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cantthinkofname
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Are these safe to eat?(Reishi?)
#23583046 - 08/27/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just wanted to make sure these mushrooms are safe, I plan on making a tea out of them if they are. I think these are Ganoderma Lucidum but didn't know if there were any poisonous look alikes. Also the biggest one looks like it might have been partially eaten by bugs because of all the holes, should I just not use it?



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cotafilipe
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growing in pine it will most likely be G. tsugae instead of G. lucidum, the latter prefers hardwood deciduous trees.
Wait for a ti for confirmation
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Re: Are these safe to eat?(Reishi?) [Re: cotafilipe]
#23583263 - 08/27/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The holes in those are surprising because they have a nice white outer grow ring which is fresh growth. Looks to be growing on a hemlock so I'd say Tsugae. You can sometimes draw bugs out of them by putting them on a bed of dry rice overnight. Some bugs will migrate to the rice, then chuck the rice.
If you slice and dry them in the oven at 160F that will also kill any larvae that may be in there. Some people freeze them too for the same reason.
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cantthinkofname
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cotafilipe said: growing in pine it will most likely be G. tsugae instead of G. lucidum, the latter prefers hardwood deciduous trees.
Wait for a ti for confirmation
cheers
Thanks for the info. This actually was not growing on a pine but a different type of tree with similar bark.
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Psychedelic Pupil said: The holes in those are surprising because they have a nice white outer grow ring which is fresh growth. Looks to be growing on a hemlock so I'd say Tsugae. You can sometimes draw bugs out of them by putting them on a bed of dry rice overnight. Some bugs will migrate to the rice, then chuck the rice.
If you slice and dry them in the oven at 160F that will also kill any larvae that may be in there. Some people freeze them too for the same reason.
Thanks, I'll put the bug free ones in the freezer. Also could I just skip the step of drying them and let the heat from the water kill the larvae?
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This is not G.tsugae and not G.lucidum... G.tsugae has a white flesh. And G.lucidum has a stem and is much much shinier. This appears to be a member of the G.resinaceum complex. Where are you located and can you give more details about the tree, those do appear to be pine needles scattered about.
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Re: Are these safe to eat?(Reishi?) [Re: Mrcloudy]
#23584117 - 08/27/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mrcloudy said: This is not G.tsugae and not G.lucidum... G.tsugae has a white flesh. And G.lucidum has a stem and is much much shinier. This appears to be a member of the G.resinaceum complex. Where are you located and can you give more details about the tree, those do appear to be pine needles scattered about.
Interesting. This has started to make me question some of my finds this year. The top 2 pics don't look like tsugae (or at least what I thought I've been collecting as tsugae) The last picture does though. I didn't notice at first but the top pics do look more "puffy" then what I've been collecting.
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The puffiness is likely from a very wet period following a relatively dry period, the mushroom has a lot of stored up energy and conditions have become more favorable resulting in increased growth. This can happen with most Ganoderma species. The most important thing to note with these ones is the way they are attached to the tree, no stem. G.tsugae and G.curtisii can grow without a stem sometimes, but not often. G.sessile and other members of the resinaceum complex rarely grow stems.
And to reiterate, the most important feature to look at to determine whether you have G.tsugae or not will be whether it has a white flesh, sometimes cream, never brown. Though it can sometimes have a thin band directly above the pore tubes. G.tsugae is typically stipitate with a laterally attached stipe growing off the tree at right angles, though if the conditions are right the stipe can be attached at any angle, including from above. Usually grows on Eastern Hemlock (Tsuga canadensis) though rarely will fruit on other trees such as Oak, Maple, or Birch. No other red Ganoderma grows on Eastern Hemlock, though G.oregonense grows on Western Hemlock.
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Re: Are these safe to eat?(Reishi?) [Re: Mrcloudy]
#23585899 - 08/28/16 06:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Awesome! Thank you for the info here and on the other thread about the orange coloring
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Mrcloudy
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No problem, always glad to help.
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Re: Are these safe to eat?(Reishi?) [Re: Mrcloudy]
#23586028 - 08/28/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mrcloudy said: The puffiness is likely from a very wet period following a relatively dry period, the mushroom has a lot of stored up energy and conditions have become more favorable resulting in increased growth. This can happen with most Ganoderma species.
This is exactly how the weather has been in my area lately. I will go back and take pictures of the tree it was growing on but it might be a couple days before I get back there as it's a pretty long walk to this spot. One thing I'm certain of though is that it had leaves instead of pine needles. Sorry for not giving more information from the start, I'm in central Florida and the habitat is predominantly pine but there are oaks, palms, and other trees which I'm not able to identify. Also does this species have health benefits? Thanks for the help.
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Mrcloudy
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Given the information you provided, this is Ganoderma sessile. There have been no scientific studies examining G.sessile for its potential medicinal content at this time.
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