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Making cannabis infused coconut oil or butter with a half ounce
    #23575016 - 08/25/16 04:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hi Guys,

I am determined to finally make strong effective medical cannabis edibles for myself.

In the past I have had very little luck with edibles, either my own or those made by others.

They never seem to work for me, but I need them for medical and practical reasons.

So I have two questions for the community that I would DEEPLY appreciate answers to.

1. What is the easiest, most fool proof, most efficient way to make strong cannabis coconut oil for a beginner?

2. Is a half ounce of strong bud enough to make oil out of? How many strong edibles/doses would that make approximately?

Any other tips?

I need something simple, easy and effective to make strong edibles out of a half ounce of cannabis buds.

Any tips, tricks, resources etc appreciated!

Thank you!

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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23575018 - 08/25/16 04:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Coconut oil?? Just make canna butter!


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: desant]
    #23575028 - 08/25/16 04:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ok thats fine too, but can you give me a really simple break down of the most fool proof way to do it?

I just cant afford to screw this up! In the past my attempts didnt work for some reason and I cant let that happen again!

I am investing 100 dollars into this batch of butter so I want to make sure I make them as potent as possible.


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23575035 - 08/25/16 04:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ok as far as I know, canna butter is the most cost effective, simple potent and versatile way to make eatables... unfortunately I don't have the recipe, this tek came from Overgrow and since it was taken down I donno what happened to it, do a search see if u come up with something good :shrug:


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: desant]
    #23575037 - 08/25/16 04:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Even generally though, do you use a pot, a pan, the oven?


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: desant]
    #23575040 - 08/25/16 04:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I found something

https://overgrow.com/growfaq/content/62/62/en/how-do-i-make-cannabutter.html


But it's no good, it's simplified , shortened and with no pictures


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: desant]
    #23575043 - 08/25/16 05:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Moonshoe said:
Even generally though, do you use a pot, a pan, the oven?





A pot  mon.


And your in luck! I found a good tek !

https://overgrow.com/growfaq/content/62/1178/en/hacksaws-tasty-cannabutter-recipe.html


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: desant]
    #23575047 - 08/25/16 05:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you!

:thanx: :japsmile:


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23575048 - 08/25/16 05:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Have fun with your eatables. Let us know how it worked out for u :feelshighman:


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23575050 - 08/25/16 05:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: NobodyYouKnow]
    #23575066 - 08/25/16 05:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks guys! How many doses do you think a half ounce of bud should make in edibles?

Like how many cookies should I make the butter into?


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23575078 - 08/25/16 05:54 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The only way to find that out is to eat one... or two... or three.... everyone's different but shouldn't take you too many cookies to find your sweet spot. Work out how much butter you are going to use in your cookies first, then you can think about doses.


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23575079 - 08/25/16 05:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

20-30 cookies?


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: desant]
    #23576146 - 08/25/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

In the past I have had good results with crock pots, as for most effective its hard to say.

Instead of starting with a large batch you could also try a few different 1~gram fire cracker like experiments to see what works best for you.


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: musiclover420]
    #23576155 - 08/25/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I used to use a crockpot.    Then I switched over to a Magical Butter machine.


Too easy.


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: Big Worm]
    #23576209 - 08/25/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Finely grind flower and mix into half a cup (or more) of melted coconut oil. Put in an oven safe dish and bake at 250F for 30 mins to decarb. Don't strain the oil and bake into whatever you want.

That's how a recreational edible manufacturer in Colorado taught me how to do it :shrug:. I've never had a weak batch from this method.


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil or butter with a half ounce [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23576265 - 08/25/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Depending on your tolerance, half an ounce should be quite a bit of doses.

How Ive done it with great sucess is grind up the bud, throw into a brownie mix at the "mixing stage" then bake for the time requested by the box.

There is also the double boiler method, but i havent tried it yet. Basically, u have two pots stack ontop each other. Bottom pot has boiling water, top pot (that hovers inside the bottom pot, but doesnt sit inside. Aka sits on the rim of the bottom pot) contains the butter.

By using hot steam to cook your butter, u prevent burning the butter. U can put oil or butter, i think butter tastes better personally.

