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Re: Effects of DMT vs Mushrooms? [Re: mushpunx]
    #23582379 - 08/27/16 02:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Mushrooms and DMT are similar but also unique and different. The mushrooms spirits have a very different personality from the DMT spirit. They both take you to hyperspace in high doses.


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Re: Effects of DMT vs Mushrooms? [Re: cinderblock]
    #23582794 - 08/27/16 08:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Right, you could say the same thing about apples. All the different types like Pink Lady came from the same apple. But they all taste different now.




No no no....lol

All psychedelic trips are different. Not all apples are different. When we say different we're talking drastically. You can't say that about anything other than psychedelics bro not even other drugs. The apple analogy does not work.


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Re: Effects of DMT vs Mushrooms? [Re: mushpunx]
    #23582800 - 08/27/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I think the term "strain" confuses people. Variety is the preferred term. Mushrooms aren't plants, so "steain" means something other than what we are used to




I'm pretty sure the word strain has nothing to do with plants. For example there's different strains of diseases.


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Re: Effects of DMT vs Mushrooms? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23584409 - 08/27/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Right, you could say the same thing about apples. All the different types like Pink Lady came from the same apple. But they all taste different now.




No no no....lol

All psychedelic trips are different. Not all apples are different. When we say different we're talking drastically. You can't say that about anything other than psychedelics bro not even other drugs. The apple analogy does not work.




You're being petty and taking me too literally. Just like an apple scientist could be petty and say no two apples are alike.

I was using the apple as a broader comparison. Obviously apples aren't psychedelic...

As for mushroom trips, the B+ I had was pretty predictable at 8-13 grams - visual augmentation of whatever you were seeing. Same superficial distortion happened each and every time. I had no interest in taking any more than the amount I was taking either. There was no "trip" to B+. It just distorted what you were looking at more and more and more as you upped the dose, but you were perfectly conscious. No ethereal dream state like the Z.


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Re: Effects of DMT vs Mushrooms? [Re: cinderblock]
    #23584938 - 08/27/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Don't see how pointing this out makes me "petty" exactly because ideally enough no opinion should be more petty than any other opinion here.

I'm not suggesting that you said they were psychedelic or in anyway similar they clearly aren't I'm just saying you can't really apply an analogy like that to it because it being so different every time is only really unique to psychedelics in the fashion we're talking about so it just seems petty to try an compare it to something so mundane and consistent.
That's my opinion.

All mushrooms have been pretty spiritual for me unless we're talking weak stuff.


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Re: Effects of DMT vs Mushrooms? [Re: cinderblock]
    #23814329 - 11/08/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've done 6gs of the B+ strain and had DMT visuals. I saw the machine elves and everything. It was wow factor for sure. Strongest shroom trip I ever had. No concept of what day it was and the visuals even with my eyes open tried to go fractal. With my eyes shut I was seeing rotating faces morphing into what looked liked king faces or megatronish look. Also got a little demonic for some reason but very beautiful colors and was teaching me that I was everything. It was a pretty much a 4 hour dmt trip. Can't wait to try it again. Nice to know I can reach that realm on shrooms too.


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Re: Effects of DMT vs Mushrooms? [Re: Kho82]
    #23825889 - 11/12/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I just tried dmt for the first time and I definitely broke through enough to get very strong visuals. Like being transported to a spaceship full of little PAC mans going around on tracks. It was very beautiful but there was something missing compare to a 5g mushroom trip or aya. It's hard to explain but the realm it took me to has a fundamentally different quality. It is as if the entity in charge were a machine intelligence rather than an organic entity. There was no download, no message. Just pretty pictures. I was disappointed but figured the best strategy was to thank it for showing me what it had. The experience was positive but not something I feel drawn back to.

On mushrooms there is always another "someone" in the room, be it a hidden part of my own consciousness or the spirit of the mushroom or an entity on the other side of the portal or something we just don't have language to describe. Sometimes it is quite harsh but always fair and the visuals are much more organic in nature rather than like computer graphics. At 5g they can be just as intense.

Can anyone else relate to what I describe or did I need to take a fourth hit off the pipe?


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Re: Effects of DMT vs Mushrooms? [Re: TGS]
    #23829714 - 11/13/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I agree with at least parts of what you said about mushrooms and that other presence that often enters the room especially when done in darkness.

What's interesting is the visuals and just feelings overall with psilocybin can be both organic and digital or maybe technological would be the right word? Anyways I tend to see technoscapes and giant complicated and sometimes menacing machines under the influence of psilocybin despite its also organic and textured nature. It can feel both simultaneously exotic and science fiction, both simultaneously alien and elfin. It can be pretty bizarre.

Also I feel like on high doses on psilocybin everything's clear and organized but on higher doses of LSD things get kind of disorganized. Apparently the natural tryptamines are all very similar in their organization and structure.


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