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My Thoughts on Salvia
    #23574471 - 08/24/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Salvia is like entering a stampede.
Salvia is like getting into a bad divorce with reality.
Salvia is like going to a white supremacist parade while being both black and gay.
Salvia is like getting an F on a test and not caring.
Salvia is "not for human consumption".\
Salvia is like getting a blowjob with lots of teeth.
Salvia is still a blowjob.
Salvia is beautiful, Salvia is ugly.
Salvia leaf leaves saliva on me.
Salvia is mean.
Salvia is the only drug that posses the spirit of Chuck Norris and upon ingesting it you become the bad guy leaving you to receive the most awesome ass kicking ever.

Today I smoked salvia again and i think it is hands down the most interesting substance in nature. Anyone else as fascinated as I am?


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23574577 - 08/24/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think its very interesting, but unlike most descriptions of salvia effects which I immediately relate with, I find it hard to relate with what youre saying about it other than how interesting it is.

In a way I'd say it presents the greatest enigma of all the psychoactives ive tried, and I always find the plants a bit more interesting than even the best chemicals.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23574613 - 08/24/16 11:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It seems like every time I do it i'm automatically thrown into this parade. Like theres marching as my body gets ruthlessly destroyed. It's rough but sweet at the same time.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23574616 - 08/24/16 11:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Its definitely one of the strangest drugs out there in nature. DMT is definitely in this weird, awe-inspiring category.

I find saliva creepy and im not sure how i feel about it.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23574651 - 08/25/16 12:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

DMT hyperspace seems like it exists at the center of consciousness.As alien and weird as it is something about it also seems completely normal to me. Like I can somehow rationalize its existence. Salvia land is unbelievable. I can't fathom it what so ever. It seems so far out, there's like an on going system there. It's like a reality factory. It too weird. It makes me very curious, more than anything else I've done.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23574674 - 08/25/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Salvia is one fucked up experience.. Not worth it in gain to any sort of insight


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23574900 - 08/25/16 02:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It truly is the most interesting naturally occurring substance

It opens so many questions about our existences and the nature of reality that we may never truly understand


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23574938 - 08/25/16 02:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

salvia is cold

I also find it interesting but never pleasant. I still smoke it anyways


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23575112 - 08/25/16 06:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Reality factory.. that explains a LOT about salvia


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Bomb Diggity]
    #23575349 - 08/25/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That feeling where you're crushed in to a 2-dimensional version of yourself, and time shows itself as the pages of a book flipping passed every millisecond. If lucky, you break through and are rewarded with visuals of entities form the other world. If not, then you're just crushed into oblivion, being sucked backwards into the couch while the room dissolves and nothing makes sense.

Idk what to make of it. My best and worst trips have been on Salvia.

But you see, I kind of like predictability, consistency and continuity. Call me boring, but other substances than Salvia can give me just this.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23575356 - 08/25/16 08:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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DMT hyperspace seems like it exists at the center of consciousness.As alien and weird as it is something about it also seems completely normal to me. Like I can somehow rationalize its existence. Salvia land is unbelievable. I can't fathom it what so ever. It seems so far out, there's like an on going system there. It's like a reality factory. It too weird. It makes me very curious, more than anything else I've done.



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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Kinko]
    #23575429 - 08/25/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Reality factory.... That's about as good of a description as it gets.

After smoking salvia for awhile you'll realize the reality you enter into "salvia land" is merely our reality that has been shrouded.
Once you smoke this plant the shroud you'll see reality for what it really is.

I've had entities and visions appear right before me, manifested out of no where... But it's not nowhere because it's always everywhere.

Crazzzy shit for sure.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: impaired420]
    #23575449 - 08/25/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

My experience with salvia has taught me that the dimension you go to under its influence is a neighboring dimension to ours.

When I break through on salvia I leave my body and enter an entirely different reality, but when I do a smaller dose I see this reality and salvia reality overlap each other.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Kinko]
    #23577821 - 08/25/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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thelastoneleft said:
Salvia is one fucked up experience.. Not worth it in gain to any sort of insight



I beg to differ..

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It truly is the most interesting naturally occurring substance

It opens so many questions about our existences and the nature of reality that we may never truly understand



Couldn't agree more. It's very revealing.

