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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Hobozen] * 1
    #23607683 - 09/03/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Hobozen said:


Oh how I want to leave this God forsaken libtorn place and head back over to voat.co... but I must... I must not abandon the fight!




Lol, you're a doddering old granny? Splains a lot.

Why don't you accept defeat and go back to Stormfront.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23607720 - 09/03/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
no, because mostly they're prisoners. i think that's more it, than "it's cause they're men".






you're wrong again... thanks for doing your liberal duty of perpetuating the the real rape culture and trivializing the realities of male rape victims


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23607721 - 09/03/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:it's true. men are also the victims of rape and sexual harassment more often that women but no one fucking cares


why?

because they're men



:smbfacepalm: do you even believe the shit you write? I wholeheartedly agree that male sexual harassment
and rape are a big problem and they face huge problemsEDIT: obstacles to reporting and justice, but the rate at which either occurs is much lesser than
the rate of female harassment and rape.

Also, what apostle said.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23607772 - 09/03/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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akira_akuma said:
no, because mostly they're prisoners. i think that's more it, than "it's cause they're men".






you're wrong again... thanks for doing your liberal duty of perpetuating the the real rape culture and trivializing the realities of male rape victims



it's not my duty to do anything. wtf are you talking about? how am i perpetuating rape culture?

i wish this was humorous but it's just...banter. pointless banter.

males are raped by women, yes, at a higher degree than most people might consider, yes, but are they raped more? no. wrong. please, stfu and stop spreading retarded bullshit around. stick to farming.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23607776 - 09/03/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

#TheRealRapeCulture :curbyourenthusiasm:


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Apostle]
    #23607785 - 09/03/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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It's both and it's pretty fucking cruel that rape has just been accepted as a part of the reality of American prisons.
All rape is bad though and i don't think it matters who gets raped more, we just need to do our best to prevent it in all forms.



yes. precisely. in prison, when it occurs, because of the weird dominant homosexual subculture there, there is literally people whom, i'm sure, make it their business who to rape and why (control, mostly, but also, um...yeah, gross stuff :puke:) -- this all makes it very hard to control, because in prison the culture is all around focused on control, and especially taking control from authorities and putting into the hands of prisoners. the strong feed on the weak, and ... well, it's a tough problem to really address, without putting a fine line on prisoner erm cooperation...ie, more or less no gen pop interaction, just in and out of cells.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Crumist]
    #23607788 - 09/03/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:it's true. men are also the victims of rape and sexual harassment more often that women but no one fucking cares


why?

because they're men



:smbfacepalm: do you even believe the shit you write? I wholeheartedly agree that male sexual harassment
and rape are a big problem and they face huge problemsEDIT: obstacles to reporting and justice, but the rate at which either occurs is much lesser than
the rate of female harassment and rape.

Also, what apostle said.





so you're saying that you're a liberal that likes to marginalize rape victims and
you also perpetuate the real rape culture. it's typical of liberals so dont feel
ashamed for being wrong. you've been misinformed by your liberal masters. they
tell you men are the problem, that men rape and women are the victims. they lie

break free of your chains and learn the truth

http://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/04/male_rape_in_america_a_new_study_reveals_that_men_are_sexually_assaulted.html
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/09/22/rape-cdc-numbers-misleading-definition-date-forced-sexual-assault-column/16007089/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elwood-d-watson/male-sexaul-assaultthe-si_b_4734789.html



like I said... it's because they're men


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23607794 - 09/03/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

dude, we know, the numbers are higher than people might think, and thus it's like surprising how much people assume things, but...no one is assuming this ludicrous shit that women are raped more than men, except you.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23607798 - 09/03/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
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akira_akuma said:
no, because mostly they're prisoners. i think that's more it, than "it's cause they're men".






you're wrong again... thanks for doing your liberal duty of perpetuating the the real rape culture and trivializing the realities of male rape victims



it's not my duty to do anything. wtf are you talking about? how am i perpetuating rape culture?

i wish this was humorous but it's just...banter. pointless banter.

males are raped by women, yes, at a higher degree than most people might consider, yes, but are they raped more? no. wrong. please, stfu and stop spreading retarded bullshit around. stick to farming.





you really do love to be wrong dont you. that's what makes you a liberal, if you could
be wrong 100% of the time you could be a progressive like koods, sophie and crystal


http://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/04/male_rape_in_america_a_new_study_reveals_that_men_are_sexually_assaulted.html
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/09/22/rape-cdc-numbers-misleading-definition-date-forced-sexual-assault-column/16007089/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elwood-d-watson/male-sexaul-assaultthe-si_b_4734789.html


