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OfflineCrystal G
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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23603062 - 09/01/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm right where I need to be. You are trying to obfuscate by saying that makeup makes anyone look better. I'm saying that an attractive female doesn't need makeup to look like an attractive female. They just look like an attractive female because they are one.




Lol... the percentage of women who look attractive without makeup is very small.

This number gets even smaller for women who are older than 25.

Only some teenagers can pull off the no-makeup look well.


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23603071 - 09/01/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Millions is a very small percentage of the earth's female population. What are you arguing, exactly? That most women aren't natural 10/10 beauties? Of course. But I never argued that in the first place.


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23603074 - 09/01/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Millions is a very small percentage of the earth's female population. What are you arguing, exactly? That most women aren't natural 10/10 beauties? Of course. But I never argued that in the first place.




Yet you're saying something about trans-women because most of them don't look good without makeup.

Well, that's also true for cis women too. So what is even your point?


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23603103 - 09/01/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm saying that an attractive woman looks like an attractive woman looks like an attractive woman. They have an inherent femininity that can be detected, with or without makeup. Even if she looks better with makeup on, that's irrelevant. And I'm saying that most of these so called attractive trannies that people post are always cloaked with 50 lbs. of makeup or whatever.

Why is this so hard to comprehend?  :meatspace:


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23603132 - 09/01/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Are you blind? She isn't Asian.. she's clearly Hispanic or mixed. How the hell did you think that looks like an Asian ladyboy...

Edit: Turns out she's native American, born in Mexico. Not Asian. TOLD YA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaniity




I won't lie, I thought asian too!

And I have a thing for Asians, so I found her beautiful.


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: zZZz]
    #23603137 - 09/01/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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As such I do not believe in heaven or hell in the traditional sense, I don't believe in pure evil or pure goodness - I think hell is more a state of mind and that all hate and suffering is ultimately born out of pain or fear(not to turn into that weird Donnie Darko gym teacher fear/love lady on y'all).





u really don't think pure evil or pure goodness exist?..






I think the world is mostly shades of grey if that makes sense. I think there is lots of evil in the world, but nothing is 100% evil, just like there is lots of good in the world but in that good there's also things like self-interest and flaws in general. I think the two co-exist with one another as a dichotomy, whether in one person.

It doesn't mean that I don't believe in evil, I just think pretty much everything is far too complex to either be good or bad entirely.


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23603141 - 09/01/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What I know for certain is that this girl:



Would ABSOLUTELY still look beautiful to me without any make up on.

You are out your mind if you don't see that make up is only a very small percentage of the hotness of that person.

Its ok man. You can admit that is a sexy person. It doesn't make you gay.


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23603143 - 09/01/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You just described our "world", not existence as a whole.


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23603153 - 09/01/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You just described our "world", not existence as a whole.






How can I describe that which I don't know?


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23603173 - 09/01/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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What I know for certain is that this girl:



Would ABSOLUTELY still look beautiful to me without any make up on.

You are out your mind if you don't see that make up is only a very small percentage of the hotness of that person.

Its ok man. You can admit that is a sexy person. It doesn't make you gay.





Show me a pic of "her" without makeup on then. I think he would still just look like an effeminate boy with anomalous feminine facial features. Obviously he wouldn't look like a total ugly trainwreck, whether posing naturally as male or posing unnaturally as male-2-female. That's just what youth and a particular set of genetics can do for a person. Twink in, twink out.


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23603176 - 09/01/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You just described our "world", not existence as a whole.






How can I describe that which I don't know?




Faith, intuition, discernment, to name a few.


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23603177 - 09/01/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i can respect that. but suppose someone were to tell u that it's not really that complicated and that it is as easy as A or B?..

If you were told you can choose only one from the two, Which would you choose, A or B?..

A being for good, and B for bad.. just curious..


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23603186 - 09/01/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah but youth and a particular set of genetics is what makes hot girls hot too.

Ok man I think we can agree to disagree.

