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InvisibleEl Torcho
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How's my plan sound?
    #23577272 - 08/25/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have experienced shrooms on more than a few occasions, and now want to try to grow my next experience.

I'm not looking to grow a shit load or do it on a regular basis, at least for now :wink:. I'd like to grow some decently potent as well as friendly-to-first-timer strain.

My alleged plan is to order a spore syringe from a sponsor, along with a grow bag of pre-sterilized/prepared rye grain. Letting this colonize, and then mixing with a bagged pre-sterlized/prepared compost based bulk mix. I'd like to fruit in the bag, but I know this can be finicky to get right. I wouldn't be opposed to making a real cheap/basic monotub either. I don't want to get invested a shit-ton of money into this for now one-time plan, hence why I'd like to just do it in a bag. I also live with roomies, but I have a large room and they let me go about my business with out too much hassle. I have a closet, not walk-in but pretty big. I also have access to a storage closet that is unconditioned air. No heat/AC, but insulated. I can leave the storage closet door open to get the conditioned air in there, but that would be the only air movement.  It is slightly larger than my closet, but still not walk-in and the ceiling is only about 4.5'. I could also just leave it a corner of my room, but the a/c blows pretty good in my room trying to keep it at about 73/74, and that would be easiest for someone to spot. . .

I am planning on ordering the B+ strain because I've heard it can be fairly potent as well as forgiving to first-timers. Should I just resign to getting a cheap monotub instead of a grow bag? Where would you fruit? Closet, storage closet, or in room? It's still hot and humid here, hence then need for a/c all the time in my room. Room is generally about 73, but can spike to 80f or so during the heat of the day, with fairly constant 45% RH.

I would like to start this alleged plan in the next few weeks. I was hoping on trying to get an outdoor flush out of the 'spent' cakes by mixing with some compost/hay and doing the moes tek thing. Hopefully fall conditions would be favorable this year. . . 

Thanks in advance.

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Re: How's my plan sound? [Re: El Torcho]
    #23577368 - 08/25/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

the first two links in my signature go to the AMU and TNF. they each have recommended TEKS and methods threads in their "home" forum. I would start there.

strongly suggest not buying spawn or substrate. but rather making your own. a pressure cooker will cost you 70$ new for a presto 23q in the states. that's less than what it costs to order all the spawn and substrate etc... and you'll forever be able to make your own, or make awesome canned goods and roasts.

B+ GT whatever else. they all are just spores when you get them. any variety of P.cubensis can produce garbage or awesome shrooms. you need to clone, use agar, and do some work to keep good genetics and strains you want to grow. when you shoot spores into a grow you have 100s of strains and average potency. no variety is going to give you a leg up over any other one. aside from Penis Envy varieties which also yield less and take longer in most cases. so I would just pick one at random and go with it.

after reading the monotub threads you should get an idea of just how ideal your room is and how little the room matters so long as there's some air flow.


in the AMU and TNF you'll find a lot of up to date info laid out really nice like this

First watch these videos. I suggest starting with agar. it's very easy to do in a SAB. Look how easy it is.

How frank gets shit done
This is franks post with links to his teks.
Frank is one of our Trusted Cultivators.


Tips and tricksLot's of good stuff in here.

Preparing grain spawn
What to do with that spawn? Coir prep Tek

Know you want to do monotubs right away?

Frank's 12 steps to shrooms (a mono tek for beginners)

Monotubs/Grain spawn
How to get started

1. Make grain spawn WBS is used in the TEK(I use rye)
Frank's WBS Prep (perfect every time)

or use oats
2. If you want to expand your grain jars without individual inoculation use G2G transfers
Grain to grain in a SAB
Also
TL's take on G2G with video

3. Now you should have colonized grain spawn, time to make a bulk substrate to spawn to.
Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek
I personally use coir
Frank's hpoo substrate, revisited
poo works too

4. That substrate has to be pasteurized, here's some info to clear up any confusion about pasteurization
Frank's Proper Pasteurization Tek 3.0

5. Ok you have spawn and bulk substrate, time to mix them
Frank's Bulk Spawning Tek (in a monotub)

6. Additional monotub info for best results
How to dial in your monotubs like a boss


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