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That, my special little person, is what we call "an opinion," a silly one at that.
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: PatrickKn]
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qman said: http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/01/pf/college/georgetown-university-slave-descendants-admissions/
"Georgetown University will offer the descendants of nearly 300 slaves PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT in its admission process"
Look at what we have here, blatant prejudice and discrimination based on race, but that's OK when the benefit goes to a minority group.
That's a privately run school, and from the article it seems they are giving this offer to actual decedents of those enslaved at their school. There is nothing wrong with any of that. Scholarships have been given for less.
"That's a privately run school"
That doesn't make the policy any less discriminatory.
"There is nothing wrong with any of that."
Unless you're a more qualified applicant that gets denied admission because someone's great great great grandfather was a slave.
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: qman]
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so, it's their fucking school. they can do what they want.
i'm sure there are some white only private schools still left in America, Qman, don't worry.
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: koods]
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specialpeopleclub said: Economics is limited resource distribution governments cant run ecomomies. all programs should be designed, if implimented, so they would be economically viable in the private sector
That, my special little person, is what we call "an opinion," a silly one at that.
so it wood be better to fund a program that would be an economic disaster outside the actual economyb and prop it up bu flooding in funds? That is what yus have to do, because it would hemorage money.
You dont know what an opinion is, its just an argument stopper
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akira_akuma said: so, it's their fucking school. they can do what they want.
i'm sure there are some white only private schools still left in America, Qman, don't worry.
"it's their fucking school"
So you condone a discriminatory admissions policy based on events that took place hundreds of years ago?
"there are some white only private schools still left"
We have laws that don't allow for that policy.
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akira_akuma said: are you still not clear on what happens when a superpower takes land and resources (people) at one point in history, and wants to make amends to minorities in the land, you're still not clear on how that works, eh? or what the term 'minority' entails, in terms of fairness.
When does it end? A hundred years later, a thousand years later?
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: qman]
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well, i can understand why you think it's unfair. and i'm not all up on the laws in that particular place.
but you know what else wasn't fair? slavery. that's why the school is CHOOSING to do what they are doing. because they recognize there is an under-recognized minority trying to get an education.
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So you condone a discriminatory admissions policy based on events that took place hundreds of years ago?
yes, as long as that event is recognized as the problem child of discrimination itself, and isn't self-defeating. they want to make up for those past policies. it's their school. they can do what they want up to point. i'm sure this is perfectly fine.
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We have laws that don't allow for that policy.
oh, well. good.
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When does it end? A hundred years later, a thousand years later?
that's a perfectly rational question, but i don't have an answer for you.
it doesn't end maybe until, i'll guess, a hundred years after the success of the civil rights movement. so it's right around the bend.
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#23605035 - 09/02/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/01/pf/college/georgetown-university-slave-descendants-admissions/
"Georgetown University will offer the descendants of nearly 300 slaves PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT in its admission process"
Look at what we have here, blatant prejudice and discrimination based on race, but that's OK when the benefit goes to a minority group.
You can't even see slaves as individual human beings, can you? They are just black people to you.
The benefit is going to the descendants of the slaves who were sold to help fund the university. Just about every private university offers preferential treatment to members of families that have made financial or academic contributions to the school. The descendants of the owners of those slaves have benefited from their family legacy, while the families of the slaves themselves did not. The university is correcting that injustice, and saying that the slaves themselves made a financial contribution, and their descendants deserve the same inherited legacy as anyone else.
This is how it has always been: "My great great great grandpappy funded the construction of this university's historic library, so I get to go to the front of the line."
Now this also applies ""My great great great grandpappy was sold to fund the construction of this university's historic library, so I get to go to the front of the line."
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#23605058 - 09/02/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: "That's a privately run school"
That doesn't make the policy any less discriminatory.
"There is nothing wrong with any of that."
Unless you're a more qualified applicant that gets denied admission because someone's great great great grandfather was a slave. 
This thinking is the epitome of political correctness. Not them giving the grant, you getting huffy about it because of the political ramifications of it. Who gives a fuck if some private school wants to extend scholarships and grants to a certain group? I don't, that's the free market at work, no? 
If they were extending grants to paraplegics with the same qualifications to get in as these slave descendants, you wouldn't have posted it. How about the various scholarships that athletes get despite having fewer qualifications than their more intelligent counterparts? Why is that also not an issue?
