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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: Universe]
    #23572473 - 08/24/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Nice Universe. I can understand that temptation. My son is 10 so I've got some time before having to deal with any of that but your attitude reminds me of how my parents were. My dad told me when I was 16 that I was old enough to drink when I was comfortable enough to fix myself a drink, and drink it, in front of them. It didn't happen until I was 17 (almost 18) and started doing roofing. Came home after a grueling day and fixed myself a rum and coke to have with dinner.


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23573092 - 08/24/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Whoa whoa whoa first off 3 grams? That may be a bit much man.




Hell nah. They need to hit the full 1/8.

Guarantee they are not gonna have a bad time.


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: Yeshmeister]
    #23573158 - 08/24/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Why do you say that? I had ego death when I ate an eighth my first time and I'm pretty sure most people can't handle that.

You guys must get weak boomers


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23573356 - 08/24/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Because like Tmethyl said they are adults and at 50 have lived a good portion of life already.
This could be a one time thing for them so they have to go big or go home to make sure to get a full and long experience.
If they are chill rents then they're 100 straight for that dose.


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: Yeshmeister]
    #23573438 - 08/24/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You're absolutely insane. The older you get the less likely you are to be able to handle these things.

Someone who's in their 20s can typically handle ego death a lot easier than some 50 or 60 year old who's never tripped. Just because someone is older does not mean they can withstand more intense experiences that is such ridiculous logic.

The more developed and complex your mind becomes the more complex the trip will be. You have totally backwards thinking.

For example me and most people I know could handle tripping way easier in our teens than when we were in our 20s. It's way easier to take tons of drugs when you're young.


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23573474 - 08/24/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ehhh maybe. Maybe not.
I've dosed 30+ times upwards to 10g and don't think I have truly experienced ego death. Or maybe I have. Who knows. So I really can't put my 2c on that.
Still hold what I said though.


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23573476 - 08/24/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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For example me and most people I know could handle tripping way easier in our teens than when we were in our 20s. It's way easier to take tons of drugs when you're young.




I completely disagree with this. I'm 46 and have taken some pretty heroic doses of L over the last 5 years and had a stellar run with DMT. I am more comfortable now with myself and with my life and enjoy tripping now more than I ever did in my 20's


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: Psychedelic Pupil]
    #23573483 - 08/24/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That's because you've tripped before..


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23573502 - 08/24/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Everybody's different. I'm 26 and tripped for the first time at the beginning of last year and I have yet to have a bad experience


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: Yeshmeister]
    #23573508 - 08/24/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

My first trip was an eighth and was completely chill


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23573519 - 08/24/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I suppose that's possible. I do also have an older friend who had never done anything but smoke pot until he was almost 50. Then tried mushrooms, mdma and lsd. Not all at the same time, but over a few months. He thoroughly enjoyed himself and can now, at times, out-pace me.

I would say it probably has more to do with someones personality and mindset.

I have other friends who tripped happily for years then stopped when they got older saying they just couldn't handle it anymore.


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: Yeshmeister]
    #23573527 - 08/24/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Everybody's different. I'm 26 and tripped for the first time at the beginning of last year and I have yet to have a bad experience




Okay.....?  That literally means nothing.


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: Psychedelic Pupil]
    #23573534 - 08/24/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I would say it probably has more to do with someones personality and mindset.



Agreed. Age has nothing to do with it


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: Yeshmeister]
    #23573554 - 08/24/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for all the input everyone. Much appreciated. I am way more comfortable with the idea now. I will let you all know how it goes.
Not sure when it will go down but possibly very soon.

I have figured that 5 or 6 grams in a tea shared between the two of them may be the best method. After some research of course because I can only speak from personal experience.

Personally, most, if not all, of my bad trips were the result of me not being fully comfortable in my own skin in some way shape or form. I feel like highschool would have been the worst time ever to trip Aurora.


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23573806 - 08/24/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I feel like highschool would have been the worst time ever to trip Aurora.




No that's actually when tripping is the funnest because you have absolutely no worries in the world. That's why teens do dumb things because they have nothing better to do and have no real regrets yet.


