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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23580222 - 08/26/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, 3 seperate occasions you specifically and blatantly claimed I made the claim the penis is a sexual organ only.  I corrected you 3 times.  And now on the 3rd time you address it...only to be a coward about it. 

I did not insinuate or imply such a notion.  It was simply a tried and true Akira tactic of creating an arguement from nothing to try and build an opposition.  Logical fallacies for the win Akira :cheers:


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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: Masked]
    #23580245 - 08/26/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i didn't claim any such thing. you took my words to mean something that wasn't specified. i said:
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akira_akuma said:
i know right? fuck nature. let's attribute gender norms to sexual organs! right? also let's discuss how trans people going into bathrooms increases the risk of pedophilia, and how sexual organs being rampant in bathrooms are a danger to the health of children. :smirk: should we bring up all the retarded arguments for and against evaluating gender norms? huh?




i never claimed "you" anything. i had a discussion with someone who argued, much along the same lines as what is argued here, that because trans people with dicks can go in the women's bathroom that increases the likelihood that his kid will be molested, because he thought that dicks were automatically sexualized, and that just by being around his son, those trans with dicks will sexualize his kid.

that was a literal argument i had with some moron, and i drew a reference from it. sorry that you couldn't comprehend that.

PS: none of my comments have been fallacious, that is, unless you can show it. not that that invalidates what i'm saying, though it would sure help validate what you're accusing me of.


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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23580266 - 08/26/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Or should you maybe be sorry for inferring and assuming I feel that way and claiming it not once, but a multitude of times?

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why in the hell is your daughter in any danger by someone in another stall using their penis?





I didn't say this.  Nor do I believe this.  I said it may give easier access to predators

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no one using their penis to piss is being sexual.





No one here claimed it is. And neither did I

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you're worried about penises in public bathrooms





See how tiring and repetitive this is getting for me?  Again, I don't think this nor did I say it or imply it.  I repeat...this is classic Akira logical fallacy playtime.  Trying to build an opposition by creating an argument or fabrication.

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i never claimed "you" anything





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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: Masked]
    #23580272 - 08/26/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Or should you maybe be sorry for inferring and assuming I feel that way and claiming it not once, but a multitude of times?




i never did. i brought it up as a general proclivity that people have a tendency towards, and i brought it up to make a point: the point being that you fears for your daughter's sake, in this instance, is unfounded, the instance being quoted down below, for clarification.
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Let's talk about how people are trying to make me feel guilty for not wanting predators having even easier access to my young daughter and me not comfortable with making it easier. 




^ predators? where? oh, you mean the dick having trans people?

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I didn't say this.  Nor do I believe this.  I said it may give easier access to predators




directly correlative. you fear it'll be easier for predators? how is it easier for predators? explain. explain how a trans person with a dick, in the woman's bathroom, is giving easier access to predators.


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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23580274 - 08/26/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
the penis, by fiat, is a sexual organ. it's not.




:whatwhatwhat:

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it's just an organ that's used for sexuality.




Oh, I see. More semantic games.

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it also is a disposal unit too. does that say something about nature?




:whatwhatwhat:


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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23580283 - 08/26/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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oh, you mean the dick having trans people?





Nope not necessarily.  Did I say trans with dicks are predators?

I've already clearly shown where you made direct accusations and fabrications.

If you can't see this, you are more hopeless and pathetic than I suspected


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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #23580284 - 08/26/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

semantic games? no. just reasoning. the penis is not a sexual organ by fiat. it isn't declared sexual just "because". you have to have sex with it, in order for anything involving it, to be sexual or procreative.

get...with...it.

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Masked said:
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Nope, not necessarily





I've already clearly shown where you made direct accusations and fabrications.

If you can't see this, you are more hopeless and pathetic than I suspected



i'm hopeless and pathetic because we have a disagreement or because you can't understand how to differentiate yourself from another in a person's comment, and you're butthurt that you couldn't? i don't understand why, but have at it.

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Nope not necessarily.  Did I say trans with dicks are predators?



directly correlative. you fear it'll be easier for predators? how is it easier for predators? explain. explain how a trans person with a dick, in the woman's bathroom, is giving easier access to predators.


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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: akira_akuma] * 2
    #23580301 - 08/26/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Bro wtf. The penis is the male sexual organ because it is the means by which males deliver semen via sexual activity. Fiat has nothing to do with it. A lifelong virgin's penis is still a sexual organ. What an asinine and pointless argument. Christ man.


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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23580303 - 08/26/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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i'm hopeless and pathetic because we have an disagreement...





Nope.  You are pathetic and hopeless because I clearly spelled out with quotes how you deliberately fabricated opinions for me, to argue against them...


https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23580266#23580266

...and you claim not to see this behaviour


That's why you are pathetic and hopeless


What masked really thinks about "bathrooms" :lol:

"the record, the bathroom thing was brought up by you and not a huge thing on my radar of thoughts.  I'm from a small town and many places you go here has one "community" bathroom, one at a time, style.  Men and women and trans and teapots all sharing the same small bathroom.  :shrug:  I don't care too much about it, on a larger scale(bigger bathroom, multiple people).  I mean, I still worry about my daughter, but predators will always find a way.  hopefully I've taught her how to watch out for herself.

I do enjoy rustling your jimmies tho lol"


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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23580313 - 08/26/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

here are my comments in reference to you specifically, Masked, you blind individual.
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you said you don't want to worry about your daughter being in danger in a public washroom.




