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The Ecstatic
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What a strange way to admit you were wrong
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I advocate for capitalism and limited government. You advocate for communism and zero government. The difference between our ideas is that mine is the best and yours doesn't even exist.
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The Ecstatic
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lol when did i advocate any of that?
Youre so full of shit.
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Apostle said: All the current communist regimens are doing fine right now and their citizens have great lives.
I would argue zero communist regimes exist.
There is still Laos Im pretty sure they are a communist dictatorship
North Korea has a few nice buildings and alot of starving people.
North Korea is a theocracy.
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The Ecstatic said: What a strange way to admit you were wrong
All you did was regurgitate the definition of a theoretical society that doesn't exist outside of small tribal populations. You have a theory, that's it. And you're not the first person to fall for this ideal. It cannot be done in actual practice. It simply doesn't exist. What can be put into practice, however, is state-run communism, which always fails.
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Again, who said I promote this idea?
Just because I understand what words mean doesnt necessitate a personal philosophy.
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The scariest thing about this election for me is the cult of personally Trump has built up. I really believe he could shoot someone in the street and his supporters world still support. He spouts absolute nonsense, admit he is ignorant on the issues And making things up as he goes, but he "tells it as it is"
His debate performance was laughable, yet his supporters stand by him. It's nuts.
State run communism is an oxymoron. There have only been socialist states
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For what its worth, Marx was pretty spot on about the flaws of capitalism, and stressed that a long run of socialism was a precursor to the societal changes necessary to construct a communist society.
Of course we cant implement communism right now. Change takes time. Our freedom loving founding fathers owned people and only allowed white land owning males to vote. Its a slow crawl towards progress. Im not saying communism is progress, but how many people even 100 years ago thought a racially equal US society was a pipe dream theory? Dont be so shortsighted.
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The Ecstatic said: For what its worth, Marx was pretty spot on about the flaws of capitalism, and stressed that a long run of socialism was a precursor to the societal changes necessary to construct a communist society.
Of course we cant implement communism right now. Change takes time. Our freedom loving founding fathers owned people and only allowed white land owning males to vote. Its a slow crawl towards progress. Im not saying communism is progress, but how many people even 100 years ago thought a racially equal US society was a pipe dream theory? Dont be so shortsighted.
No, he was a no nothing anti Semite moron who stayed in acedemic safty and didnt understand economics
you are compairing racial equality(which we dont have) to the theoretical and non existant process of a society turning communist?
Thats completely retarded
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No, I fully comprehend what you're advocating. And I'm telling you it's a theory that can't be put into practice, therefore it doesn't actually exist. So what good is that, then? What's the point of replacing a capitalist society with...nothing? You want a communist society, that by definition, supposedly has no state. So if the state doesn't govern the communist society, then who governs it? The people? That sounds awesome but I'm telling you that dog don't hunt. But I'm glad you're brilliant enough to resonate with the best idea that's ever existed solely in the human imagination and not in the actual real world.
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you are compairing racial equality(which we dont have) to the theoretical and non existant process of a society turning communist?
you (and Zen), don't even know what "you" and "you are" means.
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that dog don't hunt.
dog will hunt.
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you are compairing racial equality(which we dont have) to the theoretical and non existant process of a society turning communist?
you (and Zen), don't even know what "you" and "you are" means.
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The Ecstatic said: For what its worth, Marx was pretty spot on about the flaws of capitalism, and stressed that a long run of socialism was a precursor to the societal changes necessary to construct a communist society.
Of course we cant implement communism right now. Change takes time. Our freedom loving founding fathers owned people and only allowed white land owning males to vote. Its a slow crawl towards progress. Im not saying communism is progress, but how many people even 100 years ago thought a racially equal US society was a pipe dream theory? Dont be so shortsighted.
No, he was a no nothing anti Semite moron who stayed in acedemic safty and didnt understand economics
you are compairing racial equality(which we dont have) to the theoretical and non existant process of a society turning communist?
Thats completely retarded
How many red herrings do you need?
Marx is a celebrated economist, whether you want to admit it or not.
And if you cant see the parallels between two previously unfeasible societal concepts then maybe political discussion isnt for you.
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PeyoteZen said: No, I fully comprehend what you're advocating. And I'm telling you it's a theory that can't be put into practice, therefore it doesn't actually exist. So what good is that, then? What's the point of replacing a capitalist society with...nothing? You want a communist society, that by definition, supposedly has no state. So if the state doesn't govern the communist society, then who governs it? The people? That sounds awesome but I'm telling you that dog don't hunt. But I'm glad you're brilliant enough to resonate with the best idea that's ever existed solely in the human imagination and not in the actual real world.
What exactly am I advocating? Since youre fully aware, Im sure you wouldnt mind explaining it to me and everyone else reading.
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Aristotle said its the mark of an educated mind to entertain an idea without accepting it.
By that measure, considering you cant consider an idea without attaching it to someone and attacking them for it, you arent very educated at all.
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He is mostly celebrated as the person who killed millions in asia with his ideas that were idealistic stupidity
people think because poverty exists in capitalistic societies that capitalism is failing. They dont recognise that resources and labor are limited, that government(because the government is 'the people') is terribe at alloctating these tings, and that the world is just not an ideal place
Ive entertained communism, it doesnt make it less of a retarded idea.
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Marx killed millions of people in Asia?
Keep digging that hole...
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Also, if its obvious that resources are limited, maybe an economic model whose foundation is expontential growth isnt such a perfect idea.
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PeyoteZen said: No, I fully comprehend what you're advocating. And I'm telling you it's a theory that can't be put into practice, therefore it doesn't actually exist. So what good is that, then? What's the point of replacing a capitalist society with...nothing? You want a communist society, that by definition, supposedly has no state. So if the state doesn't govern the communist society, then who governs it? The people? That sounds awesome but I'm telling you that dog don't hunt. But I'm glad you're brilliant enough to resonate with the best idea that's ever existed solely in the human imagination and not in the actual real world.
What exactly am I advocating? Since youre fully aware, Im sure you wouldnt mind explaining it to me and everyone else reading.
You're advocating for a form of society that doesn't exist except outside of civilization in small tribal populations (ie: The good kind of communism). I already explained this to you, you're just too thick to let it sink in.
Are you one these guys?
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