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InvisibleSclorch
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How NOT to debate...
    #2357602 - 02/20/04 03:04 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I ran into this just tonight.
For me, it's an articulation of all the bullshit conversational tactics used by lesser minds.  Now you can know exactly how a bullshitter annoys you. :wink:
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Ad Hominem Variants
OVER YOUR HEAD 
EVEN YOU 
YOU'LL GET OVER IT 
WISHFUL THINKING 

Sleight of Mind Fallacies
NIT-PICKING 
OUT OF CONTEXT 
I'M NOT SAYING THIS 
HEAT-SEEKING QUESTION 
RIGHT BY ASSOCIATION 
CHEAP SHOT
THE SALESMAN'S CLOSE 
BOMBAST 
THINK VS. FEEL
LUNATIC FRINGE
CUT 'EM OFF AT THE PASS 
DENIAL OF A VALID CONCLUSION 

Delay Tactics
DESCRIBE THE ANSWER 
DESCRIBE THE QUESTION
QUESTION THE QUESTION / COMMENT 
BRAIN SEIZURE
WORD SALAD, a.k.a. SESQUIPEDALIANISM 
REVERSE THE QUESTION 
START A STORY 
OBVIOUS ANSWER 

Question As Opportunity
"THIS OR THAT" 
"X IS ONE ISSUE, Y IS ANOTHER"

General Cheap Shot Tactics and Irritants
HYPOTHETICAL INSULT
COMPLIMENTARY INSULT 
DISTORTED ACTIVE LISTENING 
NAME IT 
I KNOW BETTER 
SELECTIVE MEMORY 
STUDIES HAVE SHOWN 
REPEAT OFFENDER, a.k.a. SLOGAN RESPONSES 
KNEE JERK 
LOOK AT YOU 
SELECTIVE QUOTATION 
FAST ANSWER 
YOU'LL PAY FOR THAT 
PRETEND AD HOMINEM
LISTEN UP 
FILIBUSTER 

All this and more can be found here:
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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Sclorch]
    #2358772 - 02/20/04 11:42 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

*cuts you off at the pass*
:grin:
Peace.


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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Sclorch]
    #2358873 - 02/20/04 12:20 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

So.. where is the How to Debate?  :rolleyes:


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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Zero7a1]
    #2359086 - 02/20/04 01:26 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

"How to" comes from consciously NOT applying any of the tactics above while still conversing.  It's really not that hard.  We're doing it right now.  :wink:


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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Sclorch]
    #2361033 - 02/20/04 10:08 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

CyberChump is like totally confused.


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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Sclorch]
    #2361049 - 02/20/04 10:14 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I like this list, perhaps you, or anyone could give a short example of each thing listed, so we can understand it better. I understand about half of them like: start a story, reverse the question, so on, but what do these mean:HEAT-SEEKING QUESTION, BOMBAST, PRETEND AD HOMINEM, and theres a few more but I will settle with those. thx


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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Sclorch]
    #2362607 - 02/21/04 04:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Excuse me, sir, but you are using cruel tactics; you are making us bullshitters look HORRIBLE DUDE!!

I'd call that a "cheap-shot" to we shitters of bull


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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2366306 - 02/22/04 01:49 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

>perhaps you, or anyone could give a short example of each thing listed

-For a complete list of examples, click HERE
:smirk:

I don't know if this counts as a CHEAP SHOT or a FAST ANSWER.


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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #2366337 - 02/22/04 01:56 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

:lol:

I think that's a cheap shot...


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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Sclorch]
    #2369502 - 02/22/04 10:02 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

this is way over my head. haha.


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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Sclorch]
    #2370002 - 02/23/04 12:04 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Nice link Sclorch..

That just might come in handy!

Thanx

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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #2370224 - 02/23/04 01:10 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

:wink: :thumbup:


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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Sclorch]
    #2373092 - 02/23/04 07:42 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I guess that is how a majority of the people mass debate. It comes in handy when you can't score any other way. Such arguements are really discuss-ting.


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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2373152 - 02/23/04 08:08 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

SpecialEd said:
Such arguements are really discuss-ting.




*groan* lol! :lol: I love a bad pun!  :thumbup:


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Re: How NOT to debate... [Re: Le_Canard]
    #2373267 - 02/23/04 08:52 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You will not be disappointed with me.  When I get wound up, I can go on for hours. :lol:


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