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Re: Advice please? [Re: PsycheUltimatum]
    #23584897 - 08/27/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think you will have a bad trip for sure however in my book a bad trip can be just as useful as a good one. You already know you're in a rough spot and the shrooms  will tell you the same. I know for a fact they will tell you what needs to be done no matter how harsh. Maybe they will help you find the peace you need to make the right decision.


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Re: Advice please? [Re: PsycheUltimatum]
    #23585393 - 08/27/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah just make sure you aren't in that setting while tripping :lol:

Go someplace where you're alone and your thoughts and feelings can surface would be my advice.

I've tripped many times in "dark" times of my life. Always been beneficial for me.


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Re: Advice please? [Re: PsycheUltimatum]
    #23585676 - 08/28/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I would definitely not take mushrooms at this point in your life. You're just way too vulnerable and especially on shrooms. I mean you maybe possibly might be able to get away with having a good LSD experience (still unlikely) but definitely not on shrooms.
On shrooms that's the last thing you want, not that that isn't true with acid as well though.


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Re: Advice please? [Re: Morbid]
    #23585677 - 08/28/16 12:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I think you will have a bad trip for sure however in my book a bad trip can be just as useful as a good one. You already know you're in a rough spot and the shrooms  will tell you the same. I know for a fact they will tell you what needs to be done no matter how harsh. Maybe they will help you find the peace you need to make the right decision.




True it's just I don't know if someone should have to go through that their first time unless that person is a dick. Mother nature can be ruthless.


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    #23586042 - 08/28/16 07:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Advice please? [Re: PsycheUltimatum]
    #23586178 - 08/28/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

They will show you things regardless, whether you can do them or act on them is something else.  I know from experience that when things-to-do come up during a trip, if you don't do them the next time you trip they will come up stronger.  Either way you'll learn something though about what you need. :shrug:


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Re: Advice please? [Re: PsycheUltimatum]
    #23586349 - 08/28/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Shrooms take it easy as hell on you your first time, they're very fond of newbies and tend to filter themselves on your first experience especially on a low dose. I had full on ego death on my first shroom trip and reality completely dissolved (because of the dose I took) but in a weird kind of way they still somehow took it "easy" on me.

Just saying that your first trip might not be anywhere near as easy as your future ones. I don't really know the details of your situation though so I can't say for sure. What kind of dose did you take before and what dose are you thinking of taking now?

Shrooms will most definitely give you answers and a clearer perspective but that won't come until about hour 4 or 5..
Those first 3 hours may be somewhat difficult and even chaotic. You just have to get over the hump.


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    #23586595 - 08/28/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Advice please? [Re: PsycheUltimatum]
    #23586676 - 08/28/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yea that sounds good but are you really sure you took 10 to 15 pieces? That sounds like a lot

How much do you think it weighed?


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    #23586810 - 08/28/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Advice please? [Re: PsycheUltimatum]
    #23587115 - 08/28/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well the number of caps and stems don't really mean anything at all, it's the weight that matters and that's really it ( as well as species and quality) but never go by number of actual shrooms.

I've had eighths that were just 1 or 2 big mushrooms and I've had eighths that were like 30 to 40 little ones. You're definitely gonna went a scale when dealing with this stuff, you're putting your body and mind at risk after all. I couldn't even imagine taking even just a small amount of shrooms without knowing exactly how much they weighed. I find that kinda scary and would probably be freaking out the whole time.


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    #23587213 - 08/28/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Advice please? [Re: PsycheUltimatum]
    #23587240 - 08/28/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ha ya I took that quote from Terence McKenna because he used it when talking about getting a scale and weighing the dose but I guess it's not really putting your physical body at risk.

You are however putting your mind at great risks if you don't know exactly what you're doing or you do something wrong. Psychedelics are ONLY safe when they are used right and your set and setting are appropriate.
If used improperly psychedelics can be more dangerous than any drug out there, it's all about you and how you're using this powerful tool. Something that has the power to change your whole perspective on life forever just after one 6 or 12 hour session can be incredibly dangerous if you don't know what you're doing.

If used right however psychedelics like mushrooms and LSD are even safer than weed. That's why psychedelics are considered safe drugs because they CAN be safe but if they are used in a bad setting or someone doesn't do enough research you can forget about it being one of the safest drugs because it's not safe if someone is an idiot about it.
You're on a trip right now (life) and psychedelics are only going to make the trip you're already in more intense and more noticeable.


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Re: Advice please? [Re: PsycheUltimatum]
    #23587249 - 08/28/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Do you know who Terence McKenna is? Because if you don't you most definitely should if you're going to experiment with mushrooms.

This video gives good advice on how to do mushrooms:



You're not gonna find anyone who describes the experience better than McKenna.


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Re: Advice please? [Re: PsycheUltimatum]
    #23587349 - 08/28/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Yea that sounds good but are you really sure you took 10 to 15 pieces? That sounds like a lot

How much do you think it weighed?





