|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
GataoSpores
Stranger

Registered: 08/25/16
Posts: 16
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
|
First PF Tek with B+ Advice
#23580882 - 08/26/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
I started my first PF Tek exactly 7 days ago and all seems to be going well. Below is the best jar:
]
9 out of the 12 jars that I inoculated have varying mycelium like the one above. Should I wait for the other 3 to start or is it a done deal? Anything I could do to get them going?
|
mrmazdarx9
Pffffttt


Registered: 05/15/16
Posts: 9,796
Loc: behind you
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: GataoSpores]
#23580888 - 08/26/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
GataoSpores said: I started my first PF Tek exactly 7 days ago and all seems to be going well. Below is the best jar:

9 out of the 12 jars that I inoculated have varying mycelium like the one above. Should I wait for the other 3 to start or is it a done deal? Anything I could do to get them going?
I can't seem to zoom for some reason but 7 days is nothing keep waiting try not to disturb them much
-------------------- COCA GROWERS come here and share your knowledge COCA GROWERS UNITE
Click here for UK trades
need some supplies in the UK check Here or PM me UK OTD uk members chat UK supplies and trade OTD place to chat shit Right Here If you use "SWIM" you should DROWN
|
Nobler Hino
a dojo and a forge?!


Registered: 08/29/15
Posts: 1,780
Loc: Deep Ellum
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23581056 - 08/26/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Wait
--------------------
   "The sacred mushroom takes me by the hand and brings me to the world where everything is known. It is they, the sacred mushrooms, that speak in a way I can understand. I ask them and they answer me.” – Maria Sabina
|
bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,889
Loc: Milky way
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: Nobler Hino]
#23581099 - 08/26/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
foil should come off after sterilization.
|
GataoSpores
Stranger

Registered: 08/25/16
Posts: 16
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: bodhisatta]
#23581106 - 08/26/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Thank you! I will do right away.
|
Greg
always learning




Registered: 10/28/15
Posts: 1,536
Loc: an autoclave
Last seen: 3 months, 3 days
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: GataoSpores]
#23581291 - 08/26/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Fixed the links so the image expands, if anyone wants to take a closer look.
|
mrmazdarx9
Pffffttt


Registered: 05/15/16
Posts: 9,796
Loc: behind you
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: Greg]
#23582597 - 08/27/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
I'm no expert but the top bit looks a bit fluffy possible contam I had a jar that was like that I still got a few flushes out of it. I have a jar in my garage that got a bit of green in it so I left in the garage alone the green took a lot of the jar but the myc has pulled it back and now just a tiny area left, I'm never gonna use the fruits if any grow just interesting to watch
-------------------- COCA GROWERS come here and share your knowledge COCA GROWERS UNITE
Click here for UK trades
need some supplies in the UK check Here or PM me UK OTD uk members chat UK supplies and trade OTD place to chat shit Right Here If you use "SWIM" you should DROWN
|
GataoSpores
Stranger

Registered: 08/25/16
Posts: 16
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23625716 - 09/08/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Its now been 3 weeks and Im a little impatient with the progress. This one seems to be average from the 12 I inoculated (only 10 have mycelium):

Thoughts?
|
GataoSpores
Stranger

Registered: 08/25/16
Posts: 16
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: GataoSpores]
#23625719 - 09/08/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
This one seems to have the beginnings of possible heads? Please advise...
|
GataoSpores
Stranger

Registered: 08/25/16
Posts: 16
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: GataoSpores]
#23625723 - 09/08/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I have these odd marshmallow smearings in several jars. Anyone encountered this?


|
mrmazdarx9
Pffffttt


Registered: 05/15/16
Posts: 9,796
Loc: behind you
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: GataoSpores]
#23625725 - 09/08/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
If your getting pins (i cant make any out but its awkward in pics) birth it dunk for 24 hours and roll in dry verm then set in sgfc fan and mist when needed I think its bacterial
-------------------- COCA GROWERS come here and share your knowledge COCA GROWERS UNITE
Click here for UK trades
need some supplies in the UK check Here or PM me UK OTD uk members chat UK supplies and trade OTD place to chat shit Right Here If you use "SWIM" you should DROWN
|
Nobler Hino
a dojo and a forge?!


