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LunarEclipse
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Re: can someone beat the house with skills? [Re: Patlal]
#23849593 - 11/19/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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CLIT said: I know it's rare. I've never been into a casino but was curious if the games in the casinos are "pure luck games" or some do require "skills"? There had to be a strategy to better the odds of winning. I would assume knowing how the games are played would help rather than going in to the casino to simply "gamble" rather than actually execute what needs to be done aka having a strategy of sort.
Casinos aren't like state lotteries, right?
Yes you can if you play poker. I've been beating the house and other players for 6 days in a row now.
Baccarat is the closest to 50/50 you can get.
If you find a 4 deck shoe for blackjack, you can count the cards. 8 decks (standard) is extremely hard to beat, but in the long run, you can do it.
Craps, Pai-gow, Carrabean poker, different forms of blackjack, war, dice, slots, roulette, keno, horse racing, etc... The house wins. Always.
Phil Ivey "won" millions from a couple of casinos, beat them both "fair and square", yet has had to fight for years in the courts and it appears will be screwed by the legal system in the end. Bend over Phil. Very interesting case with Baccarat where he insisted on a particular deck type which led itself to advantage play by edge sorting of his partner for the most part.
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Re: can someone beat the house with skills? [Re: CLIT]
#23856202 - 11/22/16 03:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wonder if those casinos allow online gambling or allow out of staters to be on the draw for their sweepstakes? Some casinos have car giveaways where you buy a $5 ticket and it gets on the raffle. I wish they did this via online so that way anyone can be on the raffle even if out of state. I guess I'd have to check the casino's websites huh?
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Re: can someone beat the house with skills? [Re: Brian Jones]
#23856208 - 11/22/16 03:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is this a casino rule or just your advice?
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Brian Jones said: But as mentioned, if you win in a casino you have to walk away.
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Re: can someone beat the house with skills? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23856216 - 11/22/16 03:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The plaintiff may have cried foul of "cheating" by just the fact the player (Ivey) was "specific" about a deck type. The defendant (Ivey) could defend himself that gambling does require skills. He happen to have it just as some lotto players have a "specific" set of numbers or patterns they play steadily, which ups their chances of more wins than people who simply just buy quickpicks for the "luck of it". You win some, you lose some.
In Boxing, Mayweather gets accused of bobbing and weaving (which boxing is), therefore, people think he's a cheater, just because he has skills not to get hit. He knows the game.
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CLIT said: I know it's rare. I've never been into a casino but was curious if the games in the casinos are "pure luck games" or some do require "skills"? There had to be a strategy to better the odds of winning. I would assume knowing how the games are played would help rather than going in to the casino to simply "gamble" rather than actually execute what needs to be done aka having a strategy of sort.
Casinos aren't like state lotteries, right?
Yes you can if you play poker. I've been beating the house and other players for 6 days in a row now.
Baccarat is the closest to 50/50 you can get.
If you find a 4 deck shoe for blackjack, you can count the cards. 8 decks (standard) is extremely hard to beat, but in the long run, you can do it.
Craps, Pai-gow, Carrabean poker, different forms of blackjack, war, dice, slots, roulette, keno, horse racing, etc... The house wins. Always.
Phil Ivey "won" millions from a couple of casinos, beat them both "fair and square", yet has had to fight for years in the courts and it appears will be screwed by the legal system in the end. Bend over Phil. Very interesting case with Baccarat where he insisted on a particular deck type which led itself to advantage play by edge sorting of his partner for the most part.
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Re: can someone beat the house with skills? [Re: CLIT]
#23883057 - 11/30/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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CLIT said: I know it's rare. I've never been into a casino but was curious if the games in the casinos are "pure luck games" or some do require "skills"? There had to be a strategy to better the odds of winning. I would assume knowing how the games are played would help rather than going in to the casino to simply "gamble" rather than actually execute what needs to be done aka having a strategy of sort.
Casinos aren't like state lotteries, right?
I have friends that game professionally. The house always wins. If lucky, you win a pot, a game and you go do something else. The house always wins because for every victory, there is a graveyard of those gone bust.
I know a guy that bought a house from poker. He is playing to hit a million and call it career. Another hit the million, started several businesses, and continues to play.
Its basically like a lottery. I watched another buddy play 21. He went up a stupid amount of money. The dealer was weak. They replaced the dealer and my buddy started losing. Its a fucked up thing but, changing the deck of cards, even a new dealer or switching tables is a tool to change the dynamic. What I noticed is that, the harder and smarter I work, the luckier I get.
-------------------- The light of wisdom is driving away the darkness. Look at the ground. Now you can see your own shadow. If you are scared by the shadow that follows you, just remember, wherever shadows fall, light is always nearby.
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