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23574847 - 08/25/16 01:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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1.5-2g Max if they REALLY want to try it.
Find some good resources, yt videos, documentaries, science articles if they're into heavier reading. Let them make the decision, if they REALLY want to try it without you pressuring them or anything then let them do it.

I'd even guide them through it personally if they wanted if I was you. Not in an impeding way just kinda "trip sit",that is if it goes down.

As long as they don't have any breathing/heart/mental problems they'll be fine.




Yeah they really want to try it. Well my mom does for sure. She always asks me about my trips and spiritual journeys. And I let her know its not just a cake walk. She meditates a lot as well so I think she can handle it. She asks my dad if he wants to and he says sure. He doesnt seem as crazy about it.

I dont know how I feel about trip sitting though. I would rather just have them know that they could call me and im there if they need me but I dont want to muddy up a trip between the two of them. I know etimes when I trip woth my girlfriend and me and her just want to be alone sometimes its hard to drop the hint... idk theyll prolly be fine I guess. They are both healthy and mentally stable.





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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: reppc] * 1
    #23574917 - 08/25/16 02:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Heres a youtube video where someone gave his mom shrooms and recorded it



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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23574924 - 08/25/16 02:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Terence McKenna them. 5 g's silent darkness


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23575211 - 08/25/16 07:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You're absolutely insane. The older you get the less likely you are to be able to handle these things.

Someone who's in their 20s can typically handle ego death a lot easier than some 50 or 60 year old who's never tripped. Just because someone is older does not mean they can withstand more intense experiences that is such ridiculous logic.

The more developed and complex your mind becomes the more complex the trip will be. You have totally backwards thinking.

For example me and most people I know could handle tripping way easier in our teens than when we were in our 20s. It's way easier to take tons of drugs when you're young.




All true.

Here's the difference between tripping young versus tripping older, based on my experience.

When you're young (teens-20's) you're still like a clean slate. You're still discovering things all the time. Tripping is similar to going to an amusement park or sitting your room playing with toys. You have little to no emotional baggage. The daredevil inside you enjoys the ride and you come out of it with a sense of fascination.

When you're older, you accumulate experiences and this builds up confidence which can also be thought of as a thicker ego. By the time you're in your 50's, you've dealt with a lot of serious shit that you couldn't imagine 30 years earlier. If you're tripping for the first time, this could be a problem.

Emotional baggage can be a real problem for middle aged and older people, especially if they're tripping for the first time. Regrets having to do with family and work, concerns about the future, memories of traumatic things can make a trip very difficult. Just imagine - Mom and Dad trip hard and start to think about bad shit - His job is going oversees and he may wind up out of work, the mortgage is late, that pain in his chest and that surgery he had ten years ago to fix it.. Mom starts to think about her dying parents, the miscarriage from 20 years ago, her resentment of  the time Dad cheated, and the guilt over the on-going extramarital cyber romance she's having with her high school sweetheart.

Shit could get ugly... Start your parents off on low doses just like everyone else should do.


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Re: My parents want to try mushrooms. What do? [Re: Universe]
    #23575305 - 08/25/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Just imagine - Mom and Dad trip hard and start to think about bad shit - His job is going oversees and he may wind up out of work, the mortgage is late, that pain in his chest and that surgery he had ten years ago to fix it.. Mom starts to think about her dying parents, the miscarriage from 20 years ago, her resentment of  the time Dad cheated, and the guilt over the on-going extramarital cyber romance she's having with her high school sweetheart.

Shit could get ugly... Start your parents off on low doses just like everyone else should do.




If it weren't so cruel this would actually sound pretty funny. I'm afraid it's plenty realistic though...

And I agree from personal experience also. I'm in my 40s now and am more quickly overwhelmed in trips than I used to be in my 20s. I wish it weren't so, but what can you do about it... forcing it with high doses is not the way to go.

On the other hand.. if the parents only intend to trip once, a single time, it would be a shame to have them underdose and be stuck at a +1. Especially since after that they might convince themselves that they actually tripped while all they did was sit in the rocket on a night it never took off. But if they're open for multiple sessions, which would be best anyway, then plz do start low.

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