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AuroraBorealis88
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yeah it probably has a lot to do with metabolism but also I think it depends mostly on mindset not the individual because even for the individual it would vary. I'm sure someone with a more "open consciousness" could theoretically trip for significantly longer.
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Re: Shrooms vs Acid [Re: mushpunx]
#23577694 - 08/25/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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[ivv#]mushpunx said: LShiD is 3X as lonh
More like 2X as long
I say the bulk of the real effects minus come up and down is usually about 4 hrs for me 
Well a lot of people get delusions of sobriety while on the mushroom come down because compared to where they were just at a few hours before this is a cake walk. But really your trip is not over it just seems that way because you can finally understand linear time again but you're not fully back to earth yet. I feel most people totally forget what being sober is like while on psilocybin which is why many might think they have "sobered up" when they haven't and I think most people are entirely unaware of this effect.
For me hour 4 is simply when things stop being "mindfucky" and start to smooth out and become more emotional and "clear". The peak is at hour 3 so it really would make no sense to say your trip is over with by hour 4. That's just barley past the halfway mark for the whole experience.
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It also depends on method of ingestion. A lot of times when I drink tea the entire duration including come up and down is about 4 hrs too tho.
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Re: Shrooms vs Acid [Re: mushpunx]
#23577804 - 08/25/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh right I didn't think about tea well I've never had tea and I've never lemon tekked so I really can't comment on those and from what I understand lemon tekk does last shorter so I wouldn't be surprised if tea did as well but I was pretty much just talking about eating raw mushroom.
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Re: Shrooms vs Acid [Re: mushpunx]
#23577811 - 08/25/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tea does have a very short duration. The peak is like 2.5 hours tops for me. The come up and come down is roughly an hour and a half combined. I dont like tea for this reason, I find it lacks the feel that eating it brings with a longer trip. I find its never enough time to really capture the essence of the trip. Tho thats just me, I know people who love tea and refuse to do them any other way.
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Thanks for the advice and the links friend. After doing a little reading I believe shrooms feel right for my first time and after I've immersed myself in the psychedelic experience I'll be ready to have the craziest drawing sesh on lsd
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Thanks all for the advice and thoughts. After a little more research and thinking I've decided on shrooms for my first time. I need a good learning experience from this psychedelic journey and shrooms just seem to be calling out to me. Im going to eat them at the park that I live behind since I'm very comfortable there (I go most days) and I don't want to eat them at home because I feel it's a bad influence on my kid brother. I just wanna lay in the grass with my sketchbook and trip out then walk to my girlfriend's house if I feel capable enough. The walk to my girlfriend's house is awesome due to the many pretty plants and stuff plus it would just be nice to see my girlfriend. She's got a nice backyard and we'll end up smoking a couple bowls I'm sure. Sounds like a pretty decent first trip yeah? But if it doesn't go exactly as planned that's cool too. Imma just do what I do best and go with the flow
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Nice man let us know how it goes 
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Shrooms are MUCH STRONGER than acid. Id start with a hit of acid over an 1/8 of shroms if youre new to the experience. Shrooms are powerful!
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I'd recommend 2 to 2.5 grams btw OP definitely not 3.5 g
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Indeed it depends... Though Id have to agree that L trips seem much easier to manage for first time trippers; mushrooms imo are more "at the whim of the experience" and an eighth of mushrooms can turn on you, FAST, into a frightening experience. Although that being said, I think that mushroom experiences always seem to have much more depth or "magic" in terms of spirituality, personal insights, and the diverse types of information that are presented to you while under their influence in contrast to L. Personally for a first time trip I suggest 1 or 2 full hits of good L or 2g-3g dried cubes: with these you'll be able to a good sense of what the tripping experience is really like without the possibility of being completely overwhelmed (I refer to this as getting "floored", and basically lose the ability of motor control, lay down, and embrace what the experience has to show me). Take into account I typed this assuming you don't want to have a 'bad trip' for your first time, which is completely understandable when delving into uncharted territory! But in all honesty I think that being shown the dark side of the force is crucial for personal growth and all that jazz. Either way you will be fine Just remember to go with the flow, fighting yourself is futile! Anyhoo - I wish unto you positive vibes and safe travels
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Yea that sounds good man. Might want someone you feel comfortable around if its your first time, but if you dose at the lower end (my first trip was around 1.5-2 g and it was the best I've ever had) you will probably be ok.