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parties may not represent views... but once those parties take office they have the ability to enforce their "extremists' views" apon you.
Take Bernie Sanders (I'm not hating, i actually like him, but i disagree with some of his views) for example, he was a 'moderate' on guns before the orlando shooting, but afterwards he wanted Magazine regulations, he wanted a ban on semiautomatic weapons... but why? Because extremists in the democratic party convinced the masses(mainly moderates and in betweeners) to support their views. In order to get more supporters for his cause, bernie went with the masses.
Extremists in both parties have the ability to enforce their beliefs by shifting moderates' views.
People vote for the parties with the intent of those extremists to enforce their agendas.
If i was a billionaire who was sick of taxes, i would vote republican. Not democrat, republicans would have my best interests in mind. Lower taxes, more income, who wouldn't like that.
Sure the parties change over time, and they all do. In 200 years from now the extremists' of the democratic party may switch places with the extremists of the republican party. The extremists may change their views on some political stances. But the extremists of each party, are the ones that really have the voice, the ability to swing votes so that certain politicans get re-elected.
Extremists are also the people everyone makes fun of, if you associate yourself with the democratic party but you are a moderate or in-betweener, republicans will think you are one of those "extremist" libtards. They may assert you are anti-guns, when you are pro-guns.
...Damnit... i went on an adderall typing spree. i do this on yooutube alot, Where i type an entire page. I Didn't mean to type all this. Just expressing my opinion. Now i got a headache. Fock my life!
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: koods]
#23605083 - 09/02/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The alt-right has no official ideology, although various sources have said that it is associated with white nationalism,[1][2][6] white supremacism,[3][5][7] antisemitism,[1][2][8] right-wing populism,[6][9] nativism,[10][11] and the neoreactionary movement.[12][13] The alt-right has been said to be a largely online movement with Internet memes widely used to advance or express its beliefs, often on websites such as 4chan
"no official ideology"
"various sources"
"movement with internet memes"
This is what Hillary felt was so important to make a speech on.Though i guess i can't blame her since "their" methods are effective.
This election year is fucking amazing and has changed the way people will campaign.
If you want to get free publicity and have a bunch of basement dwellers do all the leg work for you, just be fucking hilarious and unapologetic and rustle a lot of jimmies.
they will do it
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https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/08/22/leaked-letters-from-smith-college-faculty-stir-tempest-race/RhlPLQ2gctF6Dl3hhlYqQK/story.html
Look at what we have here, super liberal Smith College let a bunch of unqualified black students into their school and now the liberal Professors are bitching to the Administration they don't want to teach them anymore because all they do is complain of racism and suck at school.
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: qman]
#23605103 - 09/02/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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yes, Qman, stupid people exist in all walks of life.
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: PatrickKn]
#23605115 - 09/02/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can legitimately make the argument that these policies are discriminatory, but there is nothing racial about it. Relatives of important alumni and benefactors get special treatment. That's it. The only reason qman can twist this into a race based benefit is that all the slaves were black. I wonder how that happened
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: qman]
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: koods]
#23605141 - 09/02/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: You can legitimately make the argument that these policies are discriminatory, but there is nothing racial about it. Relatives of important alumni and benefactors get special treatment. That's it. The only reason qman can twist this into a race based benefit is that all the slaves were black. I wonder how that happened 
Do you really think going back into the wrongs of history from hundreds of years ago and trying to fix it in 2016 accomplishes anything other than making things worse?
Maybe every group should do the same thing, maybe I'll go back to Poland and find all of the bad things done to my ancestors and then complain about it.
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: qman]
#23605145 - 09/02/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/08/22/leaked-letters-from-smith-college-faculty-stir-tempest-race/RhlPLQ2gctF6Dl3hhlYqQK/story.html
Look at what we have here, super liberal Smith College let a bunch of unqualified black students into their school and now the liberal Professors are bitching to the Administration they don't want to teach them anymore because all they do is complain of racism and suck at school. 
God, next thing you know they won't even let men go to that school.
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: qman]
#23605148 - 09/02/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/08/22/leaked-letters-from-smith-college-faculty-stir-tempest-race/RhlPLQ2gctF6Dl3hhlYqQK/story.html
Look at what we have here, super liberal Smith College let a bunch of unqualified black students into their school and now the liberal Professors are bitching to the Administration they don't want to teach them anymore because all they do is complain of racism and suck at school. 
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