Registered: 08/29/15
Posts: 1,780
Loc: Deep Ellum
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: GataoSpores]
#23625728 - 09/08/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Contam city my friend, id toss
--------------------
   "The sacred mushroom takes me by the hand and brings me to the world where everything is known. It is they, the sacred mushrooms, that speak in a way I can understand. I ask them and they answer me.” – Maria Sabina
|
mrmazdarx9
Pffffttt


Registered: 05/15/16
Posts: 9,796
Loc: behind you
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: Nobler Hino]
#23625735 - 09/08/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Nobler Hino said: Contam city my friend, id toss
It might still flush it is rather bacterial but no killer contams that I can see
-------------------- COCA GROWERS come here and share your knowledge COCA GROWERS UNITE
Click here for UK trades
need some supplies in the UK check Here or PM me UK OTD uk members chat UK supplies and trade OTD place to chat shit Right Here If you use "SWIM" you should DROWN
|
GataoSpores
Stranger

Registered: 08/25/16
Posts: 16
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23625766 - 09/08/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
where are the contams that you see?
|
GataoSpores
Stranger

Registered: 08/25/16
Posts: 16
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23625771 - 09/08/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Since Im new at this, what is meant by bacterial?
|
GataoSpores
Stranger

Registered: 08/25/16
Posts: 16
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23625776 - 09/08/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
by dunk, you mean dunk them in water for 24?
|
mrmazdarx9
Pffffttt


Registered: 05/15/16
Posts: 9,796
Loc: behind you
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: GataoSpores]
#23625801 - 09/08/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I can't see any contams which basically kill a jar molds and such bacterial jars look sort of custardy but more often than not you'll still get a flush from a bacterial jar depending on severity. And yes dunk under regular tap water for 24 hours then roll in some dry verm making it as completely covered as possible then put in sgfc, I then like to leave it 12 hours or longer to give the myc chance to grab hold of the verm before I start spraying and misting
-------------------- COCA GROWERS come here and share your knowledge COCA GROWERS UNITE
Click here for UK trades
need some supplies in the UK check Here or PM me UK OTD uk members chat UK supplies and trade OTD place to chat shit Right Here If you use "SWIM" you should DROWN
|
Mushierage
SWIM Sinker



Registered: 06/29/16
Posts: 1,094
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23625807 - 09/08/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
The jars that are ice creamy looking are definitely bacterial. You may still be able to get some fruits off them if mold doesn't get them first.
If the jars stall, I would immediately birth them and get them in a FC, with as much FAE as humanly possible.
-------------------- Don't like researching posts? Read this! . Also, if you're new and your posts contain the words: Humidifer, incubator, air-stone, or heater, then you need to read and UTFSE before asking people to review your setup. OR... You should be cultivating reptiles and fish, not mushrooms.
  
|
Nobler Hino
a dojo and a forge?!


Registered: 08/29/15
Posts: 1,780
Loc: Deep Ellum
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23626037 - 09/08/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
mrmazdarx9 said:
Quote:
Nobler Hino said: Contam city my friend, id toss
It might still flush it is rather bacterial but no killer contams that I can see
I dont tolerate jars like that, maybe you do
--------------------
   "The sacred mushroom takes me by the hand and brings me to the world where everything is known. It is they, the sacred mushrooms, that speak in a way I can understand. I ask them and they answer me.” – Maria Sabina
|
mrmazdarx9
Pffffttt


Registered: 05/15/16
Posts: 9,796
Loc: behind you
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: Nobler Hino]
#23626047 - 09/08/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Nobler Hino said:
Quote:
mrmazdarx9 said:
Quote:
Nobler Hino said: Contam city my friend, id toss
It might still flush it is rather bacterial but no killer contams that I can see
I dont tolerate jars like that, maybe you do
Unnecessary dig, also its not necessary to bin everything just a waste IMO it'll still produce fruits just because its not ascetically pleasing to your eye doesn't mean it should be binned
-------------------- COCA GROWERS come here and share your knowledge COCA GROWERS UNITE
Click here for UK trades
need some supplies in the UK check Here or PM me UK OTD uk members chat UK supplies and trade OTD place to chat shit Right Here If you use "SWIM" you should DROWN
|
GataoSpores
Stranger

Registered: 08/25/16
Posts: 16
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23626061 - 09/08/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
When dunking I am assuming you take it out of the jar? As a newbie I am also not familiar with ¨sgfc¨ Please explain. Thanks so much for your help!
|
GataoSpores
Stranger

Registered: 08/25/16
Posts: 16
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: Mushierage]
#23626070 - 09/08/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
This is my first foray so please explain FC and FAE. Thanks!
|
Mushierage
SWIM Sinker



Registered: 06/29/16
Posts: 1,094
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23626076 - 09/08/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I agree. The last bulk tray I did was quite bacterial, and it was B+. Resilient little fuckers. Ended up pulling about a two zips dry off that tray, which wasn't bad at all.
There is really no reason to bin a bacterial cake. If it were spawn that might be a different story, I wouldn't use it colonize a bulk sub. But you could still out it in a tray, case it by itself, and get a few fruits off of it anyway.
I never bin bacterial cakes or spawn. As log as you give them plenty of fresh air in the fruiting chamber, they actually do just fine. Just maybe some reduced yields/flushes.
-------------------- Don't like researching posts? Read this! . Also, if you're new and your posts contain the words: Humidifer, incubator, air-stone, or heater, then you need to read and UTFSE before asking people to review your setup. OR... You should be cultivating reptiles and fish, not mushrooms.
  
