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Making cannabis edibles without heating
    #23576242 - 08/25/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Could you throw some nugs in coconut oil or some other fat/oil medium and let it sit for long enough that the lipids extract the cannabinoids?
Would sunlight speed up the process?


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Re: Making cannabis edibles without heating [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23576252 - 08/25/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

From my understanding flower/concentrate needs to be decarbed before it is orally active and that requires heat.


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Re: Making cannabis edibles without heating [Re: Big Worm]
    #23576268 - 08/25/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I thought decarboxylation could occur by drying the flower 100%?


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Re: Making cannabis edibles without heating [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23576275 - 08/25/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It probably occurs to a degree but not nearly as efficiently as heating up a fat/oil and cannabis mixture.


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Re: Making cannabis edibles without heating [Re: musiclover420]
    #23576292 - 08/25/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I figured I could just allow it to sit in a warm sunny spot for several weeks.
I would use ethanol, but I don't drink alcohol so it's not really an option.

Doesn't ethanol activate cannabinoids?
Couldn't I just evap the alcohol and then just suspend the resulting product in coconut oil?


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Re: Making cannabis edibles without heating [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23576316 - 08/25/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yes grinding the weed to a dust-like consistency adding it to a fat and leaving it to sit (especially in the sun) for a long time will make it active.

Not sure on how long it needs to sit (most likely 10x long or longer than how long you heat it up for) but it will eventually be active.

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Re: Making cannabis edibles without heating [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23576323 - 08/25/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You should look at some temp/time decarb charts. Different temp/time ratios will effect the decarbing process and the end product.

If I remember correctly hotter/longer ones end up with more sedating cannabinoids and short/ cooler ones don't decarb enough. But there is a sweetspot in the middle somewhere where you end up with the most original cannabinoid profile when decarbing. I want to say its in the 200-250F for 30-40 minutes area but its been so long I am not positive.


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Re: Making cannabis edibles without heating [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23576326 - 08/25/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've had success with alcohol.

Throw herb into a bottle of everclear and sit for a few days or weeks. Then when it's ready, melt sugar and water on the stove to liquid, add the weed/everclear. Mix it up and it's essentially Marijuanacello. Tastes really good, and one shot is enough.

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Re: Making cannabis edibles without heating [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23576329 - 08/25/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Was responding to the OP, didn't see the post about not drinking.

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Re: Making cannabis edibles without heating [Re: musiclover420]
    #23576331 - 08/25/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

But what about making an ethanol derived concentrate and just working with the end product?


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Re: Making cannabis edibles without heating [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23576339 - 08/25/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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But what about making an ethanol derived concentrate and just working with the end product?




Like do an alcohol soak, evap it and use that? That is how people make Alcohol hash/ oil essentially which can be added to edibles.

Usually the evap process is plenty of time to decarb decently, I do an extra day in a dehydrate once its dry to make sure all the alcohol is gone too.

My last batch had ground up bud and alcohol oil added as well as some greener hash and came out insanely potent :eek:

On its own alcohol oil might give a bit of distinct effects. What is your goal for this? Really potent edibles?


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Re: Making cannabis edibles without heating [Re: musiclover420]
    #23576351 - 08/25/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Trying to make medicine for my IBS.
Cooking isn't currently an option since I moved back in with my parents for a few months while I search for a new place.
They're cool with me making edibles if it doesn't produce any smell, which cooking would.
I could just cook it up at a friend's house, but there's something appealing about preparing the solution and letting it sit and do it's thing over an extended length of time.


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Re: Making cannabis edibles without heating [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23576550 - 08/25/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You could try decarbing your weed in some tinfoil, and letting it sit infront of a sunny window for like a day. Slow cook that motherfucker, then do with it what you will.

Have no idea if it'd work, but I've heard of people doing that - I always just popped mine in the oven at 200 for a bit.

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Re: Making cannabis edibles without heating [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23576915 - 08/25/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds like an alcohol extraction could be the way to go then. It still makes some smell but its not nearly as pungent as cooking with plant matter.

Be careful with long alcohol pulls as it will end up getting a lot of chlorophyll and other plant matter if it too long.

Might not be as big an issue for edibles though :shrug:


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Re: Making cannabis edibles without heating [Re: musiclover420]
    #23576933 - 08/25/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Sounds like an alcohol extraction could be the way to go then. It still makes some smell but its not nearly as pungent as cooking with plant matter.

Be careful with long alcohol pulls as it will end up getting a lot of chlorophyll and other plant matter if it too long.

Might not be as big an issue for edibles though :shrug:



I think you still need to decarb if you're not going to let it sit for a couple - few weeks. Having a green tincture isn't too bad if you're using it as an ingredient. Can use a cheesecloth to get the bulky mess out.

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Re: Making cannabis edibles without heating [Re: musiclover420]
    #23576940 - 08/25/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

ifff it worked by sunlight chances are it would be weak as fuck & you would waste most of the weed

on the stove you have it set at 200+ degrees


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