Then double boil your weed and oil/butter mix. Not sure the ratio, but put enough butter/oil to completely saturate the ground-up bud material.

After doubling boiling for a couple hours, u can strain then freeze the butter in the fridge or just leave the green matter in the butter. Up to you...


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil or butter with a half ounce [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23576305 - 08/25/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I prefer the Everclear extract method. 

I break up an ounce of good weed and put it in the oven on 240 for 40 min, then put it in a mason jar and cover the weed x2 with everclear.  Shake it up for 3 min. filter and boil outside in a rice cooker until I get enough to fill a shot glass.  Sit the shot glass on a shelf for a day or two, and you get either hash oil or just hash

It's fucking awesome.  Since I baked it I can just put a drop under my tongue or mix it with a drink and get high as fuck. 

You can smoke it too.


Edit: I'm actually high off a weed oatmeal and raisin cookie I made out of the extract.  It's a great high, way different than smoking weed


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil or butter with a half ounce [Re: Kenetic]
    #23576575 - 08/25/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I love canna coconut oil.

First grind up ya weeds, and wrap that in tinfoil on a baking sheet - I actually have this ceramic bowl I use for that. I usually put mine in the oven at 200 or max 220 for about a half hour or 45 minutes. Then heat up the coconut oil so that you get it to a liquid consistency enough so that you can stir in the decarbed weed. I don't normally strain because it's a pain in the ass, but you could if you want, then freeze.


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: desant] * 1
    #23576580 - 08/25/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Coconut oil?? Just make canna butter!



coconut oil is much better for both edibles and health reasons


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #23576595 - 08/25/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Is there anything coconut oil isn't better for? I even had this wicked gash on my arm from an offroading accident a while ago, it was getting super infected and looked horrible. It wasn't really healing very well. Then my lady suggested coconut oil, it scabbed up in a day or two, then the scab fell off not long after. Which is great because it was rubbing on my work uniform. But yeah, coconut oil is so much better for an infusion. Tastier too. I have a jar I keep around and just eat a spoonful or two when I want that dank body high. Butter can probably be as potent but oil is easier to work with imo. It just seems more consistent for whatever reason.


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #23576614 - 08/25/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Coconut oil?? Just make canna butter!



coconut oil is much better for both edibles and health reasons




It's better for making edibles but is pretty bad for you health-wise.


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: falsereality]
    #23576622 - 08/25/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Compared to butter of all things? :lol:


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23576644 - 08/25/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Compared to butter of all things? :lol:




Yep http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/coconut-oil


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: falsereality] * 1
    #23576756 - 08/25/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Compared to butter of all things? :lol:




Yep http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/coconut-oil




So its worse becouse it contains 90 saturated fat instead of 64% like butter? :rolleyes:

Also from that link:

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But what's interesting about coconut oil is that it also gives "good" HDL cholesterol a boost. Fat in the diet, whether it's saturated or unsaturated, tends to nudge HDL levels up, but coconut oil seems to be especially potent at doing so.

Saturated fat is divided into various types, based on the number of carbon atoms in the molecule, and about half of the saturated fat in coconut oil is the 12-carbon variety, called lauric acid. That is a higher percentage than in most other oils, and is probably responsible for the unusual HDL effects of coconut oil. But plant-based oils are more than just fats. They contain many antioxidants and other substances, so their overall effects on health can't be predicted just by the changes in LDL and HDL.

But, for now, I'd use coconut oil sparingly. Most of the research so far has consisted of short-term studies to examine its effect on cholesterol levels. We don't really know how coconut oil affects heart disease. And I don't think coconut oil is as healthful as vegetable oils like olive oil and soybean oil, which are mainly unsaturated fat and therefore both lower LDL and increase HDL. Coconut oil's special HDL-boosting effect may make it "less bad" than the high saturated fat content would indicate, but it's still probably not the best choice among the many available oils to reduce the risk of heart disease.




So it might be less healthy for the heart pretty much but is also healthier then other oils in other ways :shrug:


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: musiclover420]
    #23576939 - 08/25/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil or butter with a half ounce [Re: Kenetic]
    #23577035 - 08/25/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

This is the best way to make butter. 