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23607799 - 09/03/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

the private camp i was at seemed to have a good system to deal with rape. I never saw any.
Can't say the same for the state run facilities.
It's allowed because the fucking C.O.'s are fucking sadistic criminals themselves and they live that prison life and revel in it.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23607806 - 09/03/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
dude, we know, the numbers are higher than people might think, and thus it's like surprising how much people assume things, but...no one is assuming this ludicrous shit that women are raped more than men, except you.






and the CDC, they're the ones that made the claim I've been asserting.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23607836 - 09/03/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

the CDC, yeah, LOL, they always have 100% ratiocination on these matters.  Zika, anyone?

but besides that fluff...they redesigned the conditions within their testing parameters. they started including like "forced penetration from intoxication" for example, and other such things...at this point, yeah, people having sex, intoxicated...this is why feminists make such a big stink (because, in this case, literally, because they can) about intoxication and sex...because people are extra stupid with either/or sex or intoxication, and even more so, with both involved.

so the thing is, are women like breaking into people's homes, or stun-gunning victims in order to rape them violently? or is there more instances of molestation and over-stepping ones bounds in an intimate (or semi-intimate, lol) setting?

answer honestly Pris. don't rely on an appeal to authority. just let's cut to the chase.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23607878 - 09/03/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you, your links were actually pretty enlightening and I was surprised to see these numbers.
https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence
"1 out of 10 rape victims are men"

You claimed men make the majority of rape victims and your own links don't back you up.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Crumist]
    #23607992 - 09/03/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

and you're clearly you're overlooking the facts because I also spoke of sexual
assault and given that by most legal definitions men cannot be raped, 50% of men
have been the victims of sexual assault which also could have been classed as rape

so yeah, continue to disregard the truth, it's what liberals do, ignore facts and lie

http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2014/03/coerced-sex.aspx


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23608007 - 09/03/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

wtf, are you trolling? it's what liberals do? what? ignore facts and lie?

just because your not being clear, doesn't mean anyone is lying. sexual assault considered rape? ok. are the stats still 50/50? ok, then.
you didn't answer me before, so maybe i'll phrase this a different way....

do women stun-gun and kidnap victims for sex slaves?

what's that considered?


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23608060 - 09/03/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You said rape AND sexual assault.
And your claim that men are abused more than women and are #therealrapeculture remains
unsupported.

Apostle was right though. Rape sucks and bickering over who gets raped more is largely fruitless.
This is my last post on the topic.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Crumist]
    #23608106 - 09/03/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The highest tax rate is 39.6% for a single income over $420,000.
If you agree with having a progressive tax system (which I understand, not everyone does)
then I don't see why we don't have more brackets. There are people out there with several
million in taxed income, why do they pay the same 39.6% as someone pulling in $480,000?

For that matter, why have brackets at all? Wouldn't a sliding scale formula work better?
But then again, I guess the US education system has done a good job of making sure a good
number of us are afraid of any math.

Disclaimer on how marginal tax rates work:
You pay 10% on the first $10,000 income
then 15% up to $40,000
etc.




A lot people with large income don't even pay those higher tax rates, because it is derived from capital gains and not wages. If you make a million working your ass off,  that money is taxed at 35%. If you make a million sitting around letting your wealth make money for you, it's taxed at 15%. The premise being that a lower tax rate encourages investment. This seems absurd. Nobody is going to forgo letting their money work for them simply because you don't get to keep it all.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23608162 - 09/03/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
and you're clearly you're overlooking the facts because I also spoke of sexual
assault and given that by most legal definitions men cannot be raped, 50% of men
have been the victims of sexual assault which also could have been classed as rape

so yeah, continue to disregard the truth, it's what liberals do, ignore facts and lie

http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2014/03/coerced-sex.aspx



Nice try. It's not reasonable to consider verbal coercion or unwanted sexual seduction rape. You haven't raped someone if you talk them into fucking you, or get them horny enough to go for it. If we are going to insist that no means no, then we should also accept that yes means yes.

So, you could make the argument that between 18 and 25% of men in this study were raped. If you look at the methodology of this study, however, these numbers should be treated with skepticism. The sample size is rather small and doesn't appear to be random - The respondents were those who choose to fill out the survey. 

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[284 U.S. high school and college students who responded to a survey about unwanted sexual encounters, 18 percent reported sexual coercion by physical force; 31 percent said they were verbally coerced; 26 percent described unwanted seduction by sexual behaviors; and 7 percent said they were compelled after being given alcohol or drugs, according to the study/quote]


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23609541 - 09/03/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Sophistic Radiance said:
Quote:

Hobozen said:


Oh how I want to leave this God forsaken libtorn place and head back over to voat.co... but I must... I must not abandon the fight!




Lol, you're a doddering old granny? Splains a lot.

Why don't you accept defeat and go back to Stormfront.




I have bigger life shit going on atm than these aguments. I will return. And I will destroy you. :thumbinator:


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23609577 - 09/03/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Soapbox Radical:burke:


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