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OfflineJack Johnson
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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23584337 - 08/27/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I smoke Salvia in my dreams


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Jack Johnson] * 1
    #23584991 - 08/27/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I found it so interesting I grew a room of it. Check out the flowers.



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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Morbid] * 1
    #23587203 - 08/28/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

flowers are pretty rare, you must have been making the plants very happy


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23588243 - 08/28/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Arghhh you guys make Salvia sound so interesting.

I really want to try it. The fact that it works through the Kappa-Opioid receptors makes it sound like such a unique experience that I'd be interested in.

That's it. I'm getting some within the next couple months.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23590420 - 08/29/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Start low, at 5x preferably. Don't be one of those guys who thinks he can handle drugs and can therefore dive in at 40x. Salvia is not like other drugs. Oh no it isn't :lol:

5x has always treated me kindly. Anything above that can rip me to bits.

Also, silent darkness is your friend. Don't get up, don't walk around, have a trip sitter stop you if necessary.

And remember to take huge deep tokes and count to 20-30 before exhaling. Then repeat quickly. You have time for 3 of those tokes. Lift off happens at exactly 90 seconds after the first toke starts. After liftoff stop toking. Have your tripsitter handle your pipe and lighter.

Dry bongs worked best for me.

Good luck :thumbup:, and plz report back.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Hanz]
    #23590425 - 08/29/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the advice man.

I'll definitely post my first experience. :strokebeard:


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23590592 - 08/29/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Wish I could get ahold of some of this. Not easy in Australia


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Hanz] * 1
    #23590766 - 08/29/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Salvia is like getting into a bad divorce with reality.







:lol: ....I like that, good way to put it .





It's been something like 9 years or so since the last time I smoked salvia, and it was also the first full on "breakthrough" I had with the stuff. After that I didn't have much interest in working with the stuff ever again :lol: .

But in recent times...after more life experience, lots more psychedelic experiences since then, and being able to observe & navigate such experiences a bit better....I definitely have curiosity and interest in dabbling with salvia again, I more so want to work with it taken sublingually/orally, but I'm down to give it a go by smoking it once or twice again just to see what she do :smirk:  .

It was never fun, it was never enjoyable or pleasurable (actually the contrary, usually it was a very dysphoric, uncomfortable, and sometimes frightening experience)...but quite interesting and peculiar stuff for sure.







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That feeling where you're crushed in to a 2-dimensional version of yourself, and time shows itself as the pages of a book flipping passed every millisecond. If lucky, you break through and are rewarded with visuals of entities form the other world. If not, then you're just crushed into oblivion, being sucked backwards into the couch while the room dissolves and nothing makes sense.







Sounds about right :yesnod: :lol:


There's this dude that does art based off the experiences/demeanor of salvia...Your little description totally reminds me of some of his work, as what you described seems to be along the lines of some common themes folks experience from salvia.

First time I saw this dudes work I instantly knew it was depicting salvia even though the place I saw it had no reference or mention of salvia, and it's done pretty accurately...This fella captures the whole ordeal in an image so damn well IMO, quite a feat considering how bizarre, atypical  and how difficult the experience is to convey.















Being smeared into 2 dimensions, weird slicing/cutting/pressing of the body into sections, being rolled up and/or stretched, being pushed through machines & strung through clock/time keeping mechanisms. Facing something/someone at the end of a hallway, going through doors...Zippers, Reality/oneself being completely unzipped, or zipped up into some other reality.

So fucking strange.




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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: openmind]
    #23590885 - 08/29/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That art is sick^^

My only experience with salvia was fucking wild: ripped a a whole bowl of 15x and my view of reality rippled, like someone dropped a pebble into a lake, found myself on the ground and decided to rip another bowl...all I remember from it was these three planet like rock formations with different types of vegetation all orbiting around each other. Came back to feeling like I had downs syndrome for the next 15 minutes.
That was around 8 years ago though, definitely reminiscent of smoked dmt in terms of how powerful it was, but I can still remember the strangeness being of a complete different feel than that of tryptamine psychedelics, or anything else for that matter..


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: openmind]
    #23591320 - 08/29/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think there is a key explanation missing here in these descriptions.  The salvia experience brings you to the reality factory as others have described.  Now how would YOU like it if you were a master craftsman, working on an extremely delicate and intricate project, and some random person comes barging in on your work.  Well of course you would be upset, would probably yell at the person to get out so you can focus, etc.  (Similar to interrupting your father when he's working in his workshop when you were a little kid).  The discomfort you feel in the reality factory is caused by the craftsmen trying to keep you from messing them up.  They want you to appreciate the finished product we have in this dimension, they don't want you to see it as it's made.  But of course we are too curious to listen and go explore anyway.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23591381 - 08/29/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Salvia is the ultimate teacher of existence. It has so much unknown knowledge to give, but it won't just give it to anyone. That's why it's so chaotic and uncomfortable, to scare away anyone who mistreats it. I'd say out of all the different entheogens who are said to have a spirit teacher connected to them, Lady Salvia is the one that demands the most respect and is the cruelest to ones who don't give it in the way that she desires. Which is why Salvia has such a horrible reputation, there are so many people who go about smoking it treating it like a party drug, doing it in a horrible set/setting, and trying to seem hardcore to their friends. This is all just my opinion though.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: UniverseOfTheMind8]
    #23592011 - 08/29/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That art is so fucking accurate for me. Looking at it gives me flashbacks.. it brings back that lingering taste like extra dimensional spirit essence, ectoplasm or something of the likes.. so freakin eerie.. the chopping up and everything.. just wow


