry just some ibuprofen

I frorgot to mention that they should be sold at most craft stores and walmarts

Dilated has a good writeup on making the lids with that felt.
I'll try to find it for ya.

Gr0wer also has as video here somewhere that shows him using the same felt and melting them on the lids.

His method is a little over the top as he uses a torched socket to make the holes and then uses the big ol' propane torch to melt the plastic to attatch the filter.

I found making the holes is very easy with a small soldering iron and melting the plastic is way easier with a little hand held butane torch gun.



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    #23593200 - 08/30/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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    #23593286 - 08/30/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

what you are looking for is ez-felt

it is basically 8.5"x11" sheets of nice clean synthetic filter material. you can buy it at either of the big box craft stores.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14488446

i currently use it for everything but have actually been thinking to changing over to legit SFD, just to try to up the game a little more.  i still get a contam every 10-12 jars or so, so i want to start rulling out factors....


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Re: SFD'S [Re: guyute22]
    #23593340 - 08/30/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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guyute22 said:
what you are looking for is ez-felt

it is basically 8.5"x11" sheets of nice clean synthetic filter material. you can buy it at either of the big box craft stores.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14488446

i currently use it for everything but have actually been thinking to changing over to legit SFD, just to try to up the game a little more.  i still get a contam every 10-12 jars or so, so i want to start rulling out factors....




holy moldy mushroom batman!
that is what i was looking for!


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Re: SFD'S [Re: mushboy]
    #23593367 - 08/30/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

those sheets look pretty thin but maybe they are just more compacted than the ones I have?

I have seen thin sheets of felt(used them doubled for bottom holes in monotub) that look similar to that tek and I would say I think they are too thin but idk from experience but I think I asked about it a while back and was told the flimsy ones are a no no. I think someone said that two layers ironed together would work.

maybe those brands he listed are better than the thin sheets I had, but I still would recommend the thick ones I showed Because I know they work.


Dilated's Tek no silicon Tek

gr0wer's vid and tek

I found the felt sheets work a lot better for this tek than myco sfd's because the felt really adheres to the melted plastic and will truly be impossible to remove..


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Edited by tombosley8 (08/30/16 11:52 AM)


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