I am certain it was in the region of 10-15 but my tolerance was up I suppose as I had ingested a test dose of around 6-7 the night before but I really have no idea on what weight it would have been.

I didn't think 10-15 was a lot I was under the impression the standard dose of Liberty caps is 30-50 ?




Pretty much, 25-30 is a good dose IME 50 is getting up there.  :Awemush: :awecid:  Never used a scale with libs back in the day. :lol:


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Re: Advice please? [Re: PsycheUltimatum]
    #23587360 - 08/28/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I would take some time to mend your current problems before tripping.  If you're too eager to trip and can't wait, at least take a vacation to get yourself in a better place (if only temporary).  Go rent a cabin or something with a friend you really trust, have an awesome week there without really even thinking about the drugs (remember to plan it out before the vacation).  Then near the tail end of the vacation go for it.

For the actual trip make sure you have snacks and water nearby, good chill music, and various things to change your mindset if needed like a Dali book or a guitar or something


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    #23587394 - 08/28/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23587446 - 08/28/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Until then am just gonna try be as at peace as possible and have my set and setting appropriate and try trip to see what answers come through.




Just remember man that when the shrooms start to work you're not just gonna be flooded with answers, enlightenment and clarity. That stuff doesn't happen until the comedown, you won't receive the answers you need for your human existence until after the peak is over so you also might want to find some kind of different intention as well for the first 3 hours of tripping (something transcendental or cosmic/spiritual) because you're not gonna want to be focused on your silly human problems those first 3 hours where time and space are wildly distorted and you are exposed to the inner workings of your mind.

Shrooms doesn't give a shit about your petty little human problems so I would wait until the comedown to "get a new perspective" on your problems.

Because mushrooms does not deal with you it deals with it. When you take LSD I feel it's more about you but when you take mushrooms it's more about it and your human concerns could not feel any less significant at that point.


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    #23587587 - 08/28/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Good luck on your journey then :mushroom2: :psychsplit:


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    #23587728 - 08/28/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Hey everyone I am very eager to embark on my first shrooms experience but I have an issue. I am in a very crazy hectic relationship everyday is basically regrets and fighting and I know most people will say just leave your relationship problem solved but there is so much more to it than that I.E. Kids etc.

I took the path of shrooms thinking it will show me some answers about all my life struggles but I am thinking will my current life situation cause it to be hell to trip? I know the importance of set and my life is hell but at the same time I feel mushrooms will show me guidance I think they hold the key as my sub conscious hold answers my conscious refuses access to.




You're a lot more likely to have a... difficult trip. The key is to remember it isn't a bad trip. There are no bad trips only bad experiences of life, which our subconscious projects onto us during psychedelic usage. I'm not a huge proponent of having the right setting and whatnot. Yes it helps, but I feel it can take away from the real experience you're meant to have. 9/10 trips I follow the proper set and setting "guidelines" that 10th time is just that trip I feel I need, and I don't care where it is or how it is.


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    #23588156 - 08/28/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Until then am just gonna try be as at peace as possible and have my set and setting appropriate and try trip to see what answers come through.




Just remember man that when the shrooms start to work you're not just gonna be flooded with answers, enlightenment and clarity. That stuff doesn't happen until the comedown, you won't receive the answers you need for your human existence until after the peak is over so you also might want to find some kind of different intention as well for the first 3 hours of tripping (something transcendental or cosmic/spiritual) because you're not gonna want to be focused on your silly human problems those first 3 hours where time and space are wildly distorted and you are exposed to the inner workings of your mind.

Shrooms doesn't give a shit about your petty little human problems so I would wait until the comedown to "get a new perspective" on your problems.

Because mushrooms does not deal with you it deals with it. When you take LSD I feel it's more about you but when you take mushrooms it's more about it and your human concerns could not feel any less significant at that point.




Right on. :mushroom2: Some trip enlightenments can take a while to integrate.  I had a somewhat difficult trip about 6 months ago that I'm still working on integrating (not a bad trip, just very heavy).  The stuff you experience during the trip can take on different meanings when you look at it later after you're sober too.  So it is worth it to wait before you make any drastic life changing decisions like making phone calls or running the streets with a message for humanity or something :lol:

Also, don't feel disappointed if you don't have some amazing revolutionary enlightenment from the trip. I've gained small things from trips before like realizing how I should play with my cats more or that I should spend more time visiting my parents before it's too late


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    #23588392 - 08/28/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Zymosis said: like realizing how I should play with my cats more or that I should spend more time visiting my parents before it's too late




Shrooms really do give you an interesting perspective on the people in your life like family/friends and in many cases even pets :smile:


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    #23589029 - 08/29/16 03:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

psychedelics dont give you the trip you want they give you the trip you need  :wink:


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