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Re: Why pay a lawyer to expunge criminal record? [Re: Enlil]
#23581575 - 08/26/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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What about the "7 year rule" with background checks? Does anyone know anything about this?
Also, do you really want to work for a company that is going to defer you based on something you weren't even convicted for?
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Re: Why pay a lawyer to expunge criminal record? [Re: PartoftheSource]
#23581588 - 08/26/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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My guess would be that the more prestigious and selective the company (or position) is, the more likely they would be to decline me based on my arrest record.
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It sounds like that sort of company is going to chew you up and spit you out eventually. And when I say eventually, I mean after they've given you enough raises over the years that you become too expensive an asset to where they can just hire someone new in, young and fresh, for a lot less money.
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Re: Why pay a lawyer to expunge criminal record? [Re: PartoftheSource]
#23581684 - 08/26/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Either way I would just like not to have to worry about it.
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Re: Why pay a lawyer to expunge criminal record? [Re: Enlil]
#23581734 - 08/26/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: That's not how it works. If he pled guilty, that plea is withdrawn after he completes his probation, and the charges are dismissed. No conviction will appear on his record.
What?? Is that how it works for all crime? Or just what OP was charged for?
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Crystal G said: What?? Is that how it works for all crime? Or just what OP was charged for?
That's how a diversion works. That's not how most plea deals work, no.
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Celestial Traveler said: My guess would be that the more prestigious and selective the company (or position) is, the more likely they would be to decline me based on my arrest record.
In Cali, it's illegal for them to even ask about arrests that don't lead to conviction.
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Re: Why pay a lawyer to expunge criminal record? [Re: Shroomslip]
#23581924 - 08/26/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil do you know if there's any truth to this?
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Shroomslip said: I dunno if he was full of shit, if it was even my lawyer who said it or if it still applies but I seem to remember being told you only get one chance to get that stuff wiped off your record and if the court sides against you, you're screwed. So you want someone who knows the system and knows how to work it to handle it so you don't screw yourself out of the opportunity. .
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I've never heard of an expungement being denied, truthfully.
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Re: Why pay a lawyer to expunge criminal record? [Re: Enlil]
#23581981 - 08/26/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I petitioned the court once to have my felony dropped to a misdemeanor (as per the probationary plea agreement since I had a successful completion with no violations). They told me I had to fuckin' pay off my court costs before they would even consider it. FUCKERS! It's always about money.
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Re: Why pay a lawyer to expunge criminal record? [Re: Enlil]
#23581984 - 08/26/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So no other issues could arise from not using a lawyer? I was wondering if the lawyer could also help make private firms delete their arrest records as well.
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Re: Why pay a lawyer to expunge criminal record? [Re: PartoftheSource]
#23581988 - 08/26/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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PartoftheSource said: What about the "7 year rule" with background checks? Does anyone know anything about this?
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They will delete after the expungement anyway. It takes some time, but it happens automatically.
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Re: Why pay a lawyer to expunge criminal record? [Re: PartoftheSource]
#23582067 - 08/26/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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PartoftheSource said: What about the "7 year rule" with background checks? Does anyone know anything about this?
Also, do you really want to work for a company that is going to defer you based on something you weren't even convicted for?
Im assuming its different company policies and not something that has to do with the court. Ive applied at places who say it needs to have been 7 years since your felony to apply to the job. Some say it needs to be 10. My felony was dismissed before it went to court, so i always tell them i was never convicted and that works fine. However, i had a misdemeanor charge for marijuana 3 years ago and most company policies (for the jobs i was applying for) said the misdemeanors need to be 5 years back. Some companies have a zero tolerance policy and deny you no matter how long its been. So even if it was dismissed after completion of probation, if it hasnt been expunged, you will still be denied. Its gay but its the truth.
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Re: Why pay a lawyer to expunge criminal record? [Re: Ogla]
#23584706 - 08/27/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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losfreddy said:
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PartoftheSource said: What about the "7 year rule" with background checks? Does anyone know anything about this?
Also, do you really want to work for a company that is going to defer you based on something you weren't even convicted for?
Im assuming its different company policies and not something that has to do with the court. Ive applied at places who say it needs to have been 7 years since your felony to apply to the job. Some say it needs to be 10. My felony was dismissed before it went to court, so i always tell them i was never convicted and that works fine. However, i had a misdemeanor charge for marijuana 3 years ago and most company policies (for the jobs i was applying for) said the misdemeanors need to be 5 years back. Some companies have a zero tolerance policy and deny you no matter how long its been. So even if it was dismissed after completion of probation, if it hasnt been expunged, you will still be denied. Its gay but its the truth.
It depends on the amount of income.
For company records and employment background checks, they are able to go back 7 years. But that's only if the income you will be making is less than $75,000. If it's more than $75,000 they can check back much further.
The last company I worked with never found my DUI that I got over 11 years ago. And they probably looked into my background more extensively than anybody else.
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Re: Why pay a lawyer to expunge criminal record? [Re: Crystal G]
#23584717 - 08/27/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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That only applies in a minority of states.
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Re: Why pay a lawyer to expunge criminal record? [Re: Enlil]
#23584784 - 08/27/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: That only applies in a minority of states.
What is it normally in other states?
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#23584796 - 08/27/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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We are so lucky to have Enlil here. Seriously. No sarcasm.
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Re: Why pay a lawyer to expunge criminal record? [Re: Crystal G]
#23584839 - 08/27/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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What is it normally in other states?
Unlimited time for criminal background. Credit is seven years federally.
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Re: Why pay a lawyer to expunge criminal record? [Re: Enlil]
#23586723 - 08/28/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil,
If you look at the following form, on page 4/5 there is a place to list organizations whom should be ordered to delete the arrest record. Do you know where I should begin on this? If there are some that I leave out, can I go back later and add them?
http://texaslawhelp.org/files/685E99A9-A3EB-6584-CA74-137E0474AE2C/attachments/905B79CB-3290-4133-B0F8-64141E594D91/expunction_petition_final.pdf
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1. The Police agency that arrested you 2. Any jail you attended 3. Department of Corrections 4. Probation Department 5. Texas Bureau of Criminal investigation.
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