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Im terrible about seducing women
    #23584846 - 08/27/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

U guys have any tips?

I feel like a broken man, a total loser, since i cannot do it.

I feel like its just my burden i have to live with that i wish i didnt have :sad: :nonono:


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23585090 - 08/27/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Play the odds


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23585476 - 08/27/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

are u saying i should gamble it even thou the House always wins?


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23585671 - 08/28/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

What else are you going to do?

There's hookers, but otherwise just don't get hung up on rejection.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23585701 - 08/28/16 01:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Just loosen up a little, I know the feeling but I've gotten better at it over the years.:laugh:


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Rollin.n.Strollin] * 1
    #23588373 - 08/28/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If it's any consolation, I'm in your boat to. I don't know how to break the touch barrier. I can get plenty of dates but they never progress anywhere. I haven't given up yet though and you shouldn't either.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Skellies] * 2
    #23588883 - 08/29/16 12:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Start talking to her, ask her questions about herself, family relations, jobs, favorite thing to do...etc just get her to talk about something she cares and something she's passionate about. Its important to find a topic both of you can connect with in order to establish a bond. A woman needs to feel this bond first before she invites you to do anything else. If there is no connection than you are out of luck but the up side is you can always make a connection. There is always some topic both of can connect on, it all depends on your conversation skills

Make a couple of jokes or better yet ask what's a defect she finds in herself or what her nickname is and start picking on her LIGHTLY about it. In this stage she'll either touch you ''Oh stop it! *hits you lightly on the arm*'' or you can touch her, like a poke or whatever ''HEY UGLY! *POKE*''

While talking to her, every once in a while take a quick look at her lips and then straight back into her eyes. Repeat it a few times. It helps alerting her that you want to touch her lips.

Pay attention to subtle hints that women give off on when it's okay to kiss them, this includes;'
-tilting of the head when making conversation
-her nostrils flare up a bit
-leans closer to you
-doesn't get out of the car when you arrive at her place/doesn't immediately leave when saying goodnight
-she looks at your lips too


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23589500 - 08/29/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Are you generally good with social interaction with all humans LC?

If you are, then just apply the same things that make for a warm, connected, fun, exciting and interesting conversation.

If you're not, master the above first. Give it a couple of years, but shine your love and inner light to every human you meet (within reason) and you will become a master at seducing women. You'll probably find you don't even have to 'seduce' them... they'll fall for you.

Love, honesty, confidence, happiness, listening well, and lots of empathy are key here IMO.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Rosen_Rot] * 2
    #23589586 - 08/29/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Rosen_Rot said:
Make a couple of jokes or better yet ask what's a defect she finds in herself or what her nickname is and start picking on her LIGHTLY about it. In this stage she'll either touch you ''Oh stop it! *hits you lightly on the arm*'' or you can touch her, like a poke or whatever ''HEY UGLY! *POKE*''



Totally wouldn't work for me. I don't like to be picked on, even lightly; although I don't get offended unless it's really egregious, it's still annoying. Same with being poked, super annoying.




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Pay attention to subtle hints that women give off on when it's okay to kiss them



If I've established that I feel positively about you, it's OK for you to kiss me. You might not know that, though, so if I know you're interested in me, I'll just go ahead and do it first.

I should give you guys the definitive female perspective on this topic. Basically, be yourself. If you're putting on an act, I can tell. I don't like it; it's insincere. Don't try to impress me. Don't invade my personal space (don't touch me unless I've told you it's OK, and if I have, treat my body with the utmost respect). Try to relax, but if you're nervous I don't mind, I'm understanding. I won't think you're a loser if you stutter or mix up your words; that might even be endearing.

Say anything except (implicitly or explicitly) asking me to satisfy your sexual need (I understand what you need, but convince me you're a good person first). If you say something romantic, I'll be judging you on how romantic you are. If you're not good at talking love, you're not my type. If you are, chances are I like you unless there's a really good reason for me not to. I like you even if you haven't said anything yet except your sincere words of love (I can tell if you're bullshitting me). If you say something sexual outside of a seductively romantic context right off the bat, I'll feel objectified (not cool).

