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Eminence



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The Ecstatic said: We all think so.
See, heres the thing: all these white nationalist arguments are as old as our constitution. Theyre transparent. You can only dance around the facts for so long before you accidentally let slip how you really feel.
You think it's racist that I notice the anti-Trump blacks that have nothing to say other than "racism" aren't as intelligent as the blacks who support Trump for their own reasons because they see past these buzzwords? LOL. See? People like you have taken away all the impact of the word "racism" by throwing it around at the most inappropriate situations. If I was really a racist, I wouldn't support ANY black people. I challenge you to do the same thing, look up both the black protestors and the black supporters, and tell me which ones seem like they're more educated. Don't blame me for talking about race when democrats are the ones that insist of making everything racial to begin with.
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Eminence]
#23579901 - 08/26/16 12:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Red herrings, nonsequiturs.....
If you cant bring your ideas to the table without putting words in people's mouths then dont even bother.
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I didn't put any words in your mouth. You, on the other hand, implied I'm a racist because I think black Trump voters are more educated than black Trump protestors.
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Eminence]
#23579953 - 08/26/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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it's not a racist stereotype, though it is a racial stereotype. black people whom are protesting Trump must be dumber than other black people because they are black people protesting against your chosen platform.
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No, it's because the only argument against him is "he's racist" while never being able to quote anything that's actually racist without twisting the words to make it seem that way.
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Eminence]
#23580023 - 08/26/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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face it: you made a racially-charged statement that indicated that you think black people whom protest Trump are dumber than other black people because those other's don't protest Trump, insinuating that you think any black person who protests Trump must by 'that kind' of "dumb black person". i'm not gonna jump down your throat for it. but it's what you insinuated.
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Exactly.
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No..again, it's because with black people that protest against him it's always "he's racist." If I hear more black people protest with some better reasons, then I'll change my mind. I think white people who have nothing to say other than "he's racist" are just as stupid. Maybe even a little more stupid. I never thought so much about race until I realized how obsessed democrats are with it, this just goes to show again that you can criticize white people all you want but you're demonized for criticizing the state of the black community, and not blacks themselves. I probably want what's best for blacks more than you do, that's why I talk about how democrats enable the fucked up culture that plagues them rather than try to just pretend it doesn't exist.
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Eminence]
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So because its a common complaint it isnt valid?
I guess Hillary isnt a liar then.
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Eminence]
#23580126 - 08/26/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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what does that have to do with whom sounds smarter, and whom sounds dumber? it's their opinion that his platform is racist -- i'd disagree, i'd say it's more racially-charged, and divided, even amongst those who don't think he's being "racist". he's basically coming out with policies to segregate people in America due to their race or creed, which is why people are of the opinion. said people might also be making a mistake in calling it "racist", instead of calling it what it is, which is chauvinism.
if someone calling Donald racist makes them dumb, what it has to with their skin color is negligible. they're dumb because they're dumb. not because he fits into a particular category because he's black, and therefore, could somehow not know better. blacks can be stupid and racist too. is that where this is directed? at that notion? well sure, it's true. but it's not because they are black. it's because they are given the same issues to quibble over every election cycle, and every year, year in and year out, from the public at large. you realize how annoying it is being constantly under the scope now, though, don't you? right?
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this just goes to show again that you can criticize white people all you want but you're demonized for criticizing the state of the black community, and not blacks themselves. I probably want what's best for blacks more than you do, that's why I talk about how democrats enable the fucked up culture that plagues them rather than try to just pretend it doesn't exist.
you can't possibly know that.
people can demonize white people, but can't demonize blacks? LOL that's laughable. it's been happening since this countries inception. people demonizing both blacks, and white culture, respectively.
isn't Hilary white?
PS: i talk about the fucked up culture that fucks with both black AND white neighborhoods. so there.
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Usually if someone believes what they say, they have no reason to misquote someone or take what they say out of context.
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: koods]
#23580136 - 08/26/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Black people are at Trump rallies, I think it might've been MSNBC that cut an interview with a black guy short when they realized he was there to support Trump LOL. Then said "well...I think it's probably fair to say that most of them aren't black" or something like that
It's saying something that the mere presence of a black trump supporter is newsworthy.
trump rallies are almost entirely white. Not entirely white, but very close. That's just reality, dude.
So are hillary's
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Eminence]
#23580140 - 08/26/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Usually if someone believes what they say, they have no reason to misquote someone or take what they say out of context.
What are you basing this on?
People who think theyre right arent biased? Thats the very definition of bias lol
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Eminence said: Black people are at Trump rallies, I think it might've been MSNBC that cut an interview with a black guy short when they realized he was there to support Trump LOL. Then said "well...I think it's probably fair to say that most of them aren't black" or something like that
It's saying something that the mere presence of a black trump supporter is newsworthy.
trump rallies are almost entirely white. Not entirely white, but very close. That's just reality, dude.
So are hillary's
Considering Trump's support amongst blacks is in the single digits, I wonder what candidate the other 90+% are supporting if not Hillary.
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I mentioned their race because that's what this topic is centered around, and the media that's pushing that allegation is doing so to appeal to black people or other minorities..or I'm assuming so, since this country is apparently run by white supremacists.
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Eminence]
#23580153 - 08/26/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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it's annoying being under the scope for the sake of your skin color, isn't it?
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Eminence]
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So you admit the alt right is centered around the topic of race.
How forthright of you.
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Eminence said: Usually if someone believes what they say, they have no reason to misquote someone or take what they say out of context.
What are you basing this on?
People who think theyre right arent biased? Thats the very definition of bias lol
Here's an example of a typical argument at a Trump rally.
"How is he racist?"
"He said Mexicans are rapists"
"No, he said they're not sending they're best, and a lot of illegal Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers and I assume some are good people..also Mexican isn't a race"
"Racist! And he's married to an immigrant!"
Here's another
"He said a Mexican judge couldn't do his job because he's Mexican"
"No, he said that because the judge had ties to La Raza, an actual racist group"
"...nope, racist!"
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The Ecstatic said: So you admit the alt right is centered around the topic of race.
How forthright of you.
The current topic, not the thread topic. You just accused me of putting words in your mouth, now look at you lol. I'm sure you know democrats are more about race than anyone else. All about gettin that minority vote.
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Re: fuck the alt-right [Re: Eminence]
#23580215 - 08/26/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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you weren't clear.
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"also Mexican isn't a race"
that is so asinine, in and of itself.
race2 rās/Submit noun noun: race; plural noun: races each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics. "people of all races, colors, and creeds" synonyms: ethnic group, racial type, origin, ethnic origin, color "students of many different races" a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group. "we Scots were a bloodthirsty race then" synonyms: ethnic group, racial type, origin, ethnic origin, color More the fact or condition of belonging to a racial division or group; the qualities or characteristics associated with this. "people of mixed race" synonyms: ethnic group, racial type, origin, ethnic origin, color "students of many different races" a group or set of people or things with a common feature or features. "some male firefighters still regarded women as a race apart" BIOLOGY a population within a species that is distinct in some way, especially a subspecies. "people have killed so many tigers that two races are probably extinct"
the fact is: you don't like how people are using the word. the word is used correctly, according to the modern definition, however.
denoting something as "race" is also short form for "color, creed, kind" ect...at this point in time, they are all synonymous.
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