Because neither of us have a picture of her without make up, its remains hypothetical.

However, I think you are repeatedly failing to confront the fact that both girls and trans girls benefit from youth, make up and genetics, so none of those factors can be used to dismiss the remarkable beauty of that person as though it was not there, and all the same things you are saying apply to every female celebrity in the world.

They all employ every trick in the book to look as hot as possible, but that doesn't mean the beautiful celebrities of the world aren't beautiful or that any random person could approach their beauty with make up.

The reason that trans girl looks way hotter then other trans girls wearing equal amounts of make up is because that trans girl is way hotter then the other trans girls, and hotter then the vast majority of females as well.


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: zZZz]
    #23603187 - 09/01/16 11:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Cannot serve 2 masters. Indeed. :strokebeard:


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23603191 - 09/01/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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pirate-blues said:
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You just described our "world", not existence as a whole.






How can I describe that which I don't know?




Faith, intuition, discernment, to name a few.






And those are entirely subjective ways to measure anything.


Which is not necessarily bad because I use all of those things and have discerned my own subjective interpretation of existence. Polarization of good and evil to the extent of a heaven and a hell does not fit my view.


My view may not fit yours. And trying to argue which is more right will go on till the cows come home, because arguing anything without objectivity is pointless.


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23603197 - 09/01/16 11:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah but youth and a particular set of genetics is what makes hot girls hot too.

Ok man I think we can agree to disagree.

Because neither of us have a picture of her without make up, its remains hypothetical.

However, I think you are repeatedly failing to confront the fact that both girls and trans girls benefit from youth, make up and genetics, so none of those factors can be used to dismiss the remarkable beauty of that person as though it was not there, and all the same things you are saying apply to every female celebrity in the world.

They all employ every trick in the book to look as hot as possible, but that doesn't mean the beautiful celebrities of the world aren't beautiful or that any random person could approach their beauty with make up.

The reason that trans girl looks way hotter then other trans girls wearing equal amounts of make up is because that trans girl is way hotter then the other trans girls, and hotter then the vast majority of females as well.




Naw, I'm pretty confident I know what I'm talking about. The intrinsic femininity of a woman as given by God trumps the manufactured femininity of a tranny as given by surgery, chemistry, and cosmetics. It's no contest, really.


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23603202 - 09/01/16 11:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think the hottest possible woman is hotter then the hottest possible trans woman, but that doesnt mean that any given trans woman might not be much hotter then the majority of females, despite the fact there would still be plenty of females hotter still.

What you don't seem to be getting is that there are billions of people who all are beautiful on a spectrum.

Nobody is saying trans girls are hotter than females as a group or on average, or even in any but a tiny minority of cases.

I am obviously not saying trans women are more beautiful than females overall.

I am just saying that if you take it on a case by case, individual by individual basis, there are indeed some trans women who are much hotter than most regular females.

If I could choose anyone in the world as a mate, I would choose a gorgeous female, not a trans person.

But if you put that hot trans girl and any random woman together in a room and force me to choose one of them, I gaurantee that not only will I choose the hot trans girl nine times out of ten, so will you.


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23603218 - 09/01/16 11:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's just one step away from transhumanism. As a Christian and someone who has read the old testament as well as end times scripture, I would think you'd not only realize this, but you'd also recognize the inherent implications. You're going into all sorts of tangents and making this far more complicated than it needs to be.


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23603219 - 09/01/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I did a google image search for "ordinary woman"

Here are the first three results I saw:



Lets compare those three ordinary females, who are not ugly, just normal, with this trans girl:



I can guarantee you they were all wearing make up.

I know which one I would rather wake up beside every morning.


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Re: If you were judged and sent to heaven or hell which would it be? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23603267 - 09/01/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

"Easy question. Do you think you'd be sent to heaven or hell (Just based on merit of actions etc) no faith involved".


Define heaven and hell.  Hell is being around people and communities I can't stand.  Heaven is being around those places and people that I do.

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