Whatever you say, I'll take it at face value. Have a genuine interest in what you're saying or asking. If you're obviously just saying it for the sake of making conversation, I'll be thinking about how you can think of nothing worthwhile to say. Whatever you're interested in, tell me or ask me about it, or ask me what I'm interested in. I want you to try to get to know me. I want you to believe that I'm worth knowing as a person, not just as a body. If you're not good at conversation, I'll help you. If you started the conversation with something romantic and I liked it, I'll start talking to you about something non-romantic just to make sure you really want to get to know me.

If I get the feeling you're interested in me as a person, then I'm very likely to feel positively about you (obviously there are exceptions, but generally I will). Once I've established this, I'll be direct with you and let you know that whatever you answer is OK, I'm not testing you. Once I like you (you're sincere and genuinely interested in me and I'm not aware of a reason to dislike you), I try to figure out exactly what you want physically by asking you, so be honest. I'll be explicit.

If I like you I'm not going to cut off our connection because you ask me for something I'm not up for. I'll simply say no or not right now (take me literally, there may be something else I'd rather be doing at the moment) and we can carry on, no harm done. So don't worry. I'll have told you by this point that I like you, and that means our connection is stable, you won't offend me with your desires because you see me as another human being, not just an outlet to satisfy yourself. And if I am up for what you've told me you want to do, I'll do it with you. And there you go, you've seduced a woman. It's not hard unless you're a douchebag.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Alyssa]
    #23589700 - 08/29/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Great post Alyssa, I think we're both very much on the same page. Thank you for sharing that.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23589771 - 08/29/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Great post Alyssa, I think we're both very much on the same page. Thank you for sharing that.



My pleasure. You made it sound difficult, though. Do you really think this takes years to master or did I misunderstand?


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23593455 - 08/30/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I was never good at seducing women in the short-term, and my experience comes mostly from long-term relationships, however, I have noticed that women are really into buff upper bodies, so I would say you should start working out intensively. On the personality side, work on making yourself awesome: great friends, cool hobbies, good social skills, etc.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23609718 - 09/03/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Play the odds




This. It's a numbers game. 9 can say no only 1 needs to say yes.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Alyssa]
    #23609740 - 09/03/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Great post Alyssa, I think we're both very much on the same page. Thank you for sharing that.



My pleasure. You made it sound difficult, though. Do you really think this takes years to master or did I misunderstand?



I just think that being a very sociable human is not something that comes naturaly to all of us, for a vast array of reasons. We all have to work at it, just some more than others IMO. It took me a while, I can say that much, but it has been a focus for a long time and my skills have improved 100 fold.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23610276 - 09/04/16 06:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Im in the same boat too...I think personally I need to treat a Woman I like...not like a penitential GF when 1st talking to Her...but more like I am just talking to Her as I would anyone else?...otherwise I sound like a gibberish mess...which doesn't come off looking so sexy,strangely enough lol


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: happyherb]
    #23610581 - 09/04/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I got no problem getting the woman. Want I want to know is how to tolerate their presence in your everyday life.


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Patlal]
    #23610937 - 09/04/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Whats your tek?

Or is it unexplainable?


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23611424 - 09/04/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
U guys have any tips?

I feel like a broken man, a total loser, since i cannot do it.

I feel like its just my burden i have to live with that i wish i didnt have :sad: :nonono:





just stop caring about other peoples opinions.
be happy with yourself and it shines through


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: Patlal]
    #23611482 - 09/04/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Patlal said:
I got no problem getting the woman. Want I want to know is how to tolerate their presence in your everyday life.




Keep as much space as necessary until you're comfortable

Some people only see or talk to their SO every few days, or for short periods of time
I've seen happily married couples like that

I think people need more more space than they often realize


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Re: Im terrible about seducing women [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23611538 - 09/04/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Whats your tek?

Or is it unexplainable?




I don't really have a tek. All I do is I show up to the date and talk about whatever just as if I were talking to any other person. I don't change what I would say or do. I'd even go and call that a no-tek approach...

As for asking a girl out in person my tek is simple. Approach the girl and ask her out in the same exact way you would approach a mcdonald's employee to order a burger. Walk up, ask the question. Wait for answer.


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