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Im terrible about seducing women
    #23584846 - 08/27/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

U guys have any tips?

I feel like a broken man, a total loser, since i cannot do it.

I feel like its just my burden i have to live with that i wish i didnt have :sad: :nonono:


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23585090 - 08/27/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Play the odds


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23585476 - 08/27/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

are u saying i should gamble it even thou the House always wins?


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23585671 - 08/28/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

What else are you going to do?

There's hookers, but otherwise just don't get hung up on rejection.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23585701 - 08/28/16 01:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Just loosen up a little, I know the feeling but I've gotten better at it over the years.:laugh:


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Rollin.n.Strollin] * 1
    #23588373 - 08/28/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If it's any consolation, I'm in your boat to. I don't know how to break the touch barrier. I can get plenty of dates but they never progress anywhere. I haven't given up yet though and you shouldn't either.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Skellies] * 2
    #23588883 - 08/29/16 12:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Start talking to her, ask her questions about herself, family relations, jobs, favorite thing to do...etc just get her to talk about something she cares and something she's passionate about. Its important to find a topic both of you can connect with in order to establish a bond. A woman needs to feel this bond first before she invites you to do anything else. If there is no connection than you are out of luck but the up side is you can always make a connection. There is always some topic both of can connect on, it all depends on your conversation skills

Make a couple of jokes or better yet ask what's a defect she finds in herself or what her nickname is and start picking on her LIGHTLY about it. In this stage she'll either touch you ''Oh stop it! *hits you lightly on the arm*'' or you can touch her, like a poke or whatever ''HEY UGLY! *POKE*''

While talking to her, every once in a while take a quick look at her lips and then straight back into her eyes. Repeat it a few times. It helps alerting her that you want to touch her lips.

Pay attention to subtle hints that women give off on when it's okay to kiss them, this includes;'
-tilting of the head when making conversation
-her nostrils flare up a bit
-leans closer to you
-doesn't get out of the car when you arrive at her place/doesn't immediately leave when saying goodnight
-she looks at your lips too


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23589500 - 08/29/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Are you generally good with social interaction with all humans LC?

If you are, then just apply the same things that make for a warm, connected, fun, exciting and interesting conversation.

If you're not, master the above first. Give it a couple of years, but shine your love and inner light to every human you meet (within reason) and you will become a master at seducing women. You'll probably find you don't even have to 'seduce' them... they'll fall for you.

Love, honesty, confidence, happiness, listening well, and lots of empathy are key here IMO.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Rosen_Rot] * 2
    #23589586 - 08/29/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Make a couple of jokes or better yet ask what's a defect she finds in herself or what her nickname is and start picking on her LIGHTLY about it. In this stage she'll either touch you ''Oh stop it! *hits you lightly on the arm*'' or you can touch her, like a poke or whatever ''HEY UGLY! *POKE*''



Totally wouldn't work for me. I don't like to be picked on, even lightly; although I don't get offended unless it's really egregious, it's still annoying. Same with being poked, super annoying.




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Pay attention to subtle hints that women give off on when it's okay to kiss them



If I've established that I feel positively about you, it's OK for you to kiss me. You might not know that, though, so if I know you're interested in me, I'll just go ahead and do it first.

I should give you guys the definitive female perspective on this topic. Basically, be yourself. If you're putting on an act, I can tell. I don't like it; it's insincere. Don't try to impress me. Don't invade my personal space (don't touch me unless I've told you it's OK, and if I have, treat my body with the utmost respect). Try to relax, but if you're nervous I don't mind, I'm understanding. I won't think you're a loser if you stutter or mix up your words; that might even be endearing.

Say anything except (implicitly or explicitly) asking me to satisfy your sexual need (I understand what you need, but convince me you're a good person first). If you say something romantic, I'll be judging you on how romantic you are. If you're not good at talking love, you're not my type. If you are, chances are I like you unless there's a really good reason for me not to. I like you even if you haven't said anything yet except your sincere words of love (I can tell if you're bullshitting me). If you say something sexual outside of a seductively romantic context right off the bat, I'll feel objectified (not cool).