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Can you describe your last salvia trip



I can try. I smoked it out a pipe in my bathroom. Due to the intensity and scariness of the trip I put on Ayahuasca Iquaros. They are songs that protect people from negative energies. I played that and inhaled the leaf. After one hit I was merging with the walls. I take another and the tiles in the bathroom become dark fractal patterns that are flowing away from me. As if the sinister looking patterns are moving away from my computer playing these songs. I take my last hit and I become my bathroom wall as im folding and moving through an empty space. The fractal patterns are flowing and form a woman spirit who smiles at the songs flowing around the atmosphere then I was back. It was the most peaceful one I've had.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23578579 - 08/26/16 04:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Salvia is accidentally getting your coat trapped in a train door and being dragged away kicking and screaming.
Salvia is not wanting to go to school as a child so you pretend to be ill but your mum makes you go anyway.
Salvia is the personality behind inanimate objects.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Psilocypher]
    #23578580 - 08/26/16 04:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I love this thread. Great descriptions!


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Psilocypher]
    #23582175 - 08/26/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You sir have nailed it on the head.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23582416 - 08/27/16 03:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

salvia is a 3-d kaleidoscopic physical and mental gong show opportunity.
trying to describe it I realize that ordinary mind is hard to describe, and this is tremendously more layered and complex than ordinary for a short period of time.
Always grateful to return from salvia-space in a still largely charmed state of mind.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23582431 - 08/27/16 03:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Salvia is scary as fuck.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23582850 - 08/27/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I love this thread. Great descriptions!



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You sir have nailed it on the head.




Thanks. Reality factory is a good one!
I'm working on a Salvia painting at the moment from my first trip. Well I've sketched it out and it's in the queue to be painted.
It was by far the strangest and most unexpected experience of my life so far and I'll never forget that day.
Is it still legal where you live? I used to be able to buy it from a local headshop, but now legal highs are illegal so I can't get hold of any at the moment.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23584337 - 08/27/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I smoke Salvia in my dreams


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Jack Johnson] * 1
    #23584991 - 08/27/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I found it so interesting I grew a room of it. Check out the flowers.



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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Morbid] * 1
    #23587203 - 08/28/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

flowers are pretty rare, you must have been making the plants very happy


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23588243 - 08/28/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Arghhh you guys make Salvia sound so interesting.

I really want to try it. The fact that it works through the Kappa-Opioid receptors makes it sound like such a unique experience that I'd be interested in.

That's it. I'm getting some within the next couple months.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23590420 - 08/29/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Start low, at 5x preferably. Don't be one of those guys who thinks he can handle drugs and can therefore dive in at 40x. Salvia is not like other drugs. Oh no it isn't :lol:

5x has always treated me kindly. Anything above that can rip me to bits.

Also, silent darkness is your friend. Don't get up, don't walk around, have a trip sitter stop you if necessary.

And remember to take huge deep tokes and count to 20-30 before exhaling. Then repeat quickly. You have time for 3 of those tokes. Lift off happens at exactly 90 seconds after the first toke starts. After liftoff stop toking. Have your tripsitter handle your pipe and lighter.

Dry bongs worked best for me.

Good luck :thumbup:, and plz report back.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Hanz]
    #23590425 - 08/29/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the advice man.

I'll definitely post my first experience. :strokebeard:


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23590592 - 08/29/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Wish I could get ahold of some of this. Not easy in Australia


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Hanz] * 1
    #23590766 - 08/29/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Salvia is like getting into a bad divorce with reality.







:lol: ....I like that, good way to put it .





It's been something like 9 years or so since the last time I smoked salvia, and it was also the first full on "breakthrough" I had with the stuff. After that I didn't have much interest in working with the stuff ever again :lol: .

But in recent times...after more life experience, lots more psychedelic experiences since then, and being able to observe & navigate such experiences a bit better....I definitely have curiosity and interest in dabbling with salvia again, I more so want to work with it taken sublingually/orally, but I'm down to give it a go by smoking it once or twice again just to see what she do :smirk:  .

It was never fun, it was never enjoyable or pleasurable (actually the contrary, usually it was a very dysphoric, uncomfortable, and sometimes frightening experience)...but quite interesting and peculiar stuff for sure.







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That feeling where you're crushed in to a 2-dimensional version of yourself, and time shows itself as the pages of a book flipping passed every millisecond. If lucky, you break through and are rewarded with visuals of entities form the other world. If not, then you're just crushed into oblivion, being sucked backwards into the couch while the room dissolves and nothing makes sense.







Sounds about right :yesnod: :lol:


There's this dude that does art based off the experiences/demeanor of salvia...Your little description totally reminds me of some of his work, as what you described seems to be along the lines of some common themes folks experience from salvia.

First time I saw this dudes work I instantly knew it was depicting salvia even though the place I saw it had no reference or mention of salvia, and it's done pretty accurately...This fella captures the whole ordeal in an image so damn well IMO, quite a feat considering how bizarre, atypical  and how difficult the experience is to convey.