|
Mushierage
SWIM Sinker



Registered: 06/29/16
Posts: 1,094
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: Mushierage]
#23626080 - 09/08/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
FC = Fruiting Chamber FAE = Fresh Air Exchanges. SGFC = Shotgun Fruiting Chanber (it's just a tub with 1/4" holes in a grid every two inches in all 6 sides of your tub including the bottom. 4-6 inches of moist perlite is then placed in the bottom for humidity control. Place cakes or trays insides. This gives them constant fresh air and allows humidity to rise and fall to encourage pinning. Must be misted 2x day, fanning is optional, but suggested.)
-------------------- Don't like researching posts? Read this! . Also, if you're new and your posts contain the words: Humidifer, incubator, air-stone, or heater, then you need to read and UTFSE before asking people to review your setup. OR... You should be cultivating reptiles and fish, not mushrooms.
  
|
mrmazdarx9
Pffffttt


Registered: 05/15/16
Posts: 9,796
Loc: behind you
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: GataoSpores]
#23626081 - 09/08/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah remove from jar just turn it upside down and bang it on something should slide out just don't smash the jar Sgfc Shotgun fruiting chamber Basically a large clear tote/storage box with 1/4" holes drilled in a grid pattern each 2" apart do every surface including lid and bottom and elevate it from the floor to allow air flow, if you follow that to the letter you will have a perfect sgfc
 Mine My first attempt before I learned of Pf tek
 Bacterial as fuck
1st flush
 2nd flush
 3rd flush
 28g turns to dust cracker dry potent enough for me
Edited by mrmazdarx9 (09/08/16 03:48 PM)
|
mushboy
modboy



Registered: 04/24/05
Posts: 32,281
Loc: where?
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: Mushierage]
#23626091 - 09/08/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
is that duct tape? dont be like mushboy and use duct tape.
|
GataoSpores
Stranger

Registered: 08/25/16
Posts: 16
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: mushboy]
#23628347 - 09/09/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Can someone please tell me specifically how to ¨dunk¨?
|
bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,889
Loc: Milky way
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: GataoSpores]
#23628357 - 09/09/16 08:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Put in water
|
mrmazdarx9
Pffffttt


Registered: 05/15/16
Posts: 9,796
Loc: behind you
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: bodhisatta]
#23628450 - 09/09/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Trusted Cultivator said: Put in water
and put something on top of it to make sure it stays fully submerged in the water, I use the jar they came out of with some water to weight it down
-------------------- COCA GROWERS come here and share your knowledge COCA GROWERS UNITE
Click here for UK trades
need some supplies in the UK check Here or PM me UK OTD uk members chat UK supplies and trade OTD place to chat shit Right Here If you use "SWIM" you should DROWN
|
GataoSpores
Stranger

Registered: 08/25/16
Posts: 16
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23682906 - 09/27/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I am getting a little scared because overnight in my fruiting chamber the mushies went from white stemmed to this odd greenish color. Should I be worried? I read about some trich being this color and am really worried about what to do. Please let me know if you need more info/pictures.


|
bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,889
Loc: Milky way
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: GataoSpores]
#23682915 - 09/27/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Oh they're just suffocating but that's what happens when you think your Fruiting chamber is better than following the directions of the one thats been time tested and proven for a dozen years by thousands of people  

Edited by bodhisatta (09/27/16 11:54 AM)
|
GataoSpores
Stranger

Registered: 08/25/16
Posts: 16
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: bodhisatta]
#23682939 - 09/27/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
This is my first grow and I am asking for guidance. You did not ask me what my fruiting chamber was. Why are you such a sanctimonious jerk?
|
bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,889
Loc: Milky way
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: GataoSpores]
#23682951 - 09/27/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
 Well it's pretty obvious it works for shit is it not?
Being a jerk is spending time answering questions for free and writing guides to help people do this?

Fuck me for wanting your mushrooms to look better am i right?
|
GataoSpores
Stranger

Registered: 08/25/16
Posts: 16
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: bodhisatta]
#23682973 - 09/27/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Where did I ¨think your Fruiting chamber is better than following the directions of the one thats been time tested and proven for a dozen years by thousands of people¨?
You made an assumption and insulted me for no reason so, yeah, youre a sanctimonious jerk.
|
bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,889
Loc: Milky way
|
Re: First PF Tek with B+ Advice [Re: bodhisatta]
#23682986 - 09/27/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
bodhisatta said: Oh they're just suffocating but that's what happens when you think your Fruiting chamber is better than following the directions of the one thats been time tested and proven for a dozen years by thousands of people
you poop head
Show me the insult?
It's a statement.
They're obviously suffocating. Please learn about these organisms and what they would like. I don't enjoy seeing shroom abuse
Resources available in signature.
Also
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?where=body&tosearch=both&how=all&words=Evaporation+surface+microclimate&namebox=bodhisatta&newerval=1&newertype=y&limit=25&showmain=1&sort=r&way=d
Edited by bodhisatta (09/27/16 11:49 AM)
|
|