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Sclorch
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How NOT to debate...
#2357602 - 02/20/04 01:04 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I ran into this just tonight. For me, it's an articulation of all the bullshit conversational tactics used by lesser minds. Now you can know exactly how a bullshitter annoys you. _________________________ Ad Hominem Variants OVER YOUR HEAD EVEN YOU YOU'LL GET OVER IT WISHFUL THINKING
Sleight of Mind Fallacies NIT-PICKING OUT OF CONTEXT I'M NOT SAYING THIS HEAT-SEEKING QUESTION RIGHT BY ASSOCIATION CHEAP SHOT THE SALESMAN'S CLOSE BOMBAST THINK VS. FEEL LUNATIC FRINGE CUT 'EM OFF AT THE PASS DENIAL OF A VALID CONCLUSION
Delay Tactics DESCRIBE THE ANSWER DESCRIBE THE QUESTION QUESTION THE QUESTION / COMMENT BRAIN SEIZURE WORD SALAD, a.k.a. SESQUIPEDALIANISM REVERSE THE QUESTION START A STORY OBVIOUS ANSWER
Question As Opportunity "THIS OR THAT" "X IS ONE ISSUE, Y IS ANOTHER"
General Cheap Shot Tactics and Irritants HYPOTHETICAL INSULT COMPLIMENTARY INSULT DISTORTED ACTIVE LISTENING NAME IT I KNOW BETTER SELECTIVE MEMORY STUDIES HAVE SHOWN REPEAT OFFENDER, a.k.a. SLOGAN RESPONSES KNEE JERK LOOK AT YOU SELECTIVE QUOTATION FAST ANSWER YOU'LL PAY FOR THAT PRETEND AD HOMINEM LISTEN UP FILIBUSTER
All this and more can be found here: http://www.vandruff.com/art_converse.html
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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Sclorch]
#2358772 - 02/20/04 09:42 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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*cuts you off at the pass*
Peace.
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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Sclorch]
#2358873 - 02/20/04 10:20 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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So.. where is the How to Debate?
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Sclorch
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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Zero7a1]
#2359086 - 02/20/04 11:26 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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"How to" comes from consciously NOT applying any of the tactics above while still conversing. It's really not that hard. We're doing it right now.
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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Sclorch]
#2361033 - 02/20/04 08:08 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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CyberChump is like totally confused.
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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Sclorch]
#2361049 - 02/20/04 08:14 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I like this list, perhaps you, or anyone could give a short example of each thing listed, so we can understand it better. I understand about half of them like: start a story, reverse the question, so on, but what do these mean:HEAT-SEEKING QUESTION, BOMBAST, PRETEND AD HOMINEM, and theres a few more but I will settle with those. thx
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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Sclorch]
#2362607 - 02/21/04 02:35 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Excuse me, sir, but you are using cruel tactics; you are making us bullshitters look HORRIBLE DUDE!! I'd call that a "cheap-shot" to we shitters of bull
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>perhaps you, or anyone could give a short example of each thing listed
-For a complete list of examples, click HERE
I don't know if this counts as a CHEAP SHOT or a FAST ANSWER.
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Frog
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I think that's a cheap shot...
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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Sclorch]
#2369502 - 02/22/04 08:02 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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this is way over my head. haha.
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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Sclorch]
#2370002 - 02/22/04 10:04 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice link Sclorch.. That just might come in handy! Thanx
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Sclorch
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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Deiymiyan]
#2370224 - 02/22/04 11:10 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Sclorch]
#2373092 - 02/23/04 05:42 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I guess that is how a majority of the people mass debate. It comes in handy when you can't score any other way. Such arguements are really discuss-ting.
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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: SpecialEd]
#2373152 - 02/23/04 06:08 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
SpecialEd said: Such arguements are really discuss-ting.
*groan* lol! I love a bad pun!
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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Le_Canard]
#2373267 - 02/23/04 06:52 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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You will not be disappointed with me. When I get wound up, I can go on for hours.
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