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Need help with two color bolete ID
    #23569496 - 08/23/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)




I was cutting the grass in my back yard a little while earlier and came across first one of these boletes and then started looking around and found a few more of various sizes and ages.  I have never seen these in my yard so naturally, being an amateur mycologist, I wanted to find out what they are.

I think I created a good ecology for myc to grow in when I cut the grass last week.  You see,  I missed a week so the grass was very tall and I rode over it many times so that there wouldn't be big long dead brown grass everywhere.  Instead the small pieces fell between the grass and created a pretty thick brown mat underneath.

Even before I saw these I saw that mat of grass clippings and thought it would be good for an outdoor grow.  So I actually took a large, moist, dense handful into the house and put it into a Tupperware container.  I then added some of the run off water from a mini cube colony.  I also smashed some colonized grains into it and it's slowly colonizing in my fridge.

Anyway, back to the boletes, they were at the bottom of a hill that keeps that part of the yard more moist.  They were all also in the shade of my neighbors oak tree which overhangs that area.

As you can see in the pics dark red cap, yellow pores, mostly red and straight stem with yellow close to the cap, ridges on the stem to cap.

With rough handling they bruise blue, but not immediately.  One seemed older, or possibly just damaged that really had a blue side.  I took a pic of the napkin where it was and you can see it turned that part of the napkin blue.  Also they all left yellow marks on the napkin.

With a magnifying glass the pileipellis appears trichoderm.  The smell is mostly a generic mushroom smell.  The little one smells a lot like a cube.  I just looked at the pics and the actual mushrooms are a bit brighter.  Not a whole lot though.

Oh I almost forgot, I tried to do the ammonia test, but I don't know how well I actually performed it.  The only ammonia I have on hand is in Windex.  I sprayed just a drop on one cap and it didn't change color, however it did seem to bubble a bit.

The find was in Kentucky.

Does anyone have a definitive answer for this?  I've seen several in my own research which they could be.

Thanks for the assistance!!


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Re: Need help with two color bolete ID [Re: OldSawbonesHisself]
    #23569507 - 08/23/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Actually I think that the color brightness difference was my phone.  I turned up the brightness and it looks right.

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Re: Need help with two color bolete ID [Re: OldSawbonesHisself]
    #23570367 - 08/23/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The mowing is possibly not key, it associates with the oak roots (but if it seems to work fair enough). It looks like Xerocomellus chrysenteron which is pretty globally distributed, or may be a close relative.


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Re: Need help with two color bolete ID [Re: Joie]
    #23570473 - 08/23/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Really?  Because I was thinking that it looks much more like Boletus sensibilis or Boletus pseudosensibilis due to the very strong resemblance to the mushrooms that I found.  The one that you suggested had a blotchy cap in all of the photos and these are all more like red velvet.

I've seen one site saying that those two are often confused with Boletus Bicolor, however I don't see why bc bicolor does not have a straight stem.  It has the typical bolete stem, which does not match my mushrooms nor the sensibilis (or pseudo for that matter).

All are associated with oak trees, that is why I came to the ID forum in the first place.

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Re: Need help with two color bolete ID [Re: OldSawbonesHisself]
    #23570901 - 08/23/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The pores here are irregular, more like mushrooms that have been placed in Xerocomus and Xerocomellus.


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Re: Need help with two color bolete ID [Re: Joie]
    #23769188 - 10/25/16 07:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry I'm late, but thank you for the info!!

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