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Bomb Diggity]
    #23592129 - 08/30/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Who are all the cartoon characters in the back???


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Bomb Diggity]
    #23592138 - 08/30/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Is that really what Salvia visions are like?

Shit. Looks completely wonky. :eek:

In a good way.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23592483 - 08/30/16 06:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Today I smoked salvia again and i think it is hands down the most interesting substance in nature. Anyone else as fascinated as I am?




Welcome to the club brother! I'm obsessed with Salvia!


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23592501 - 08/30/16 06:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Is that really what Salvia visions are like?

Shit. Looks completely wonky. :eek:

In a good way.




I usually perceive these vision with a sixth sense. I do see them too, but more feel them than see. Sixth sense is the best way to put it.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #23594231 - 08/30/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I was surrounded.  I was sitting on the couch and I was surrounded by eyes seeing back towards me.  the were high towards the ceiling, about the size of a human head and in a circle


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: openmind]
    #23594461 - 08/30/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That feeling where you're crushed in to a 2-dimensional version of yourself, and time shows itself as the pages of a book flipping passed every millisecond. If lucky, you break through and are rewarded with visuals of entities form the other world. If not, then you're just crushed into oblivion, being sucked backwards into the couch while the room dissolves and nothing makes sense.







Sounds about right :yesnod: :lol:


There's this dude that does art based off the experiences/demeanor of salvia...Your little description totally reminds me of some of his work, as what you described seems to be along the lines of some common themes folks experience from salvia.

First time I saw this dudes work I instantly knew it was depicting salvia even though the place I saw it had no reference or mention of salvia, and it's done pretty accurately...This fella captures the whole ordeal in an image so damn well IMO, quite a feat considering how bizarre, atypical  and how difficult the experience is to convey.















Being smeared into 2 dimensions, weird slicing/cutting/pressing of the body into sections, being rolled up and/or stretched, being pushed through machines & strung through clock/time keeping mechanisms. Facing something/someone at the end of a hallway, going through doors...Zippers, Reality/oneself being completely unzipped, or zipped up into some other reality.

So fucking strange.




-OM


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The art is amazing. I can't relate to the colors, but the shapes are very well done.

Notice that in each there is some reference to being pressed in to 2 dimensions, and one even has an actual book with flipping pages. Just like I said it was for me.

I think it's amazing, whatever you believe about transcendental truths and the likes, we can have such similar experiences that descriptions of them are recognizable. Think about it, this seldom happens with normal dreams, or feverish delirium.

But somehow a little plant called Salvia can do it in this special way.


:heart: H.


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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23594563 - 08/30/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That art is so fucking accurate for me. Looking at it gives me flashbacks.. it brings back that lingering taste like extra dimensional spirit essence, ectoplasm or something of the likes.. so freakin eerie.. the chopping up and everything.. just wow






Yup...


Same thing happened to me when I saw first saw it, particularly this one>>>











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Is that really what Salvia visions are like?

Shit. Looks completely wonky. :eek:

In a good way.






It is indeed wonky, and it's not in a good way in my experience :lol:  . The stuff isn't enjoyable in anyway for me, but certainly interesting stuff.


From the handful of times I tried salvia, it was actually never much of a visual or "vision" inducing experience for me at all....at least nothing like the classic serotonergic psychedelics .


Really hard to explain what it's like, I perceive what's happening in a different way then visually seeing it....but that art captures some essence of the experience for sure. Feeling like one is being flattened out or stretched in 2 dimensions, feeling like one is being "pressed" and flattened out and rung through machines, feeling like one is rolling or being rolled up like a rug, sensations like being unzipped & torn apart or zipped up into something else...being ripped, sliced, & chopped apart (not painful, but very pronounced and uncomfortable sensations ). Feeling like one is merging with/becoming random objects that are in the room with them or close by (chairs, walls, TV sets, door handles, the neighbors living room floor, etc...)





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Re: My Thoughts on Salvia [Re: openmind]
    #23594605 - 08/30/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It has also been, at least a few times, incredibly liberating for me. The door to the other world is a magnificent piece of data to possess. And knowing the door is inside of you, that has a permanent effect. I even glimpsed heaven once, where the divine child like entities told me I'd always be welcome.

It was only later that the other trips were much less comfortable....


:heart: H.


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