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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: Kinko] * 1
    #23585085 - 08/27/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Wait what.. what bomb did Einstein create ?





Einstein, among other scientists, urged the USA to create the atomic bomb during WWII, due to fears that Nazi Germany would create one first. It basically kicked off the Manhattan project. Einstein held deep regrets about becoming involved in the arms race in any way, IIRC.


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: Rhizohunter]
    #23585089 - 08/27/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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stupidity is observed by the interpreter...




You're right. I'm observing your "the ruler" thread and it is, in my humble opinion, stupid as fuck!


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: Penelope_Tree] * 1
    #23585092 - 08/27/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Also, I'm pretty sure the definition of infinity is incorrect in OP. Infinity is basically a concept to represent something that is unending. Doesn't have anything to do with expecting a change; it is a constant.


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: Penelope_Tree] * 1
    #23585104 - 08/27/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Do you believe in miracles?


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: Great Scott] * 2
    #23585107 - 08/27/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I believe in a thing called Love.


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
    #23585113 - 08/27/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, love is very important in this world.


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
    #23585117 - 08/27/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

We live a miracle everyday by simply existing , nothing is pre determined so anything can happen hence " miracles ".    Chances of you waking up each day and not dying in this universe is one in a trillion.... Well shit maybe there is a God after all.


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
    #23585119 - 08/27/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Also, I'm pretty sure the definition of infinity is incorrect in OP. Infinity is basically a concept to represent something that is unending. Doesn't have anything to do with expecting a change; it is a constant.




So you're telling me that it's impossible to be locked in an endless cycle; a constant of life, and have a hope of or an expectation of something ending differently this time around? An illusion like free-will?


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: Kinko]
    #23585124 - 08/27/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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We live a miracle everyday by simply existing , nothing is pre determined so anything can happen hence " miracles ".    Chances of you waking up each day and not dying in this universe is one in a trillion.... Well shit maybe there is a God after all.




Nothing is pre-determined? I think that it's almost common knowledge that every beginning has an ending of some sort.

Also, what is the only time you are without choice in this life?
The moment you are born!
Some even say the moment you die is another moment you are without choice. The best rebuttal to this is "suicide", where you chose to opt out early. But this leads to more convoluted thoughts, like... well maybe it was all part of some divine plan beyond your comprehension or human ability to even fathom.


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: PartoftheSource] * 1
    #23585136 - 08/27/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Pre-dertemination is about how something ends, not whether or not it ends.


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23585139 - 08/27/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Also, I'm pretty sure the definition of infinity is incorrect in OP. Infinity is basically a concept to represent something that is unending. Doesn't have anything to do with expecting a change; it is a constant.




So you're telling me that it's impossible to be locked in an endless cycle; a constant of life, and have a hope of or an expectation of something ending differently this time around? An illusion like free-will?




Uh, no. I just explained to you what the concept of infinity was and the subtle nuance OP missed. I made no extrapolations as to the nature of life or philosophy.


You would have a lot of fun in the Philosophy, Sociology, & Psychology sub-forum, though.


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
    #23585143 - 08/27/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

He would have a lot of fun chasing leprechauns.


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23585165 - 08/27/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Pre-dertemination is about how something ends, not whether or not it ends.




You guys are splitting cunt hair with your semantics.

Predetermination is the ordaining of events beforehand.

The ending to any beginning seems like an event to me.


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
    #23585173 - 08/27/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Also, I'm pretty sure the definition of infinity is incorrect in OP. Infinity is basically a concept to represent something that is unending. Doesn't have anything to do with expecting a change; it is a constant.




So you're telling me that it's impossible to be locked in an endless cycle; a constant of life, and have a hope of or an expectation of something ending differently this time around? An illusion like free-will?




Uh, no. I just explained to you what the concept of infinity was and the subtle nuance OP missed. I made no extrapolations as to the nature of life or philosophy.


You would have a lot of fun in the Philosophy, Sociology, & Psychology sub-forum, though.




Expecting a change isn't the same as changing that which is unchangeable. It is called high hopes. 

I'm going to use the same argument you guys use - "Uh no, you are just wrong"


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23585174 - 08/27/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No, I'm not splitting hairs with you, I'm using words according to their definitions.


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23585194 - 08/27/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Pre-dertemination is about how something ends, not whether or not it ends.





Predetermination is the ordaining of events beforehand.

The ending to any beginning seems like a predetermined event to me.




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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23585202 - 08/27/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That doesn't even support your position. It supports mine.


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23585209 - 08/27/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Pre-dertemination is about how something ends, not whether or not it ends.





Predetermination is the ordaining of events beforehand.

The ending to any beginning seems like a predetermined event to me.






Hmm what ending ?? There is no ending but a new beginning


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23585211 - 08/27/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No it doesn't. You are arguing that the claim every beginning has some sort of ending isn't a predetermined event because I don't know how exactly the ending goes. I am saying that just knowing there will be an ending that it's a predetermined event.


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Re: Infinity... Insanity... What's the difference? [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23585217 - 08/27/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Who's to say it's an ending ? Miracles show us anything can happen


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