Being smeared into 2 dimensions, weird slicing/cutting/pressing of the body into sections, being rolled up and/or stretched, being pushed through machines & strung through clock/time keeping mechanisms. Facing something/someone at the end of a hallway, going through doors...Zippers, Reality/oneself being completely unzipped, or zipped up into some other reality.

So fucking strange.




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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: openmind]
    #23590885 - 08/29/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That art is sick^^

My only experience with salvia was fucking wild: ripped a a whole bowl of 15x and my view of reality rippled, like someone dropped a pebble into a lake, found myself on the ground and decided to rip another bowl...all I remember from it was these three planet like rock formations with different types of vegetation all orbiting around each other. Came back to feeling like I had downs syndrome for the next 15 minutes.
That was around 8 years ago though, definitely reminiscent of smoked dmt in terms of how powerful it was, but I can still remember the strangeness being of a complete different feel than that of tryptamine psychedelics, or anything else for that matter..


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: openmind]
    #23591320 - 08/29/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think there is a key explanation missing here in these descriptions.  The salvia experience brings you to the reality factory as others have described.  Now how would YOU like it if you were a master craftsman, working on an extremely delicate and intricate project, and some random person comes barging in on your work.  Well of course you would be upset, would probably yell at the person to get out so you can focus, etc.  (Similar to interrupting your father when he's working in his workshop when you were a little kid).  The discomfort you feel in the reality factory is caused by the craftsmen trying to keep you from messing them up.  They want you to appreciate the finished product we have in this dimension, they don't want you to see it as it's made.  But of course we are too curious to listen and go explore anyway.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23591381 - 08/29/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Salvia is the ultimate teacher of existence. It has so much unknown knowledge to give, but it won't just give it to anyone. That's why it's so chaotic and uncomfortable, to scare away anyone who mistreats it. I'd say out of all the different entheogens who are said to have a spirit teacher connected to them, Lady Salvia is the one that demands the most respect and is the cruelest to ones who don't give it in the way that she desires. Which is why Salvia has such a horrible reputation, there are so many people who go about smoking it treating it like a party drug, doing it in a horrible set/setting, and trying to seem hardcore to their friends. This is all just my opinion though.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: UniverseOfTheMind8]
    #23592011 - 08/29/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That art is so fucking accurate for me. Looking at it gives me flashbacks.. it brings back that lingering taste like extra dimensional spirit essence, ectoplasm or something of the likes.. so freakin eerie.. the chopping up and everything.. just wow


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Bomb Diggity]
    #23592129 - 08/30/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Who are all the cartoon characters in the back???


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Bomb Diggity]
    #23592138 - 08/30/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Is that really what Salvia visions are like?

Shit. Looks completely wonky. :eek:

In a good way.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23592483 - 08/30/16 06:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Today I smoked salvia again and i think it is hands down the most interesting substance in nature. Anyone else as fascinated as I am?




Welcome to the club brother! I'm obsessed with Salvia!


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23592501 - 08/30/16 06:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Is that really what Salvia visions are like?

Shit. Looks completely wonky. :eek:

In a good way.




I usually perceive these vision with a sixth sense. I do see them too, but more feel them than see. Sixth sense is the best way to put it.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #23594231 - 08/30/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I was surrounded.  I was sitting on the couch and I was surrounded by eyes seeing back towards me.  the were high towards the ceiling, about the size of a human head and in a circle


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: openmind]
    #23594461 - 08/30/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That feeling where you're crushed in to a 2-dimensional version of yourself, and time shows itself as the pages of a book flipping passed every millisecond. If lucky, you break through and are rewarded with visuals of entities form the other world. If not, then you're just crushed into oblivion, being sucked backwards into the couch while the room dissolves and nothing makes sense.







Sounds about right :yesnod: :lol:


There's this dude that does art based off the experiences/demeanor of salvia...Your little description totally reminds me of some of his work, as what you described seems to be along the lines of some common themes folks experience from salvia.

First time I saw this dudes work I instantly knew it was depicting salvia even though the place I saw it had no reference or mention of salvia, and it's done pretty accurately...This fella captures the whole ordeal in an image so damn well IMO, quite a feat considering how bizarre, atypical  and how difficult the experience is to convey.















Being smeared into 2 dimensions, weird slicing/cutting/pressing of the body into sections, being rolled up and/or stretched, being pushed through machines & strung through clock/time keeping mechanisms. Facing something/someone at the end of a hallway, going through doors...Zippers, Reality/oneself being completely unzipped, or zipped up into some other reality.

So fucking strange.




-OM


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The art is amazing. I can't relate to the colors, but the shapes are very well done.