Grind your herb up, wrap in foil but makes sure the weed is spread out (or put in baking dish and wrap foil over top, you want the herb to evenly heat), and put in the oven at 230 degree F for 20 minutes or so.  This is the decarboxylation step.  It's important if you want your edibles to be dank.

If I had a half oz, I would use 2 sticks of butter if I wanted potent, 4 sticks if I wanted something more manageable that I could munch on because cookies are good.

Melt the butter into a small pot on medium heat while the herb is decarbing.

Once the butter is melted and the herb has decarbed, add the herb to the melted butter and mix it in well.  You don't want the butter to simmer. 

Once the herb and butter is mixed together, add water to the pot.  The water pulls cholorphyll from the herb, making it easier on the stomach and it also prevents the butter from overcooking and burning off THC.  Bring the water to a boil, then reduce heat so it is at a simmmer.  Make sure the water doesn't boil away or you'll end up boiling your butter and reducing potency.

Let simmer for an hour or two, add some more water if you have to.  I hear the longer you let it simmer the stronger it gets, but my edibles always come out very potent after an hour or two of simmering (depends on how much time you have.  An hour will work).

Once the time is up, turn the heat off and let cool a little bit and then cover and put in the fridge overnight. 

In the morning, the water and butter will have formed two layers.  The butter will be on top and some nasty ass water will be on the bottom.  I tend to take a knife and run it around the rim of the butter and gently lift it and place on a paper towel and then pour the water out.

Then cook accordingly.  I usually get some instant cookies that just add butter, an egg, and a little water.  Then you can figure out how much each cookie has by doing some maths based on how much herb used in the butter, how much butter used in the batch, and how many cookies you made.

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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil or butter with a half ounce [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #23578253 - 08/26/16 12:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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This is the decarboxylation step.  It's important if you want your edibles to be dank.




No it's not. If you do the extraction properly you're decarbing while you extract as the temps are pretty much the same

i only use edibles & I never decarb & they're always great


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil or butter with a half ounce [Re: Shroomopotamus] * 1
    #23578258 - 08/26/16 12:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

weed ~> coconut oil (just enough to completely cover weed) ~> pot ~> stove for 6 hours on low about 220 ~> strain


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil or butter with a half ounce [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #23578785 - 08/26/16 07:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you all do much for your contributions and help!

Unfortunately I couldn't afford the extra bud this Paycheck after all, so I'll study all the info you have provided
And make my first batch in two weeks !

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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil or butter with a half ounce [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23579551 - 08/26/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sugarleaf/ trim work fine too if you can find some cheaper.


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil or butter with a half ounce [Re: musiclover420]
    #23580138 - 08/26/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sugarleaf, what a cool name! :grin:

Im guessing sugarleaf is the same as trimmings?


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil or butter with a half ounce [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23580355 - 08/26/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It is really dank trimmings essentially, from quality sugary plants and well sifted through so it has no stems or other plant matter besides this:



It generally makes the best extracts aside from using bud and also has the best return which can be in the 15-25% area depending on the quality/ genetics.


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil or butter with a half ounce [Re: musiclover420]
    #23580497 - 08/26/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Another tip is, after you make your butter with whatever method you choose, melt the butter in a little pot of water, mix it around for a minute, stick back in the fridge and when it cools the water will be separated from the butter and will not taste as nasty.  Plus it'll be a lighter green.


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: falsereality]
    #23580726 - 08/26/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Finely grind flower and mix into half a cup (or more) of melted coconut oil. Put in an oven safe dish and bake at 250F for 30 mins to decarb. Don't strain the oil and bake into whatever you want.

That's how a recreational edible manufacturer in Colorado taught me how to do it :shrug:. I've never had a weak batch from this method.




that looks like stripped down version of the best i've ever tried.

i've made extracts many different ways in the last few decades but never for a business like some more experienced peeps.  having said that the method at the link below takes the proverbial cake.  by far and away the best and it's not even close IME.

the best method for super potent oil using decarb methods, coconut oil, and lecithin


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Re: Making cannabis infused coconut oil with a half ounce [Re: thelanzii]
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