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InvisibleAsante
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How does this affect you?
    #23574270 - 08/24/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)



How does this affect you?


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: Asante]
    #23574338 - 08/24/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

He really is an excellent speaker. People always say that, but it really doesn't do it justice. His voice is just perfect for speaking, and he knows exactly where to pause, what words to enunciate, how to play words off each other, and then his whole body language just adds to it. The amount of gravitas his voice adds to his words is unreal.


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: Asante]
    #23574344 - 08/24/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You can certainly see why he was such a powerful figure. His public speaking skills are pretty much unmatched even today. Shame he used it to murder millions and start a failed empire, but if you were alive at the time and ethnically German, you'd probably be captivated by his rhetoric as well.


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23574351 - 08/24/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well it is important to mention the effect that the background music might have.

Wouldn't that be funny if Hitler was a public speaking professor?  :lol:


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23574373 - 08/24/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I read he was one of the first people to use massive loudspeaker systems to project his voice to whole towns. They also provided radios to as many families as possible as well, state funded. Probably the best public speaker of the 20th Century.


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: Asante]
    #23574374 - 08/24/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The other interesting part to me is that a lot of what he says in these is just standard political stuff. You kindof forget that the nazis were still politicians at the end of the day.

The stuff about how there are difficult times ahead, the country on the rise/awakening after bad times, it was bad before but things will get better now, but there is hard work ahead, and everyone needs to pitch in, that's all standard political stuff that's used almost universally. The stuff about how instead of the state helping the people, the people should help themselves. All very standard political lines. It's just weird to see even hitler using standard political lines like a regular old politician.


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: Asante]
    #23574377 - 08/24/16 10:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Doesn't really make me feel anything. :shrug: The only thought that I really had is how similar him and MLK were when giving public speeches.


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: Asante]
    #23574426 - 08/24/16 10:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have always found WWII stuff interesting, so find that video interesting.

But whenever I see Hitler ranting on about something, I always wonder how much speed the guy was on, he was quite the speed freak.


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: Lucis]
    #23574536 - 08/24/16 11:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Very socialist. Terrible person.


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23574563 - 08/24/16 11:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

its national socialist. That means that any sense of humanity stops at your arbitrary ethnic border. National socialism is a form of tribalism where your tribe isn't humanity but a subgroup.

Think about it.


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23574570 - 08/24/16 11:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

He also is specifically against having a welfare state, as he says in this video, which is what most Americans associate with socialism.


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: nooneman]
    #23574960 - 08/25/16 03:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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nooneman said:
He also is specifically against having a welfare state, as he says in this video, which is what most Americans associate with socialism.




If, by some historical accident America had adopted German rather than English as its lingua franca -if anyone knows of a good account of why this is, seeing as more Americans seem to claim German ancestry rather than Brittish- there's a good chance that without the language barrier Americans may have been swayed by Hitlers rhetoric as well, and backed Hitler over Churchill.

The outcome of WW2 might have been totaly different, indeed their may not have been a 2nd world war if Americans had backed the Kaiser, though that's far less likely given America's historic aversion to emperors and kings.

It would be interesting, to say the least, to visit that alternate timeline/dimention where German had been the language adopted in America, just to see how it turned out.

Anyone here good at making polls. :wink:
Would the world have been if America had opted for German rather than English.
1. Better.
2. Worse.
3. My kingdom for a STALion.


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: Asante]
    #23574988 - 08/25/16 03:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

As an orator myself, I respect him as an absolute master of the craft.


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: Asante]
    #23574993 - 08/25/16 04:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Considering I'm not a 1930's German citizen? Doesn't affect me at all really.


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: 404]
    #23575007 - 08/25/16 04:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It made me realise I had no desire to pause my music to listen to 10 minutes of some crackpot giving a speech, no matter how good he might be at doing so.


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23575261 - 08/25/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The German people had suffered unnecessarily for years, so Hitler was only saying what they wanted to hear.

People have to understand that you can't push people like German's to the human limit and not expect a major backlash.


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: Asante]
    #23575295 - 08/25/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It doesn't because it's been shoved in our history classes and culture for ages that he was an awful man but a great leader. I learned nothing and experienced no change in emotion from your video.

If I was just learning of his treacherous streak than maybe that would have illicited emotional response.

What are you getting at?


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: qman]
    #23575493 - 08/25/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

qman said:
The German people had suffered unnecessarily for years, so Hitler was only saying what they wanted to hear.

People have to understand that you can't push people like German's to the human limit and not expect a major backlash.




Are the Germans supposed to be special in some way in this?
If any group are pushed beyond "the human limit" they will, if not in a major way, but at least to the extent of their abilities, engage in some sort of backlash.
From each according to their ability...to pay back those that are considered their oppressors...or some such thing.


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: deucedbi9] * 2
    #23575550 - 08/25/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

This makes me want to make Germany great again :smugjerry:


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Re: How does this affect you? [Re: Turtletotem]
    #23575568 - 08/25/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Turtletotem said:
This makes me want to make Germany great again :smugjerry:




It's coming, just wait until a major terrorist attack hits Germany, they're not buying into the "it's just a normal part of life now" narrative that the French politicians have been spewing out.


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