Notice that in each there is some reference to being pressed in to 2 dimensions, and one even has an actual book with flipping pages. Just like I said it was for me.

I think it's amazing, whatever you believe about transcendental truths and the likes, we can have such similar experiences that descriptions of them are recognizable. Think about it, this seldom happens with normal dreams, or feverish delirium.

But somehow a little plant called Salvia can do it in this special way.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23594563 - 08/30/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That art is so fucking accurate for me. Looking at it gives me flashbacks.. it brings back that lingering taste like extra dimensional spirit essence, ectoplasm or something of the likes.. so freakin eerie.. the chopping up and everything.. just wow






Yup...


Same thing happened to me when I saw first saw it, particularly this one>>>











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Is that really what Salvia visions are like?

Shit. Looks completely wonky. :eek:

In a good way.






It is indeed wonky, and it's not in a good way in my experience :lol:  . The stuff isn't enjoyable in anyway for me, but certainly interesting stuff.


From the handful of times I tried salvia, it was actually never much of a visual or "vision" inducing experience for me at all....at least nothing like the classic serotonergic psychedelics .


Really hard to explain what it's like, I perceive what's happening in a different way then visually seeing it....but that art captures some essence of the experience for sure. Feeling like one is being flattened out or stretched in 2 dimensions, feeling like one is being "pressed" and flattened out and rung through machines, feeling like one is rolling or being rolled up like a rug, sensations like being unzipped & torn apart or zipped up into something else...being ripped, sliced, & chopped apart (not painful, but very pronounced and uncomfortable sensations ). Feeling like one is merging with/becoming random objects that are in the room with them or close by (chairs, walls, TV sets, door handles, the neighbors living room floor, etc...)





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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: openmind]
    #23594605 - 08/30/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It has also been, at least a few times, incredibly liberating for me. The door to the other world is a magnificent piece of data to possess. And knowing the door is inside of you, that has a permanent effect. I even glimpsed heaven once, where the divine child like entities told me I'd always be welcome.

It was only later that the other trips were much less comfortable....


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: openmind]
    #23594631 - 08/30/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That thing is a monster.  You shouldn't treat a bong smoker that way. 

Cool no really cool artistry either way.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Lucy9]
    #23595032 - 08/30/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I just thought of this. DMT is the highest you can get. Salvia is the deepest you can get.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23595151 - 08/30/16 07:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That is really helpful.  I haven't had dmt. My buddy said he felt like was falling and other stuff.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Lucy9]
    #23596604 - 08/31/16 07:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I haven't had DMT but have had shrooms and salvia etc.; I think the colored drawings/paintings here are more DMT than salvia in color but very salvia otherwise:
lots of multiples of entities or near conscious bits of world full of astonished attitude.
lots of progressions (like the books or eyes or other sequences like muybridge's movies) linked and overlapped
lots of natural forms or architectures emerging from others.
flatness and impossible layeredness that moves naturally.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23597012 - 08/31/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I would agree.  I have not had dmt straight up.  Just aco-4-dmt (acid/psychopsilocybin research)


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Lucy9]
    #23612674 - 09/04/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

One time I saw bright civ similar to the amazing artwork shown in this thread 'those coloured turning meshing wheels', but in my particular experience all the extra content and meaning as depicted in the pictures was absent, it was just the coloured wheels I saw, it was brief seeing all the beautiful colours too, because Salvia sent me unconscious as it almost always does.

All the descriptions people have of being stretched along a line in a single dimension, or of being trapped in a wall by becoming part of it, or of everything being sliced and chopped up into sections is similar to the experience I get from salvia, but with me its the feeling that 'time stops flowing', what happens is that I become 'NOW' I'm nothing but now, with no concept of past or future, I have no frame of reference at all, no memory to access, its just me trapped in a meaningless constant present and not even knowing what "me" is, eventually the flow of time will start to return, but its in chopped up slices, its a horrid feeling and one I'm very familiar with.

In an attempt to relieve cronic pain I tried experimenting with salvia, dosing on it many times each day over a three week period, and I have to say that the experiment worked.  I was always reluctant to dose up though, and especially when alown because of tendency to blacking out, so with the extra safety if my wife was present, I would take the opportunity and have really big hits, but unfortunately this had to stop, reason was that as I would regain consciousness I would habitually demand explanations from wife as to what the hell was going on and why I was just sitting on a chair next to her, she would try to explain things but I was unable to relate and would badger her again over matters, while having zero recall that I had just been given an explanation, this all resulted in an angry wife refusing to help by being present when I dosed.

But Sally's pain relief really does work, physical side effects of it for me are pins and needles, like I'm sitting on hedgehogs, the pain relief is instant and last 30 min's.


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