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UPDATED: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry/Horse Manure Based Cake * 1
    #23577432 - 08/25/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hey guys, I just removed this substrate and added it to a fruiting chamber. Unfortunately, the existing mushrooms were bruised while removing it from the bag (the cake fit very snuggly inside). This is rye berry substrate with a horse manure/straw based substrate layer. I inoculated the rye berries with about 7cc of a Ecuador MS syringe and allowed the bag to colonize over the course of 5-6 weeks or so until mushrooms began appearing.

This is my first grow, so I was a bit worried it is contaminated. The bottom of the cake had some brownish liquid on it, so I am not sure if it is bacillus or simply metabolites from the mycelium. It smells fine and has a noticeable (but not overly pungent) earthy scent. In the pictures, I rotated the cake at different angles so you can get an idea of what I am referring to (please excuse my poor bruised mushrooms). As you can see from the pics, the bottom of the mycelium is stained a brownish tinge. The good news is, there are already some mushrooms and lots of new "knots"/primordia if I look closely.

Do you guys think it is okay? I appreciate your evaluation and feedback on this! It's been a fun grow either way.

Update 1:
Added a layer of aluminum foil under the cake to get it off of the perlite per cronicr's recommendation (Thanks man!).

Update 2:
Added new images of the current progress of the cake (8/30). After further observation and research, I believe part of the bottom of the cake (some of the rye grain) may have been contaminated with bacillus. Since it was still fruiting healthy mushrooms, I decided to cut away the suspect area and throw it out. Since then, I have picked the aborts and some nice and fat mushrooms have begun growing in their place with new pins forming as well. Does everything look healthy? Quick question, why are some of the new mushrooms skinny and others really large and fat? I used a MS syringe, so maybe this variation is normal? Thanks everyone for your help. By the way, just inoculated BRF jars with PE, Albino PE, and Albino A+! I will create a new log when those begin showing signs of growth. :smile:

Update 3:
Here are some updated images from this morning (8/31). Seems like some decent growth on the existing mushrooms :eek: and some new pins. The dark spots are from me picking some aborts that were growing right next to those mushrooms and accidentally bruising them a bit :frown:. As requested, I have also added a pic of the cake inside the actual fruiting chamber (yea very small, but I plan to make a larger one for my next batch since I will have more cakes). If you have any issues with the grow that you want to point out, feel free! I welcome any tips. Thanks everyone for taking a look! :rockon:

Update 4 (9/1):
This morning I woke up to my first non-abort mushrooms ready for harvest. From the pic, you can see that some of the caps and stems became dry and cracked leading to the bruising :frown:. A shroomery member mentioned that they thought the cake was dry, and I should have listened. I harvested the mushrooms and dried them until cracker dry. I ended up with about 3g dry from those (not including the aborts I harvested before). In order to try to remedy the cake's dryness, I dunked the cake in icy water (not sure if this is even necessary but many sources said this was to prevent bacterial growth) for 9 hours. My question is, based on the pic do you guys think the dryness is the problem? Did I let it soak long enough? I plan to do the same after the next flush. It seems to look much better and the visible mycelium under the cake seems to be re-hydrated. I mist and fan, so I am assuming the cake dryness is due to the fact that I did not dunk it before birthing it?

Update 5 (9/10):
I updated with the latest flush coming in. This h-poo/rye berry cake is still randomly spitting out some mushies here and there lol. I believe the cake is fighting bacteria due to the metabolites it continues to make. I will continue to let this cake produce until it is spent, but this may be my last update. I have learned a lot from this first grow and am currently waiting for my Agar and 10 Quart WBS jars to finish colonizing to get some bulk grows of APE going. :smile: Thanks for taking a look! If you see any issues, feel free to let me know!

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UPDATED PICS (8/31):
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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: br33zy]
    #23577454 - 08/25/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Don't sit it rite on the perlite


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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: cronicr]
    #23577468 - 08/25/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Woops... noob mistake. I added aluminum foil under it to correct the issue. Thank you!


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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: br33zy]
    #23578140 - 08/25/16 11:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No thoughts on the possible contam issue though?


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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: br33zy]
    #23595360 - 08/30/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Update 2:
Added new images of the current progress of the cake. After further observation and research, I believe part of the bottom of the cake (some of the rye grain) may have been contaminated with bacillus. Since it was still fruiting healthy mushrooms, I decided to cut away the suspect area and throw it out. Since then, I have picked the aborts and some nice and fat mushrooms have begun growing in their place with new pins forming as well. Does everything look healthy? Quick question, why are some of the new mushrooms skinny and others really large and fat? I used a MS syringe, so maybe this variation is normal? Thanks everyone for your help. By the way, just inoculated BRF jars with PE, Albino PE, and Albino A+! I will create a new log when those begin showing signs of growth. :smile:

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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: br33zy]
    #23595418 - 08/30/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

was that from a bag?
they can fruit inside the bag.

next time break it up and mix with coco or other easy bulk spawn and mono tub it
but yay for fruits!!!!


