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engimatic
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Cross tolerance LSD AND DMT?
#23570735 - 08/23/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Day 1 - smoked changa DMT Day 2 - took one tab of 100ug lsd, felt like there was lsd in my system, little bit brightness too but no visuals no headspace.
acid was underdosed/bunk or because there is cross tolerance between acid and dmt?
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wigglewak



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Re: Cross tolerance LSD AND DMT? [Re: engimatic]
#23570768 - 08/23/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It shouldn't be noticeable, maybe try them out next week.
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bigbitch
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Re: Cross tolerance LSD AND DMT? [Re: wigglewak]
#23571209 - 08/23/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not really sure how long the tolerance would last. Maybe the lsd was underdosed.
I can't give you a definite answer though. If you had smoked just dmt, it would forsure not be cross tolerant. It doesn't last long enough in your system, for your receptors to downregulate (cause of tolerance). Changa is different, because it causes the dmt to stay in your system longer, because of the MAOI. So your receptors would downregulate somewhat.
I just do not know enough to tell you how long until they upregulate, and your tolerance is gone, from smoking changa. My best advice is to stop smoking changa for awhile and try the same tabs again, if you want to see if they are bunk.
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Re: Cross tolerance LSD AND DMT? [Re: bigbitch]
#23571390 - 08/24/16 12:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shoulda smoked the dmt while on the lsd lol
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Sabnock
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Re: Cross tolerance LSD AND DMT? [Re: bigbitch]
#23571395 - 08/24/16 12:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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bigbitch said:Changa is different, because it causes the dmt to stay in your system longer, because of the MAOI. So your receptors would downregulate somewhat.
Actually that's not true, DMT with Harmalas does not build up a tolerance and receptors do not seem to downregulate. I've taken Aya many times regularly, even daily, and never noticed a tolerance, also have smoked Changa and never noticed a tolerance. The only time i noticed a tolerance to DMT, was the day after i took LSD, which was due to LSD downregulating receptors.
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Re: Cross tolerance LSD AND DMT? [Re: Sabnock]
#23571955 - 08/24/16 06:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hmm, I can't disagree! You have personal experience with the stuff, and I don't. I'm not well versed in the changa and aya yet. I was just attempting to take a scientific approach to it, but if you notice no tolerance to lsd the day after aya, then there is none! I wasn't sure how big the effect would be, but I would imagine dmt and a maoi, would downregulate the receptors somewhat.
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Re: Cross tolerance LSD AND DMT? [Re: bigbitch]
#23572138 - 08/24/16 08:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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None whatsoever
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Sabnock
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Re: Cross tolerance LSD AND DMT? [Re: bigbitch]
#23572661 - 08/24/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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bigbitch said:I wasn't sure how big the effect would be, but I would imagine dmt and a maoi, would downregulate the receptors somewhat.
Ime, the only thing that develops a tolerance would be the Harmalas, and it's a reverse tolerance so the more you take the Harmalas the stronger they get, plus the negative/undesirable side-effects go away (like the nausea/vomiting/diarrhea and rough/sickly body load), allowing you to handle stronger dosages better. With the reverse tolerance, Harmalas feel quite clean on the body, even in incredibly strong dosages apparently. But maybe there's a bit of downregulation involved there, maybe as Rue's reverse tolerance builds up, the side-effects going away is due to some sort of receptor desensitization, but for sure it's MAO-A inhibition does not seem to have a tolerance. DMT definitely has no tolerance, some people say that it has a very short tolerance when smoked/vaped but can be smoked again about an hour later or so, but with Harmalas in the mix, smoked DMT definitely doesn't have a tolerance.
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Re: Cross tolerance LSD AND DMT? [Re: Sabnock]
#23572830 - 08/24/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, there shouldn't be any tolerance.
I've smoked changa multiple days in a row... No tolerance... Tripped on shrooms in the same week... No noticeable tolerance.
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