Whatever you say, I'll take it at face value. Have a genuine interest in what you're saying or asking. If you're obviously just saying it for the sake of making conversation, I'll be thinking about how you can think of nothing worthwhile to say. Whatever you're interested in, tell me or ask me about it, or ask me what I'm interested in. I want you to try to get to know me. I want you to believe that I'm worth knowing as a person, not just as a body. If you're not good at conversation, I'll help you. If you started the conversation with something romantic and I liked it, I'll start talking to you about something non-romantic just to make sure you really want to get to know me.

If I get the feeling you're interested in me as a person, then I'm very likely to feel positively about you (obviously there are exceptions, but generally I will). Once I've established this, I'll be direct with you and let you know that whatever you answer is OK, I'm not testing you. Once I like you (you're sincere and genuinely interested in me and I'm not aware of a reason to dislike you), I try to figure out exactly what you want physically by asking you, so be honest. I'll be explicit.

If I like you I'm not going to cut off our connection because you ask me for something I'm not up for. I'll simply say no or not right now (take me literally, there may be something else I'd rather be doing at the moment) and we can carry on, no harm done. So don't worry. I'll have told you by this point that I like you, and that means our connection is stable, you won't offend me with your desires because you see me as another human being, not just an outlet to satisfy yourself. And if I am up for what you've told me you want to do, I'll do it with you. And there you go, you've seduced a woman. It's not hard unless you're a douchebag.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Alyssa]
    #23589700 - 08/29/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Great post Alyssa, I think we're both very much on the same page. Thank you for sharing that.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23589771 - 08/29/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Great post Alyssa, I think we're both very much on the same page. Thank you for sharing that.



My pleasure. You made it sound difficult, though. Do you really think this takes years to master or did I misunderstand?


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23593455 - 08/30/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I was never good at seducing women in the short-term, and my experience comes mostly from long-term relationships, however, I have noticed that women are really into buff upper bodies, so I would say you should start working out intensively. On the personality side, work on making yourself awesome: great friends, cool hobbies, good social skills, etc.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23609718 - 09/03/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Play the odds




This. It's a numbers game. 9 can say no only 1 needs to say yes.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Alyssa]
    #23609740 - 09/03/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Great post Alyssa, I think we're both very much on the same page. Thank you for sharing that.



My pleasure. You made it sound difficult, though. Do you really think this takes years to master or did I misunderstand?



I just think that being a very sociable human is not something that comes naturaly to all of us, for a vast array of reasons. We all have to work at it, just some more than others IMO. It took me a while, I can say that much, but it has been a focus for a long time and my skills have improved 100 fold.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23610276 - 09/04/16 06:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Im in the same boat too...I think personally I need to treat a Woman I like...not like a penitential GF when 1st talking to Her...but more like I am just talking to Her as I would anyone else?...otherwise I sound like a gibberish mess...which doesn't come off looking so sexy,strangely enough lol


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: happyherb]
    #23610581 - 09/04/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I got no problem getting the woman. Want I want to know is how to tolerate their presence in your everyday life.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Patlal]
    #23610937 - 09/04/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Whats your tek?

Or is it unexplainable?


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23611424 - 09/04/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
U guys have any tips?

I feel like a broken man, a total loser, since i cannot do it.

I feel like its just my burden i have to live with that i wish i didnt have :sad: :nonono:





just stop caring about other peoples opinions.
be happy with yourself and it shines through


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Patlal]
    #23611482 - 09/04/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Patlal said:
I got no problem getting the woman. Want I want to know is how to tolerate their presence in your everyday life.




Keep as much space as necessary until you're comfortable

Some people only see or talk to their SO every few days, or for short periods of time
I've seen happily married couples like that

I think people need more more space than they often realize


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23611538 - 09/04/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
Whats your tek?

Or is it unexplainable?




I don't really have a tek. All I do is I show up to the date and talk about whatever just as if I were talking to any other person. I don't change what I would say or do. I'd even go and call that a no-tek approach...

As for asking a girl out in person my tek is simple. Approach the girl and ask her out in the same exact way you would approach a mcdonald's employee to order a burger. Walk up, ask the question. Wait for answer.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Patlal]
    #23611682 - 09/04/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well put, there's nothing really complicated about flirting or asking someone out

"Do you have plans this weekend? I'm going to [], want to come with?"