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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: mushboy]
    #23595475 - 08/30/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yea it was from a grow bag (rye berry then horse manure based casing). I wanted to get it out of the bag due to the bacteria problem and wanted to try a SGFC. Yea I plan to try a monotub grow once I have my first experience with BRF cakes! I think I may try agar as well. :smile:


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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: br33zy]
    #23595715 - 08/30/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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br33zy said:
rye berry then horse manure based casing)




manure casing? or manure spawn?? im confused :thisguy:


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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: mushboy]
    #23595888 - 08/30/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yea that didn't make much sense lol sorry. Still learning and mixed up terms. The horse manure was a part of the substrate mix (rye berries and horse manure based). Any idea on the question I had about how half of my mushrooms are larger and fat while some are really skinny?


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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: br33zy]
    #23595967 - 08/30/16 11:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

MS grows will fruit what they want, when they want to fruit. There are thousands of mommies and daddies in there-all shittin' out different weird-ass kids.

There is not too much you can do to fix that-other than get into agar work and begin cloning something-cleaning it up-and going bulk with your cleaned clone.

You are posting a lot of really big images of items that we DO care about-however, I would love to get some pictures of your entire fruiting chamber.

Those big youngsters are starting to look really awesome.

I've had PF tek cakes abort all over the cake and grow 4-5 extremely large mushrooms. The same set of cakes gave birth to 15-20 small mushrooms that were a bit below average in size-but still weighed up real nice!

Don't fret too hard at this point-post some pics of your grow room and let's see what's going on!


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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: morty422]
    #23597780 - 08/31/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Update 3:
Here are some updated images from this morning (8/31). Seems like some decent growth on the existing mushrooms :eek: and some new pins. The dark spots are from me picking some aborts that were growing right next to those mushrooms and accidentally bruising them a bit :frown:. As requested, I have also added a pic of the cake inside the actual fruiting chamber (yea very small, but I plan to make a larger one for my next batch since I will have more cakes). If you have any issues with the grow that you want to point out, feel free! I welcome any tips. Thanks everyone for taking a look!

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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: br33zy]
    #23597819 - 08/31/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Is it just me, or does that cake look dry?

If it dry, you may want to bottom water for a couple hours, and only spray a light mist over the surface so it can evap and bring on more pins. 

Though....that might be all you get until the 2nd flush comes.


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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: Mushierage]
    #23597823 - 08/31/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Also, you have too much foil.  Remove excess so humid fresh air is hitting it from what rises up through the perlite.    Just a suggestion


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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: Mushierage]
    #23597873 - 08/31/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think the cake is dry, it seems pretty moist, but I will keep an eye on it. Maybe it is just the lighting that is making it seem that way? I had a bright light pointed at it during the photographs. I plan to dunk though after this flush to rehydrate. Thanks for the tip on the foil! I cut it down to a smaller size! :sunny:


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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: br33zy]
    #23597932 - 08/31/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looking good so far


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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: Wigwunk]
    #23602582 - 09/01/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Update 4 (9/1):
This morning I woke up to my first non-abort mushrooms ready for harvest. From the pic, you can see that some of the caps and stems became dry and cracked leading to the bruising :frown:. A shroomery member mentioned that they thought the cake was dry, and I should have listened. I harvested the mushrooms and dried them until cracker dry. I ended up with about 3g dry from those (not including the aborts I harvested before). In order to try to remedy the cake's dryness, I dunked the cake in icy water (not sure if this is even necessary but many sources said this was to prevent bacterial growth) for 9 hours. My question is, based on the pic do you guys think the dryness is the problem? Did I let it soak long enough? I plan to do the same after the next flush. It seems to look much better and the visible mycelium under the cake seems to be re-hydrated. I mist and fan, so I am assuming the cake dryness is due to the fact that I did not dunk it before birthing it?

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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: Mushierage]
    #23602587 - 09/01/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You were right... should have listened lol. Thanks man.
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Mushierage said:
Is it just me, or does that cake look dry?

If it dry, you may want to bottom water for a couple hours, and only spray a light mist over the surface so it can evap and bring on more pins. 

Though....that might be all you get until the 2nd flush comes.




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Re: How's it looking?/First Grow. Ecuador Strain. Rye Berry /w Manure Based Casing [Re: br33zy]
    #23633752 - 09/10/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Update 5 (9/10):
I updated with the latest flush coming in. This h-poo/rye berry cake is still randomly spitting out some mushies here and there lol. I believe the cake is fighting bacteria due to the metabolites it continues to make. I will continue to let this cake produce until it is spent, but this may be my last update. I have learned a lot from this first grow and am currently waiting for my Agar and 10 Quart WBS jars to finish colonizing to get some bulk grows of APE going. :smile: Thanks for taking a look! If you see any issues, feel free to let me know!

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