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my point in bringing up said argument is because you people are literally insinuating that the penis, by fiat, is a sexual organ. it's not.




by 'you people' i mean the people who are insinuating that a trans person with a dick is increasing the likelihood of predators striking in public washrooms, by said person simply having a penis. :shrug:

elsewise, what can it be because of? the fact that they call themselves transexual, their gender specificity can't be it, can it? no. it has to be because they bring sexuality into the equation...by having people with a penis in the woman's washroom, people (including you, by and from your insinuations) are afraid there will be more predators to molest their children. that's the argument. it's a fucking ludicrous one. if that wasn't your argument, that specify what your argument is then.


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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23580321 - 08/26/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Some possible genders:

or "Unicorn" (This ones for TheMovement)


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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: Masked]
    #23580325 - 08/26/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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i'm hopeless and pathetic because we have an disagreement...





Nope.  You are pathetic and hopeless because I clearly spelled out with quotes how you deliberately fabricated opinions for me, to argue against them...




rustling? laughable. you're only circling the drain.

and no, you didn't. i fabricated nothing. i made a general comment and made no query of you. in fact, i was querying Eminence here https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23579980#23579980 and explained the reasoning for my posting in the general fashion that i did. just because you are blind and or too daft to understand this means nothing to me.

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i see nothing wrong with transgendered bathrooms, but that's besides the point. you realize people have made the argument that a penis is sexual by fiat (ie, even just whipping it out to piss, is sexual)?

people have literally made that argument. that because trans people are gonna go into the bathroom and have a penis is endangering their child.

and people have been dealing with cross-dressing pedophiles sneaking into bathrooms for quite awhile now, much longer than this issue has been in the public discussion, in recent years.





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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23580328 - 08/26/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23580331 - 08/26/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I already quoted the ones where you said "you" specifically.  Stop trying to dance around your slimy and questionable debate behaviour

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you're worried about penises in public bathrooms





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i never claimed "you" anything





...

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Here are my comments in reference to "you" specifically...





:orly:


:lol:


Sigh...Akira.  You are something else


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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #23580339 - 08/26/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Bro wtf. The penis is the male sexual organ because it is the means by which males deliver semen via sexual activity. Fiat has nothing to do with it. A lifelong virgin's penis is still a sexual organ. What an asinine and pointless argument. Christ man.



it's a sexual organ but not by fiat, not ex nihilo. it's sexual when it is delivering the sperm (and pleasure) but it is not sexual when it is dispensing of urine. urine is not a sexual function. thus, the penis is both a sexual organ and a non-sexualized organ, at once.

unless you want to argue that our propensity, in nature, is so great, to procreate, that the entire human body is a manifold sexual organ meant to deliver sperm to it's mate, as a matter of evolutionary pretence.

then go right ahead.


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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: Masked]
    #23580344 - 08/26/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Masked said:
I already quoted the ones where you said "you" specifically.  Stop trying to dance around your slimy and questionable debate behaviour

Quote:


you're worried about penises in public bathrooms






:orly:


:lol:


Sigh...Akira.  You are something else




*sigh* this is what i get for joking with you. yeah, by penises, i meant predators. you're afraid of predators, for your daughter's sake. you're literally afraid of the consequences of opening up public bathrooms to trans people with DICKS, because you're afraid for your daughter. please, explain how this is different from what i've said.

to note: this was a general comment, addressed as a joke, but bringing in a real element to the cause for alarm in people who fear that trans people whom look like whomever, whom have dicks, going into woman's washrooms, brings about more risk of predators.


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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23580370 - 08/26/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Oh now your joking all this time.  That's cute :smirk:

Misquoting me again I see


I said, opening up the bathrooms to all genders creates more and easier access for predators to my daughter(or son) in the bathroom.  More traffic, all genders, more people = statistical increase of a twisted Fuck getting to my kids

I did not say trans people with dicks makes me afraid for my daughter.


Nice try


Are you joking this time too? :rolleyes:


*akira posts his joke, masked responds in similar jest fashion...Akira falls off deep end with very next post:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23579939#23579939

...claims dozens of posts, dozens of logical fallacies and fabrications later "I was joking*

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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: akira_akuma] * 2
    #23580373 - 08/26/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Interestingly, if we're going by statistics, transgendered people have more to fear from OP's daughter than the other way around. But what I'm really wondering is where's the outrage about priests in public bathrooms? This is clearly the more pressing concern for anyone with young children.


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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23580376 - 08/26/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Lol dude, come on. You saying fiat and ex nihilo isn't impressing anyone. Saying the penis is a sexual organ but not by fiat or ex nihilo doesn't mean anything. The penis is a sexual organ precisely because of its sexual function. It's other functions have no bearing on its sexual function.

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unless you want to argue that our propensity, in nature, is so great, to procreate, that the entire human body is a manifold sexual organ meant to deliver sperm to it's mate, as a matter of evolutionary pretence.

then go right ahead.




Nah, my arguments aren't pointless and convoluted. My name isn't akira_akuma.


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Re: Neutral Gender option for The Shroomery - Times are a changin' [Re: Masked]
    #23580377 - 08/26/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i was joking, you can see from the link. :yesnod: i made the first joke, about medications, then you hopped on, and we played. then as i said, i injected a bit of realism, afterwards. what is it about words that is so difficult for you?

it's all explained above. i'm going now.

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I said, opening up the bathrooms to all genders creates more and easier access for predators to my daughter(or son) in the bathroom.  More traffic, all genders, more people = statistical increase of a twisted Fuck getting to my kids




well, you're wrong. so oops. PS: i still never referred to you whilst making the comment i had made about what i had said i discussed with someone else, elsewhere. you're still wrong about that, too.

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I did not say trans people with dicks makes me afraid for my daughter.




no just that trans people with dicks being given more access to public washrooms are making you more afraid for your daughter.


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