I sugguest you close your eyes for a bit to experience CEVs too!
I also sugguesr growing them yourself!
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AuroraBorealis88 said: Well LSD was always more introspective and personal for me and mushrooms were much more about exploring and seeing new amazing and captivating things and bringing back knowledge from higher realms, felt more exotic and existential.. In fact mushrooms being less personal is I think one the the reasons it deals more with the question of enlightenment than LSD does because the concept of enlightenment to me isn't a very personal thing. It really has nothing to do with me.
LSD may tell me things about myself personally but mushrooms seem to address humanity as a whole and seem much less pinpointed on me than I or someone else would typically expect. I just always feel mushrooms have bigger and better things to worry about than little old me which is why they feel less personal and seem to deal more with the bigger picture.
You suffer from tunnel vision. And you really should quit saying "bullshit" to everything. It makes it very hard to take you seriously or have any kind of meaningful exchange of information. Unless that is your intent, to stifle the exchange of ideas.
Take it with a grain of salt from a crankey old dude and don't go getting all butthurt.
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AuroraBorealis88 said: Oh right I didn't think about tea well I've never had tea and I've never lemon tekked so I really can't comment on those and from what I understand lemon tekk does last shorter so I wouldn't be surprised if tea did as well but I was pretty much just talking about eating raw mushroom.
So, you're saying your experience is limited but that makes you an expert on the difference anyway.
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Re: Shrooms vs Acid [Re: KenInVic]
#23580145 - 08/26/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I want to eat a 10er of libs again. Its been atleast 12 years since Ive dosed that high on mush... I feel I need to really dive inwards.
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Re: Shrooms vs Acid [Re: KenInVic]
#23580241 - 08/26/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The cranky old dude perspective ins't so esoteric or valuable to me because it is a tainted view and a dated one. You've probably picked up a lot more biases throughout your lifetime than I have and it is constantly showing. When I read your posts I don't see an individual and I certainly never see anyone happy. Stop taking life so seriously, your demeanor is really becoming a drag. It isn't too late to stop that negative pattern and you can be stubborn about it and pretend like I'm the silly one here that's fine because I totally understand.
Now Mr. Sense of self I never claimed to be an expert of any such when it came to the differences between tea and other methods. I even corrected myself by saying "oh I didn't think about tea" so thanks so butting into this conversation anyways. I was talking about eating raw mushroom so again thanks for your late correction. Your input isn't really useful at this point but at least you tried.
I'm not triggered by your divisive approach just to let you know. It really does nothing for me, it doesn't fire me up like you probably think it does. Try a different method.
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SonicTitan said: I want to eat a 10er of libs again. Its been atleast 12 years since Ive dosed that high on mush... I feel I need to really dive inwards.
Yikes!
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Re: Shrooms vs Acid [Re: mushpunx]
#23580669 - 08/26/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You should certainly do what you're most comfortable with and it seems you're going to try shrooms first. All good!
I've always felt that you take LSD and shrooms take you. I started with L and was very happy doing it first.
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Re: Shrooms vs Acid [Re: mushpunx]
#23580675 - 08/26/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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SonicTitan said: I want to eat a 10er of libs again. Its been atleast 12 years since Ive dosed that high on mush... I feel I need to really dive inwards.
Yikes!
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SonicTitan said: I want to eat a 10er of libs again. Its been atleast 12 years since Ive dosed that high on mush... I feel I need to really dive inwards.
Hardest I ever hit anything at one time was 12 full panes of window pane acid in the early '70s. I would need some time to prepare for heroic dosing if I were to try again.
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