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OfflineUniverseOfTheMind8
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Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips?
    #23572215 - 08/24/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If you have slipped into an unpleasant trip that you don't think you can pull yourself out of, will a benzo help sort of take away some of the delusional mind fuck and anxiety enough to were you can put yourself back in the right direction? I have heard that benzo's will just completely end the trip for you, but I feel as if it doesn't work like that. Is that correct?


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: UniverseOfTheMind8]
    #23572218 - 08/24/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Some people like to keep a benzo around in case the trip goes south for some reason. I have no experience with benzos tho.


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23572225 - 08/24/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If they actually do help with negative trips than i'll definitely start keeping a few around haha. It'd be very comforting and probably help me actually relax during the come up, which I have a hard time doing most of the time.


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: UniverseOfTheMind8]
    #23572277 - 08/24/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

They basically cancel out the trip. I would be careful about dosing though, I'm not sure how well they interact.


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23572374 - 08/24/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

They interact just fine. I've used benzos on LSD and shroom trips and have still had great times. Bit like drinking a beer before tripping it makes the trip more "recreational" if you're out and about.

Diazepam or Alprazolam work well. Take either like 1 hour before a trip and you'll have a good time. It dulls the trip down a notch but you still get wasted and trip nice.



If you're in the midst of a bad trip then a "full" benzo (not allowed to give dosage advice on benzos here I don't think "rules") will abort a fearful paranoid trip.

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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23572379 - 08/24/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I mean if you are having an absolute terror trip they can help. Taking them is counter productive to tripping and you should just ride out the bad trip and learn from it. It is not a bad idea to keep one on hand just in case, but you should do your best to soldier through the trip without a benzo. So it can help, but isn't something that should be used often. I would say just quit tripping if you aren't enjoying the experience and feel the need for other drugs to cancel out the trip.


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #23572423 - 08/24/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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psilocybinjunkie said:
I mean if you are having an absolute terror trip they can help. Taking them is counter productive to tripping and you should just ride out the bad trip and learn from it. It is not a bad idea to keep one on hand just in case, but you should do your best to soldier through the trip without a benzo. So it can help, but isn't something that should be used often. I would say just quit tripping if you aren't enjoying the experience and feel the need for other drugs to cancel out the trip.




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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #23572474 - 08/24/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That's good to hear, yeah I definitely wouldn't take one if it was a trip I felt I could probably just soldier through. I meant complete nightmare trips as you said. I tend to have nightmare trips a decent amount, but I really don't want to stop honestly. I love psych's, and i'd really like to get past whatever  makes me have those sorts of trips and experience the true potential of the beauty, knowledge,  and love I know they can give.


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: YeOlde]
    #23572479 - 08/24/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thankyou for the information, I appreciate it.


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: UniverseOfTheMind8]
    #23572583 - 08/24/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Benzos effectively end the trip.


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: JesusDaMartian]
    #23572606 - 08/24/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think to end your trip you need anti psychotics, not just a benZo. But just take less if you're scared lol. Right?


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: Tuhdoww]
    #23573052 - 08/24/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Tbh sometimes I like ending the trip at around the 8-9 hour mark if I've had a heavy dose of acid with a xanax. Going the full 12 hours can be an ordeal sometimes. I've never really liked stimulants and the stimulating factor of acid can be a lot to endure.

Probably a sign that I'm tripping way too much lol


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: YeOlde]
    #23573431 - 08/24/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I take them for panic attacks, and they definitely help in a bad trip. Like others have said, they're counter productive. Doesn't mean I haven't taken them multiple times, but they help. It "normalizes" the trip for me.

Mushrooms can get really weird for me sometimes, and the alprazalom takes out the intense psychadelics head space, and anxiety. I've come to the realization that it I feel like I have to take  them, perhaps I'm not ready for the trip.

Use them very sparingly, because they will definitely kill the trip, which can be good if absolutely needed.

I had a really intense, panic dmt trip, and took one I'm the middle of it. I know it didn't have any effect from the medicine, but knowing I took one mentally helped me calm down


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: alexmir]
    #23573501 - 08/24/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I don't have any experience with it myself, but I read about a guy who kept benzos in his drawer, but have never used one. He said it helped him get out of bad trips, just by thinking about he got the benzo in case things went south. So it can help you just to feel safe, without even taking it.


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: SvampebobFirkant]
    #23573521 - 08/24/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I keep one bar on hand.
Don't think I'll ever use it


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: Yeshmeister]
    #23573998 - 08/24/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have used Benzos for three bad trips. On LSD I think I remember it killing the trip after about a hour but removing anxiety after about 5 minutes. For the shrooms, when I took it towards the end of a trip it sent me into euphoria and caused the trip to wind down. When I took benzos at the peak of a bad shroom trip it actually made it worse for 30 minutes because they did not immediately take affect and it made me even more scared and I was experiencing moments of eternity and thought it would never work. But once they fully kicked in the rest of my trip was all positive (according to my friends, moderate doses of benzos kill my memory). But even the moderate amount I took did not "kill" the bad shroom trip, just changed my mental state. My friends said I was still having all kinds of epiphanies and was saying how everything was so beautiful.


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: Hardrock3742]
    #23574041 - 08/24/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I liked to have a valium around for the comedown so I could sleep.


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: Othyem]
    #23575607 - 08/25/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

From my personal experience taking a benzo when I dose a couple blotters definitely helps with come up anxiety. I also have never noticed a reduction in the trip from this same batch and comparing same dosage with no benzo at all.

I used to prefer to trip with 2-3 blotters taken with 2mg Xanax and then take another 2mg Xanax on the comedown. I don't take benzos anymore though as I had to kick a nasty habit to them a year ago.


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: dcthestar]
    #23575805 - 08/25/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I dont take pharma stuff, but dosing many people heres my experience from seeing a couple people mix them.

When mixing shrooms with xanax at 6 dried grams and unknown xanax dose my two aquaintances said they felt`still trippy' but had no deep introspection.

To give perspective these where noobs at shrooms and 6grams should have had them wide eyed and probably flopping on the ground laughing rediscovering existance.

So yeah i would say it definitly effects the trip but not in a good way at all. Seems like it stops people from feeling their feelings.

As a grower i would never, ever have any or give any pills out to people i dose under any circumstance.


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Re: Do Benzo's actually help take the edge off of mush trips? [Re: dcthestar]
    #23575814 - 08/25/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, they absolutely can. Having just a bit more experience with bad trips than I'd like to discuss I always keep a bottle of clonazepam on hand. Just the knowledge that I can end it on my terms helps to calm my anxiety. While this chemical takes longer to come on I prefer it due to its long lasting nature. Guaranteed that it wont wear off before the trip is through.


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