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23613665 - 09/05/16 03:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

haha, its really that simple to ask a girl out?

Im guessing u dont ask strangers but girls that u *kinda* know already?


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23613677 - 09/05/16 03:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Realistically all seduction boils down to
"I think you are attractive and I want to rub my genitals against yours"
Wait for response and proceed accordingly.

Always worked well for me.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Bjorn_Stormcrow]
    #23613707 - 09/05/16 04:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Don't worry about it. Most of them just want to destroy you anyway. Have fun and see what happens.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Bjorn_Stormcrow]
    #23613735 - 09/05/16 04:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Ulfrick said:
Realistically all seduction boils down to
"I think you are attractive and I want to rub my genitals against yours"



I always approach from the opposite direction. Casually talk with the woman of my desire, being 100% myself throughout, and then wait for her to want my genitals inside her. Drop a few cues that I would enjoy that also and then proceed accordingly.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23613750 - 09/05/16 04:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Love is a numbers game

Expect to fail over and over


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23613800 - 09/05/16 05:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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howsyournaggerdoin said:
Love is a numbers game



I disagree with this statement. Finding a partner is a numbers game. Love (true love, the stuff that expects nothing) is a gift from the gods. All the numbers in the world won't bring it unless you've worked to deserve it.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23613821 - 09/05/16 05:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Guess we have to agree to disagree


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23613914 - 09/05/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hmmmmm

I liked that fast food employee reference :lol: I wonder if I should try and just be that direct. Thing is I'm a total stranger, like no common friends or nothing. Go big or go home I suppose


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23613918 - 09/05/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

how long ago did you an the gf breakup LC?


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23613957 - 09/05/16 07:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

OP just make friends. Think about how comfortable you are around friends, trying too hard to get laid feels uncomfortable. If you get comfortable, they will see you're confident, and as long as your intentions/feelings are clear, things will evolve naturally if they are meant to. I'm not saying to not put in effort, I'm just saying not everyone you want is going to want to fuck you. Half the battle is rejection, but if you present yourself as not only confident and understanding, as well as simply you, you're more likely to entice and wetten the panties you wish to enter. It sounds hecka cheese but just be yourself. And if the body language makes sense.. go for it(but not too aggressively). Nothing to lose. Regret is one of the few emotions you live with forever, right? Embarassment always seems to be funny after a while. I'd rather be potentially embarrassed/awkward and maybe get laid or meet someone cool, than to have regret and have no chance of either.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Sheekle]
    #23613992 - 09/05/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Sheekle said:
how long ago did you an the gf breakup LC?




We are still together in fact, its just im terrible at seducing girls (in general), and i wanted advice on how to seduce girls (in general) in order to help seduce my GF into having more sex with me.

Also, its also past tense, as in the past i was terrible at seducing girls and wanted to know what u guys did to get the girl.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23614063 - 09/05/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
haha, its really that simple to ask a girl out?

Im guessing u dont ask strangers but girls that u *kinda* know already?




I'll ask out a stranger, in the right environment.

At a show, maybe in a park, whatever.
Just need to start a conversation.

Your mileage may vary though, and its always a numbers game.
Even if you make a great impression, she could just be taken :shrug:


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23657112 - 09/18/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Another female perspective throwing my opinion into the conversation here.

Don't look at it like "seducing a woman". That implies that it's some sort of game that you have to win to get the right girl. That there's some sort of list out there of steps to complete that guarantee a woman will like you and that you just have to do the steps correctly to get the girl. Accept the fact that there are many women out there that you could possibly start a relationship with (be it only a one night stand, a few week or month long fling, or a long term relationship) because there is a mutual attraction and there are many more women out there that you will not be able to because there is lacking connection- on your side or her's.

Like other's have said, try to get out and make friends. Build your general social skills. Build yourself and make yourself an attractive person to be around, and then you will have an easier time appealing to a woman. Have hobbies, interests, a strong sense of self and you will be able to confidently approach a woman you're attracted to, start a conversation, and here's the most important part- if she finds you interesting and attractive and is open to the same type of relationship you're seeking- she will engage with you.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #23657532 - 09/19/16 01:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Solid advice Anom. #1.

Thank you.

I guess I made the assumption that all women enjoy being seduced by men :shrug:


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