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Offlineergoticmandala
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: The Cheshire Cat]
    #23604704 - 09/02/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

fuck conservatives, fuck bill o riley


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Crumist]
    #23604707 - 09/02/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I didnt say I was the most opressed. it isnt a contest though. I was making a statement about my experiance.


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OfflineThe Cheshire Cat
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23604730 - 09/02/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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ergoticmandala said:
fuck conservatives, fuck bill o riley



Agreed, bill o riley is the cancer of America. As for conservatives... that depends. I respect capitalism, but the conservatives that push for kratom scheduling or more military funding, less planned parenthood funding disgust me.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: The Cheshire Cat] * 1
    #23604741 - 09/02/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The Cheshire Cat said:
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ergoticmandala said:
fuck conservatives, fuck bill o riley



Agreed, bill o riley is the cancer of America. As for conservatives... that depends. I respect capitalism, but the conservatives that push for kratom scheduling or more military funding, less planned parenthood funding disgust me.




Sorry to burst your bubble, but "liberals" like Obama have also pushed and received "more military spending".

Under Bill Clinton more people went to prison for drugs than any other US President, now he says he's "sorry" for that outcome.


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OfflineThe Cheshire Cat
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: qman]
    #23604771 - 09/02/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This is why I don't like talking about politics, both sides point out the flaws of the other while neglecting the flaws of their own side. It's a lesser of two evils.

Also don't assert that i'm a democrat, i'm not a democrat. I'm neither a republican or democrat.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: The Cheshire Cat]
    #23604782 - 09/02/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The Cheshire Cat said:
This is why I don't like talking about politics, both sides point out the flaws of the other while neglecting the flaws of their own side. It's a lesser of two evils.



There are more then two sides and alot of in between, except with economics. Socialized economics doesnt and hasnt ever worked.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23604791 - 09/02/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

just proved his point^


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23604802 - 09/02/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The Cheshire Cat said:
This is why I don't like talking about politics, both sides point out the flaws of the other while neglecting the flaws of their own side. It's a lesser of two evils.

Also don't assert that i'm a democrat, i'm not a democrat. I'm neither a republican or democrat.



He neglected nothing though. He used the word "also". I understand that you are neither, I am neither as well. However it seems you have a bias when what Qman pointed out is a reasonable assertion, and you broke it down to a lesser of two evils argument. We all have bias of course, but the way you responded shows a higher acceptance of evil when done by the lesser.

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There are more then two sides and alot of in between, except with economics.



That's silly, economics is like any other issue. To think that there is only one way to do anything is wishful thinking.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23604814 - 09/02/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Economics is limited resource distribution
governments cant run ecomomies. all programs should be designed, if implimented, so they would be economically viable in the private sector


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OfflineThe Cheshire Cat
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23604817 - 09/02/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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specialpeopleclub said:
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The Cheshire Cat said:
This is why I don't like talking about politics, both sides point out the flaws of the other while neglecting the flaws of their own side. It's a lesser of two evils.



There are more then two sides and alot of in between, except with economics. Socialized economics doesnt and hasnt ever worked.



Your assertion is common knowledge, of course there are more than two parties. You got Libertarians, Green Party supporters, and Congressional Party supporters.

But arguing over which party is the worse, makes everyone look... well... Mad!


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23604827 - 09/02/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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governments cant run ecomomies.



Governments have historically always run them through distribution of currency, taxation, tariffs, rights to sell and trade. There is no economy in the world that has 0 government interference that also isn't a 3rd world shit hole.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: The Cheshire Cat]
    #23604828 - 09/02/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I love how there is actually no such thing as the alt-right and hillary is shitting herself over a imaginary boogey man.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: The Cheshire Cat]
    #23604833 - 09/02/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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PatrickKn said:
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specialpeopleclub said:
governments cant run ecomomies.



Governments have historically always run them through distribution of currency, taxation, tariffs, rights to sell and trade. There is no economy in the world that has 0 government interference that also isn't a 3rd world shit hole.



That isnt 'running an economy'. goovernments skew prices and supply signals.

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The Cheshire Cat said:
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specialpeopleclub said:
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The Cheshire Cat said:
This is why I don't like talking about politics, both sides point out the flaws of the other while neglecting the flaws of their own side. It's a lesser of two evils.



There are more then two sides and alot of in between, except with economics. Socialized economics doesnt and hasnt ever worked.



Your assertion is common knowledge, of course there are more than two parties. You got Libertarians, Green Party supporters, and Congressional Party supporters.

But arguing over which party is the worse, makes everyone look... well... Mad!



Partes donrt represent all views We are talking about differant things


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23604881 - 09/02/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Alot of that is just liberal
rebelling against tradtionally conservitive parents, facism works, identity poletics, V for Vendetta

also alot of straw men. Its a terrible graphic. Noone says streight white men are the most opressed, just that the minorities play the victem card and get away with it. Streight white men allowed them to do so




Actually, pris regularly claims that white people are oppressed in America, even moreso than blacks.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #23604882 - 09/02/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/01/pf/college/georgetown-university-slave-descendants-admissions/

"Georgetown University will offer the descendants of nearly 300 slaves PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT in its admission process"

Look at what we have here, blatant prejudice and discrimination based on race, but that's OK when the benefit goes to a minority group.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: qman]
    #23604919 - 09/02/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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qman said:
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/01/pf/college/georgetown-university-slave-descendants-admissions/

"Georgetown University will offer the descendants of nearly 300 slaves PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT in its admission process"

Look at what we have here, blatant prejudice and discrimination based on race, but that's OK when the benefit goes to a minority group.



That's a privately run school, and from the article it seems they are giving this offer to actual decedents of those enslaved at their school. There is nothing wrong with any of that. Scholarships have been given for less.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: qman]
    #23604921 - 09/02/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

are you still not clear on what happens when a superpower takes land and resources (people) at one point in history, and wants to make amends to minorities in the land, you're still not clear on how that works, eh? or what the term 'minority' entails, in terms of fairness.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23604925 - 09/02/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

ya that sounds like total bullshit.

They are definitely shamed/accused of racism when they show pride in their own race but i don't know if that counts as oppression since they are still allowed to do their demonstrations.

Same with blm or black panther type groups.

I think it's fair to say that in America everyone has equal chance to be whatever they want to be. Any advantages are usually more of a class than a race thing. Except in the case of affirmative action in which case minorities have more of an advantage.
I think it evens out.

I say this from a non-biased point of view too since i'm neither black or white.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: qman]
    #23604926 - 09/02/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

The Cheshire Cat said:
Quote:

ergoticmandala said:
fuck conservatives, fuck bill o riley



Agreed, bill o riley is the cancer of America. As for conservatives... that depends. I respect capitalism, but the conservatives that push for kratom scheduling or more military funding, less planned parenthood funding disgust me.




Sorry to burst your bubble, but "liberals" like Obama have also pushed and received "more military spending".

Under Bill Clinton more people went to prison for drugs than any other US President, now he says he's "sorry" for that outcome.




Reagan/Nixon launched the war on drugs and a "strong" military is a cornerstone of the right.

But at least you put liberals in quotations this time, bc Obama and Clinton are far from it.


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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23604936 - 09/02/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Two wrongs don't make a right.


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